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    Quote Originally Posted by HWB View Post
    Heavier than "Letting You" and "Burning Bright"? Dayum.
    Heavy in an “old NIN” style. Yes.

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    I can't fucking wait to hear Ahead of Ourselves based on the descriptions and reactions. Hope the next 33 days go by fast!

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    Dying to hear this track. Seems like everyone is saying it's great from the first listen alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thefragile_jake View Post
    I think so? If I recall correctly, wasn't that accidentally uploaded to YouTube as a public video as opposed to private? Even if so, that was still the day prior.
    No it never was exactly public

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quantum550 View Post
    That's my thought too.
    You can consult every source out that this duration is of an EP.
    An album would be 7 tracks at minimum and over 30 minutes.
    Fucking hate music industry sometimes.
    Per the RIAA website's definition of an EP: "Must include at least three but no more than five different songs."
    Per iTunes (you know, the people Trent actually works for) the regulations of what constitutes an EP: "The release has a total of four to six (4-6) tracks and the entire release is less than 30 minutes."

    Bad Witch is six tracks and over 30 minutes long. By every conceivable definition, it is (barely) not an EP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quantum550 View Post
    The EP must have delayed for obvious reasons..
    It's almost certainly been deliberately delayed to release of the vinyl along with the digital version. That wasn't the case with NTAE or AV
    both of which had physical components + long delay of vinyl. In this case the physical component seems to be the vinyl.
    Vinyl production delays are approx 3 months so assuming that we are about 1 month off vinyl being ready, they likely had this ready to go
    in early March 2018.
    Last edited by afors; 05-21-2018 at 02:42 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GentlemanLoser View Post


    Per the RIAA website's definition of an EP: "Must include at least three but no more than five different songs."
    Per iTunes (you know, the people Trent actually works for) the regulations of what constitutes an EP: "The release has a total of four to six (4-6) tracks and the entire release is less than 30 minutes."

    Bad Witch is six tracks and over 30 minutes long. By every conceivable definition, it is (barely) not an EP.
    Yeah, but it's an EP, though, so

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quantum550 View Post
    That's my thought too.
    I wonder why the "representative" of NIN is even in the music business to issue a statement like that?
    I know very well how an album length is and a EP length is. This is an EP.
    You can consult every source out that this duration is of an EP.
    An album would be 7 tracks at minimum and over 30 minutes.
    Fucking hate music industry sometimes.

    From what I've heard until now, Add Violence ranks #1 to my taste and NTAE ranks #2. This will probably rank a low #3.
    The EP must have delayed for obvious reasons... (all apologies, etc) but the real fact is lack of inspiration.
    That is the truth I think.

    After AV I was expecting something really bombastic...
    I think I would have to disagree with every single sentence here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quantum550 View Post
    That's my thought too.
    I wonder why the "representative" of NIN is even in the music business to issue a statement like that?
    I know very well how an album length is and a EP length is. This is an EP.
    You can consult every source out that this duration is of an EP.
    An album would be 7 tracks at minimum and over 30 minutes.
    Fucking hate music industry sometimes.

    From what I've heard until now, Add Violence ranks #1 to my taste and NTAE ranks #2. This will probably rank a low #3.
    The EP must have delayed for obvious reasons... (all apologies, etc) but the real fact is lack of inspiration.
    That is the truth I think.

    After AV I was expecting something really bombastic...
    I understand its a short album, but really can't you take the LP clarification as purely an artistic decision? He doesn't need any reason to call it whatever he wants (go take a look at some of Autechre's EPs).
    And you're ranking it already on the basis of one song? Such an angry post for something so innocuous haha

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    Ya'll spending too much time arguing about EP and LP.
    An album is what an artist/band says it is, end of story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle View Post
    I think I would have to disagree with every single sentence here
    "Fucking hate music industry sometimes"

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    Perhaps some of you remember The Mars Volta - Frances the Mute which although has a running time of 77 minutes, contains 5 songs. Studio disputes over EP/LP forced a song to be split into 8 CD tracks as a result.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fillow View Post
    Ya'll spending too much time arguing about EP and LP.
    An album is what an artist/band says it is, end of story.
    Seriously, what is the point of all this? I get the discussions before we knew the track lengths, because specifically clarifying it as an album indicated it might be a surprisingly long six track release, but now that we have track length info, who gives a shit whether it’s an EP or LP? It’s just Bad Witch plain and simple, people!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toadflax View Post
    Seriously, what is the point of all this? I get the discussions before we knew the track lengths, because specifically clarifying it as an album indicated it might be a surprisingly long six track release, but now that we have track length info, who gives a shit whether it’s an EP or LP? It’s just Bad Witch plain and simple, people!
    People will always find a reason to complain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quantum550 View Post
    That's my thought too.
    I wonder why the "representative" of NIN is even in the music business to issue a statement like that?
    I know very well how an album length is and a EP length is. This is an EP.
    You can consult every source out that this duration is of an EP.
    An album would be 7 tracks at minimum and over 30 minutes.
    Fucking hate music industry sometimes.

