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    Quote Originally Posted by theimage13 View Post
    I think we're saying the same thing, and I'm just not being clear about it. My suggestion was just that instead of a Republican voting for nobody because they just didn't care, they voted Republican because the Evil Democrat was painted to be even worse than every other Evil Democrat who ever lived - and that maybe those otherwise non-voters helped tip things. And in this era, that's also who I would call a swing voter - not someone who is literally open to voting for THE candidate, regardless of party, who aligns with their views - but someone who just can be convinced to go from sitting on their ass and not doing anything to being filled with such a seething rage over the "opposition" candidate that they feel compelled to cast their party-line ballot. I get that that's not the widely (or ever) used definition of a swing voter, but given how low our turnout is in virtually every election, I'd say it's an appropriate phrase.

    And yeah, one of the biggest problems I have with this presidency is that it seems to be nothing more than a business transaction for Trump. He doesn't want to govern. He wants to expand his family dynasty - and there is a strong suspicion of some extremely shady "you scratch my back / I'll scratch yours" shit going on with other countries.
    Yes, but the raging Republican alone wasn’t enough. Trump, despite what he claims, didn’t win by some giant electoral or popular landslide. About the same number of Republicans voted as in the past, overall. Trump won because the Democrats DIDN’T bother showing up. The Democrats DIDN’T have enough motivation against Trump or for Clinton to get off their asses. No matter how crooked the Russians could spin Clinton for the Republicans, the LEAST the Democrats could do was show up at the polls and keep Trump out. But, literally hundreds of thousands of Democrat voters (compared to 2008 and 2012) didn’t vote at all. Did the Russians cause that? Or did Clinton do that? We will never know.

    I totally agree re your second paragraph, though. Trump has ALWAYS been like that, since the 80s.
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    Hillary snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. Trump just happened to be standing in the right place at the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baphomette View Post
    Thoughts, @allegro?
    Haven't read the article yet (about to run out the door), but on the headline alone: this is more "inside hire" than nepotism, so I'm not immediately bothered by it. I don't know anything about the pilot or his / her credentials, so I'm not going to leap to the conclusion of favoritism. If Trump has trusted this person with his life and they know the business, then maybe it's not the absolute worst appointment he's suggested. I'm sure the article sheds a lot more light on it though; I'll have to read it tonight.

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    Dunno, and frankly don’t care since my husband is now blissfully retired.

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    flying him around various places he probably has an awful lot of inside information, think this is probably buying silence, did the exact same thing with devos.
    -Louie

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    Man we have an awesome governor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Louie_Cypher View Post
    flying him around various places he probably has an awful lot of inside information, think this is probably buying silence, did the exact same thing with devos.
    -Louie
    Bottom line:

    CONGRESS controls the FAA purse strings.

    FAAs boss = DOT.

    Head of DOT is Mitch McConnell’s wife.
    Last edited by allegro; 02-28-2018 at 12:50 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by allegate View Post


    Man we have an awesome governor.
    Stuff like this makes me seriously doubt how well he would hold up under questioning from Mueller. The guy has zero ability to keep his shit in check.

    And holy shit, we can embed tweets now? When did this happen? Nice!

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    wow, his body actions said everything that needed to be said. and real no follow up to Gov. Inslee's comments. embarassing.

    I'm a teacher (substitute of all things) , and would certainly not want my co-workers to be strapping guns. They'd be shooting each other/the principals! But all joking aside, I would not be comfortable in that environment. Everyone I works with feels the same way.

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    "I would have run in there"

    By all means, next time this happens, go for it. Put your military training and unparalleled bravery to good use. Show us how you'd take down the guy with the AR-15 with your bare hands and save the day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theimage13 View Post
    "I would have run in there"

    By all means, next time this happens, go for it. Put your military training and unparalleled bravery to good use. Show us how you'd take down the guy with the AR-15 with your bare hands and save the day.
    Colbert said "What are you going to do, run in there and stab them with your bone spurs?" lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by theimage13 View Post
    "I would have run in there"

    By all means, next time this happens, go for it. Put your military training and unparalleled bravery to good use. Show us how you'd take down the guy with the AR-15 with your bare hands and save the day.

