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    hmmm, what remarkable timing

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    Quote Originally Posted by allegro View Post
    It’s been on TV everywhere here ALL FUCKING DAY. We just haven’t talked about it here on ETS.

    https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/04/1...ia-attack.html

    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/11/trum...-in-syria.html

    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/...ist=associated

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/trump-taunt...ry?id=54387687

    The general consensus is that he’s full of shit, blowing smoke out his ass, since he was just recently pulling out of Syria and backing Putin. And he’s saying “I didn’t say WHEN.”
    I wish you / the general consensus had been right...

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/13/w...ia-attack.html

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    figured an attack would happen over the weekend to distract from the Comey book, it will be interesting to see how Russia's responds. we don't now what intelligence they have what has or has not been them to them. this could get very ugly very fast
    -Louie

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    "precision strikes"

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    Wow.... we're fucked. Thanks a lot fuckhead.

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    It's on then.

    Thank fuck I have two passports

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    Bolton's probably jerking off to the footage as we speak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thelastdisciple View Post


    Madness.
    i was just listening to the radio on the ride back from work while the news was coming out. Brian Suits often has interesting and informed insight into this stuff, and his takeaway on this was interesting, yet also a little aggravating.

    He seems to think that the gesture, the rapid roll out and demonstration of allied support, along with the seemingly unnecessary decision to put us troop lives in potential danger, was all part of a "fuck off and don't you dare fuck with us" statement, but that it was mostly disinterested in scaring Syria or Russia.... That it was probably directed more to North Korea...

    I dont think anyone knows really, and I think so much is weighing on Russian response that it's a little silly to imply there isn't a huge bluff being called on their front. All I know... Is that if this is a tactfully constructed military maneuver that is intended to subtly assert our dominance to NK or any other non-direct party, Trump will soon enough fuck it up in some horrifying Twitter fit.

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    It was just another move that was very similar to what they did a year ago, and what Obama WANTED to do with the "red line" but didn't. Truth is, there's not a whole fucking hell of a lot LEFT in Syria. But, the allies are obligated to tell Syria and Russia that nobody can use chemical weapons. Mattis was at the Pentagon tonight, said that it was a limited strike and we're pretty much already done, it was a one-shot event but we used double the weapons we used last time.

    Meanwhile, Alex Jones is LOSING HIS FUCKING MIND, claiming "the left is CELEBRATING!!!"

    Alex Jones should be committed (as should every sick fuck he has on his show).
    https://twitter.com/joshrogin/status/984990137544257536
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinsai View Post
    probably directed more to North Korea
    I don't know, I don't think that makes sense.

    You just know Kim Jong-un and his dudes are watching the TV right now like "See, this is why we need our fucking nukes."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Louie_Cypher View Post
    figured an attack would happen over the weekend to distract from the Comey book, it will be interesting to see how Russia's responds. we don't now what intelligence they have what has or has not been them to them. this could get very ugly very fast
    This is a not "distraction" from anything, really. On April 4th, Trump announced that he was pulling American troops out of Syria. John McCain and others asserted that this "emboldened" al-Assad, Russia, Iran and Turkey, because then al-Assad usad used chemical weapons on April 7th, ultimately pulling us back in, again. To think that using chemical weapons to kill innocent people was somehow also part of a "distraction" plan is beyond silly, of course. Problem is, this President has so much shit going on, every actual really serious thing that comes up is going to prompt people to think it's some cooked-up bullshit distraction even when it's not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mantra View Post
    I don't know, I don't think that makes sense.

    You just know Kim Jong-un and his dudes are watching the TV right now like "See, this is why we need our fucking nukes."

    Yup, pretty much. The world isn't all "connect the dots." It IS a game of "Risk."

    Iran, al-Assad, Russia and Turkey are partnered up together to control Syria. Israel is scared shitless of that.

    But that has NOTHING to do with North Korea, or China.

    I don't know how old most of you were in January of 1991, but watching the sudden live Desert Storm attack on Baghdad on every TV station was fricking crazy, I will never forget it.