    From what I've heard until now, Add Violence ranks #1 to my taste and NTAE ranks #2. This will probably rank a low #3.
    The EP must have delayed for obvious reasons... (all apologies, etc) but the real fact is lack of inspiration.
    That is the truth I think.

    After AV I was expecting something really bombastic...
    Worst ETS post ever? Possibly.

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    Maybe it isn’t an EP or an album at all and is really just an edible arrangement or a temporary tattoo and the friends we made along the way

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    Quote Originally Posted by kleiner352 View Post
    Maybe it isn’t an EP or an album at all and is really just an edible arrangement or a temporary tattoo and the friends we made along the way
    The "Bad Witch" LP in the store is actually just a physical component and the physical component is ... an actual witch. A bad witch.

    Not bad for $20.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kleiner352 View Post
    Maybe it isn’t an EP or an album at all and is really just an edible arrangement or a temporary tattoo and the friends we made along the way
    I'm with you. Guys...WE...are the Bad Witch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wretchedest View Post
    Yeah, but it's an EP, though, so
    Except...it isn’t...

    Because:
    A. Everything I just said
    B. Everything Trent has said
    C. Everything the representative said

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    Quote Originally Posted by GentlemanLoser View Post
    Except...it isn’t...

    Because:
    A. Everything I just said
    B. Everything Trent has said
    C. Everything the representative said
    plz stop, it's just an album

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    How about calling it a Double-Deluxe Extended Single (with bonus tracks)?

    Whatever it is, after hearing the unreleased Bad Witch tracks at the Denver Coliseum yesterday, I'm extra excited to buy it!

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    Jesus Christ, if one just says that it's the upcoming record​ then the arguing finishes. NIN fans, man....

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    Can we all just appreciate the fact that we're getting a new collection of songs by our favourite band, the third in a year and a half, and the fifth major NIN release since Wave Goodbye? (not to mention HTDA and the soundtracks) Oh, and they're touring, too.

    I for one am happy that TR is being this prolific. It may not happen forever. Enjoy it while it lasts rather than bickering over pointless technicalities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by katara View Post
    I for one am happy that TR is being this prolific. It may not happen forever. Enjoy it while it lasts rather than bickering over pointless technicalities.
    Yeah - for me there were hints of a creative renewal with HM and Welcome Oblivion, and then these EPs (including the three songs I've heard from Bad Witch) are mostly some of the best work they've done in almost two decades. I will miss them in what is likely to be a semi-extended absence after Bad Witch, if the past is anything to go on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GentlemanLoser View Post
    Except...it isn’t...

    Because:
    A. Everything I just said
    B. Everything Trent has said
    C. Everything the representative said
    Fellow niners! would all of us just enjoy the moment? Lets enjoy the record (see, i didn't say neither EP nor album) when it comes out. If you haven't ordered it yet, please do so either at the NIN store or at Amazon. If you don't know where, here are the links:

    US
    LP https://www.amazon.com/Bad-Witch-Nin.../dp/B07CPJYRBT
    CD https://www.amazon.com/Bad-Witch-Nin.../dp/B07CV8R349

    UK
    LP
    CD https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bad-Witch-N.../dp/B07CV8R349

    Canada
    LP https://www.amazon.ca/Witch-Vinyl-Ni.../dp/B07CPJYRBT
    CD https://www.amazon.ca/Bad-Witch-Nine.../dp/B07CV8R349

    While you wait until June 22nd.
    1. Re arrange your NIN collection. Once you finish, do it again.
    2. Listen to all the records you like the most.
    3. Take a walk in the park.
    4. Start a stamp collection.
    5. Get married.
    6. Make friends.
    7. Write a love letter to your wife/GF.
    8 Drive from coast to coast.
    9. Buy a pet.
    10. Try not to kill it.

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    Want to know why it's being labelled an LP instead of an EP?
    EPs show up with singles in Spotify and other streaming services = they get lost easier.
    EPs feel less important in today's music-isn't-as-important-as-it-once-was world. Why make it easier to ignore?
    We're not charging any more for it so why get worked up about it?
    Quantum550: suck my entire cock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teitan View Post
    Want to know why it's being labelled an LP instead of an EP?
    EPs show up with singles in Spotify and other streaming services = they get lost easier.
    EPs feel less important in today's music-isn't-as-important-as-it-once-was world. Why make it easier to ignore?
    We're not charging any more for it so why get worked up about it?
    Quantum550: suck my entire cock.
    omg.

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    If anybody wanted a definitive and official answer, well, there you go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alfonso99 View Post
    Lets enjoy the record (see, i didn't say neither EP nor album)
    An EP is an album, a LP is an album, you can say album ;)

    Quote Originally Posted by alfonso99 View Post
    Re arrange your NIN collection
    What do you mean by that ? Like shuffling my vinyl for fun ? Asking someone to take the vinyl themselves and put them in the wrong sleeves to spice things up a bit ?

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