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    Cadette bone spurs to the rescue
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    Thanks for the inspiration, @thelastdisciple

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    Yeah he looks like he was gonna run toward the attacker, here, as he clutches the podium for safety ...


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    if we all can stop laughing for a second, realize that for whatever reason this delusional lying idiot is some how running the nation, and what we do to stop it before something really bad happens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Louie_Cypher View Post
    if we all can stop laughing for a second, realize that for whatever reason this delusional lying idiot is some how running the nation, and what we do to stop it before something really bad happens.
    -Louie
    He isn't running the nation, though. Seriously, he isn't. CONGRESS is. Every single piece of legislation Trump has put forward has lived or died based on CONGRESS. Even his executive orders have been largely blocked at every turn. This is what I keep saying. Right now, the Republican party has enough of a majority to pass whatever Trump puts through, but they haven't because they themselves are split on the issues. If the Democrats weren't so worried about garnering their own votes and image, they'd have taken advantage of this, but they haven't, because they're split too. If everyone just said "Trump who?" and went on with the business of running the government, we'd have had solid compromises and some quality legislative changes. Just like when Obama was in office, when the Republicans took control and essentially ran on an anti-Obama platform. Nothing got done, and those that DID go through (like the ACA) were partially screwed up from the get go.

    You really need to stop focusing so much on Trump and START focusing on 1) the midterm elections and 2) voting for important issues in local elections. Trump can be nearly a non-issue and a total lame duck IF we work AROUND him and not constantly AGAINST him.

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    went back and forth on weather to reply, but my more intelligent side lost. you're post makes it seem like i don't know how federal government works i assure you i do. 1) running an anti trump campaign will be ineffective. 1) as you said he has passed no major legislation. 2) the non legislation has not taken effect. 3) he still has the bullshit mountain propaganda machine behind him. although dying out it is still a force.3) if they do want to win back seats they need to come out with progressive ideas which poll very high like single payer modest sensible gun control. the dumbocracats. continually play the moderate card.which actually
    means moving further to the right. you know what compromise means. no one gets what they want.
    -Louie
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    this is really good and encompasses a lot of my opinions

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    @Exocet , I watch RT. Larry King has a show on RT.
    I enjoy hearing different viewpoints, and shit, I don't think it has any more propaganda than our insanely partisan news networks.

    Edit: I also enjoy NHK and BBC
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    1) Round Table Meeting with Trump and Congress re guns etc. today was really really interesting good stuff.

    2) Hope Hicks resigned. Holy shit.

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    I also heard Jeff Sessions said "fuck you" to El Stupido after another tweet where Sessions got dissed.

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    Captain Picard for POTUS in 2020. He is our only hope!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RhettButler View Post
    Captain Picard for POTUS in 2020. He is our only hope!
    Isn't he British?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thevoid99 View Post
    Isn't he British?
    Patrick Stewart is, but Picard is French. So we would need to ammend the constitution so he could run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RhettButler View Post
    Patrick Stewart is, but Picard is French. So we would need to ammend the constitution so he could run.
    OH!!!!! I see where you're going. I like.

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    wasn't fox hannity the the right screaming about Obama taking your guns, but the idiot says it and meh.even doc holiday's hypocrisy tombstone knew some bounds
    -louie

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    Quote Originally Posted by thevoid99 View Post
    I also heard Jeff Sessions said "fuck you" to El Stupido after another tweet where Sessions got dissed.
    Trump called Sessions “Mr. Magoo.”

    Goddam this is a great time to be alive weeeeee

    Kushner is gonna be the next to get the ax ... er, resign.

    Or get indicted.

    Or both.

    DRINKING GAME!
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    So, is there going to be some battle royale at the White House coming and televised? I would like to see that.

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