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    Here's the thing, I don't necessarily buy the nk angle, but so much is confounding me here... for starters, and maybe I'm missing something super obvious, but WHY is Assad gassing kids? What is the strategic purpose behind telling the world "hey we have deadly gas weapons! And we're not afraid to use them! What are ya gonna do bout it?!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinsai View Post
    Here's the thing, I don't necessarily buy the nk angle, but so much is confounding me here... for starters, and maybe I'm missing something super obvious, but WHY is Assad gassing kids? What is the strategic purpose behind telling the world "hey we have deadly gas weapons! And we're not afraid to use them! What are ya gonna do bout it?!"
    al-Assad isn’t “gassing kids.” There is a civil war. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_Civil_War

    Also, Russia is saying the chemical weapons attack was staged by the U.K.: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-43747922

    (Note that Russia gave chemical weapons to Syria.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by allegro View Post
    Meanwhile, Alex Jones is LOSING HIS FUCKING MIND, claiming "the left is CELEBRATING!!!"

    Alex Jones should be committed (as should every sick fuck he has on his show).
    https://twitter.com/joshrogin/status/984990137544257536
    He's crying here...


    lol

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    Wtf that guy missed a few days of his meds

    That’s okay, BILLY Corgan will come over and comfort him and blow smoke up his ass.

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    Snippets of Comey’s interview with Stephanopoulos on TV today had me LAUGHING MY ASS OFF HOLY SHIT:

    ”I started to tell him about the allegation was, that he had been involved with prostitutes in a hotel in Moscow in 2013 during a visit for the Miss Universe pageant and that the Russians had filmed the episode. And he interrupted very defensively, and started talking about, 'Do I look like a guy who needs hookers?'"

    "It was almost an out-of-body experience for me. I was floating above myself, looking down, saying, 'You're sitting here briefing the incoming president of the United States about prostitutes in Moscow.'"

    "And then he says something that distracted me. He said, 'If there's even a 1% chance that my wife thinks that's true, that's terrible.' And I remember thinking, 'How could your wife think there's a 1% chance that you were with prostitutes peeing on each other in Moscow?'"

    “I'm a flawed human being, but there is literally zero chance that my wife would think that was true. So what kind of marriage to what kind of man, does your wife think there's only a 99% chance you didn't do that?"

    “I honestly never thought these words would come out of my mouth, but I don't know whether the current president of the United States was with prostitutes peeing on each other in Moscow in 2013. It's possible, but I don't know
    Okay, and then my 80-year-old mother, who was standing next to me watching this, shouts: “TRUMP IS R KELLY!!”
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    I don't want to sound like Chicken Little, but it seems a fair amount of California might be in a power outage. Southern California Edison and PG&E might be having issues. Ted Koppel was right.
    http://downdetector.com/status/pge/map/

    https://www.sce.com/wps/portal/home/...vZ0FBIS9nQSEh/

    EDIT: Power's back on. That was the second outage tonight.

    Chicken Little
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinsai View Post
    Here's the thing, I don't necessarily buy the nk angle, but so much is confounding me here... for starters, and maybe I'm missing something super obvious, but WHY is Assad gassing kids? What is the strategic purpose behind telling the world "hey we have deadly gas weapons! And we're not afraid to use them! What are ya gonna do bout it?!"
    It's a civil war, and the side opposing him are embedded amongst the civilian population. Attacking civilian areas and spreading terror demoralises or kills supporters and dissuades further support.

    If you use gas, you don't have to rebuild the area when the conflict is over (remember it is his country), as you would if you had bombed it

    It is pretty staggering that he would do this given the inevitable international reaction, but presumably Russia has said they will back them up

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    Mission Accomplished. Yes, really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sutekh View Post

    It is pretty staggering that he would do this given the inevitable international reaction, but presumably Russia has said they will back them up
    This is what I'm talking about; the flagrantly "come at me" optics of this, especially considering our previous missile showcase deterrent apparently not being a big enough deterrent for Syria to really stop playing chicken in this regard. I get the "reasons" for this sort of thing, but I think taking this sort of atrocity at face value without wondering if there's some bait here is... I dunno, I'm not a conspiracy theorist AT ALL, but this feels like we're playing Rampage while Putin is playing chess (or Risk, if you want)

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    Trump’s speech last night addressed Russia, saying that Russia promised - in 2013 - to make sure that al-Assad would stop using chemical weapons; Trump then said that both Russia and Iran must think real hard about whether or not they want to be friends with al-Assad. So the question is if there was an organized INTENT for Assad to use those weapons, or if Assad is just a sole-actor (who kills and tortures his own people).

    Also, to further what @Sutekh said, in addition to the remaining Assad opposition living among civilians, Assad thinks that a lot of remaining innocent civilian people are his enemies, too. He can’t tell the difference. And, as @Sutekh said, chemical weapons preserve infrastructure. To put it in perspective, he’s killed about 500,000 of his own people with conventional weapons.

    This is REALLY complicated, watch 10 minutes of MSNBC today, re how MUCH shit is involved in Syria, geopolitically, strategically, etc.

    Last night, the Pentagon says we specifically targeted chemical weapons and research facilities in Syria.

    People are bitching that we don’t have a strategic plan; but it’s pretty hard to have one in some other country’s civil war. Right now, it’s a proxy war combined with a civil war.

    Trump tweeted “Mission Accomplished” because the Pentagon’s specific mission last night was accomplished (and probably because the President’s speech last night was inartful and seemed to imply that we were going to continue bombing and fighting indefinitely).

    But our current strategy re Syria appears to be the same as it has been all along: (a) moral (chemical weapons BAD) and (b) defeat ISIS.

    This administration has / the last administration had NO interest in getting rid of the al-Assad regime. Some American strategists WANT to, but THAT would likely cause WWIII (because Russia wants access to that port, and Iran wants to keep Sunnis out).
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    This is about all I have to say.


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    Except that’s just stupid and awful? Democrats aren’t against handguns, or the 2nd Amendment, and Sanders has backed #2A AND gun manufacturers. That meme looks like it was created by Hannity.

    Clinton LOST because she was too much of a hawk and Trump won because he wasn’t, and now the Trumpists are freaking out because Trump did this and went against everything he promised, the Democrats are freaking out saying he did this without Congressional approval, and the Republicans are saying he needs a strategy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DigitalChaos View Post
    This is about all I have to say.

    A strange juncture to make that (mostly valid) point... but did Bernie ever sign off on drone strikes?

    And as cold blooded as it is, it's not inexplicable why leaders prioritise their own people.

    But yes, people are hypocrites. However I will say, there was more opposition from liberals to drone strikes than there is opposition from cons to laissez faire firearms sales

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sutekh View Post
    A strange juncture to make that (mostly valid) point... but did Bernie ever sign off on drone strikes?

    And as cold blooded as it is, it's not inexplicable why leaders prioritise their own people.

    But yes, people are hypocrites. However I will say, there was more opposition from liberals to drone strikes than there is opposition from cons to laissez faire firearms sales
    It's a shitty meme that makes a point. I'd have filled it with republicans too if I made it. As for Sanders: https://www.alternet.org/election-20...iolence-abroad


    Here's alex Jones

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    Quote Originally Posted by DigitalChaos View Post
    It's a shitty meme that makes a point. I'd have filled it with republicans too if I made it. As for Sanders: https://www.alternet.org/election-20...iolence-abroad


    Here's alex Jones
    Im not against guns at all and most of my views are left. I dont care if you have a shotgun, a handgun, Knives or anything of that shit

    I don't like people having Assult rifles because you don't need them in a civilized environment. You dont need one to hunt, you dont need one to take down a person, everything else can do that for you. The only place I ever want to see it is with is with a soldier. Other then that, you can do whatever you want with your guns. And this is someone who was born in raised in Portland, Oregon, one of the most liberal cities in the USA

    And sharing a shitty meme to try and prove a point only makes you look like a shitty person

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    As a Gent, I can't like a post that makes a personal slight like that.

    But there's a salient point in there, I'd be interested to hear a refutation

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    Quote Originally Posted by DigitalChaos View Post
    This is about all I have to say.

    You pretty much have your very own Gunnut thread. I would think thatís sufficient.

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    As someone who's almost 100% anti-war, I strongly agree that Dems are way too hawk-ish. It's incredibly depressing to me, and it's one of the primary reasons that I find it hard to get that fired up about any particular Dem candidate.

    But holy shit, gun nuts don't have a foot to stand on in this argument. They've all got the blood of dead high school students on their hands just as much as war hawks have the blood of dead civilians on theirs. It's all the same thing: "these human beings are expendable for the sake of furthering my political cause."

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