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    I have a friend who knows nothing about US government... what are midterm elections and whats the impact? I.E. Trump/Reps gets majorty votes; or Trump/Reps gets nill.

    Amount of seats in the house?

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    Quote Originally Posted by snaapz View Post
    I have a friend who knows nothing about US government... what are midterm elections and whats the impact? I.E. Trump/Reps gets majorty votes; or Trump/Reps gets nill.

    Amount of seats in the house?
    Too simple to just sum up like that. Plenty of info that explains it here.

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    Thanks, that led me to here https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/midter...rats-1.4855905

    A Canadian site and didn't really answer my question but thanks!!

    For Canadian politics it is quite simple; the elected party is either a majority ( >50% seats) and can more easily push things. Or they are a minority and need the support of the opposition to pass their bills.

    We don't have midterm elections at a Federal level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snaapz View Post
    I have a friend who knows nothing about US government... what are midterm elections and whats the impact? I.E. Trump/Reps gets majorty votes; or Trump/Reps gets nill.

    Amount of seats in the house?
    We're voting for all 435 seats in the House as they are re-elected every two years. We're also voting for 35 Senate seats that have reached the end of their six-year terms. The odds are increasing that Democrats will take the House back from the Republicans, but the odds are also increasing that Republicans will keep the Senate since 26 of the Senate seats up are being defended by Democrats and only 9 by Republicans.

    Right now, Trump and the Republicans control everything. If Dems can take one chamber of Congress, they can slow down or halt Trump's agenda similar to what happened to Barack Obama in 2010.

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    Thank you. Now I know there is stigma with supporting Trump; I went to a Godsmack/Shinedown concert in the US and I befriended some concert goers, teachers actually. They told me they felt embarrassed by Trump.

    Meanwhile to me (and I don't know much at all) Canadian dairy farmers and Canadian steel workers are feeling as though the USA got the better end of the deals Trump had recently made to NAFTA. USA workers will benefit, Canadian workers/farmers are scrambling to compensate and the Canadian gov is already subsidizing dairy farmers.

    Isn't it good that Trump has the balls to make some real moves that benefit the USA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by snaapz View Post
    Thank you. Now I know there is stigma with supporting Trump; I went to a Godsmack/Shinedown concert in the US and I befriended some concert goers, teachers actually. They told me they felt embarrassed by Trump.

    Meanwhile to me (and I don't know much at all) Canadian dairy farmers and Canadian steel workers are feeling as though the USA got the better end of the deals Trump had recently made to NAFTA. USA workers will benefit, Canadian workers/farmers are scrambling to compensate and the Canadian gov is already subsidizing dairy farmers.

    Isn't it good that Trump has the balls to make some real moves that benefit the USA?
    They're not benefiting American workers; they're benefiting corporations and the super rich. Pig farmers here in Tennessee are furious about the tariffs and saw the proposed bailout for them as insulting. These are people who voted for Trump. Also, separating families at the border, banning immigrants from entering the US, and appointing a sexual assaulter to the Supreme Court isn't worth any trade-off, and I'm likely forgetting other human rights abuses this administration has perpetrated because it feels like it all happened 20 years ago.

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    Well, whatever happens on November 6, November 7 (or shortly thereafter) is gonna make a lot of people happy and a lot of people really angry. Time will tell who gets what.

    Mueller ready to delivery key findings in Trump probe

    Reportedly, yes or no answers on clear evidence of collusion and clear evidence of obstruction of justice are set to be answered in release...if it is made public, that is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snaapz View Post

    Isn't it good that Trump has the balls to make some real moves that benefit the USA?
    If only things were that simple... so when Trump's bullshit tariffs hit the pockets of farmers (read: his voting base), he subsidizes their losses with a 6 billion dollar check... and that money still comes from somewhere. It's a form of socialism his supporters like. Maybe if he can win that lawsuit against California for keeping net neutrality alive he can take it out of there, because we sure as shit aren't voting for him and he knows it.

    Regarding the kind of balls I'd like our leaders to have, it'd be the sort that doesn't have him licking Putin's boots.

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    wh counsel resigned meuller ready to drop the hammer after the midterms
    -louie

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    Quote Originally Posted by Louie_Cypher View Post
    wh counsel resigned meuller ready to drop the hammer after the midterms
    -louie
    He resigned in August. And just a reminder re: Mueller:

    That doesnít necessarily mean Muellerís findings would be made public if he doesnít secure unsealed indictments. The regulations governing Muellerís probe stipulate that he can present his findings only to his boss, who is currently Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein. The regulations give a special counselís supervisor some discretion in deciding what is relayed to Congress and what is publicly released.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theimage13 View Post
    He resigned in August. And just a reminder re: Mueller:
    he'll resign part of the deal will be to seal the report. they'll claim the country is too divided or some shit. He'll walk and have pulled the greatest scam in history in a couple of years the republicans will run someone even more corrupt and stupid. they did with "W" sigh.....
    -louie

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    Trump says U.S. will pull out of nuke treaty with Russia that limited number of missiles
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ia/1712994002/

    Looks like we may very well be heading into a nuclear war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick_Nicholas View Post
    Trump says U.S. will pull out of nuke treaty with Russia that limited number of missiles
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ia/1712994002/

    Looks like we may very well be heading into a nuclear war.
    Putin may want another cold war. People living in fear is right up his alley. Add in some chaotic propaganda so that you never know what to believe and suddenly the USA is ready to tear itself apart. Not that it's far from that as it is though.

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    Trump Administration Wants to Change Definition of Gender to Restrict Transgender Rights
    https://www.rollingstone.com/politic...nition-745214/

    The Trump administration memo recommended the government define gender “on a biological basis that is clear, grounded in science, objective and administrable.” Under the new guidelines, the only gender options would be male or female, and gender could not be changed over the course of a person’s life. Genetic testing would be used to determine a person’s gender, if need be.
    In other words, this wonderful administration refuses to even accept people who have had actual sex-change operations. Even if Trump were to be successfully removed before 2020, we would end up with President Pence keeping shit like this alive.

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    Sex.

    They want to change the dictionary definition of "gender" to "biological sex".

    Fucking morons.

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    For the record, the president - the only person at his level of authority who claimed that Khashoggi's death was probably not suspect and the Saudis are great - is now saying that it's "the worst cover up ever".

    Bro, you were literally the only one who believed he wasn't murdered by the government. So congratulations, you just called yourself the biggest moron ever.

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    Everyday I wake up and hope the air Force one has crashed, these people are the worst humanity has to offer

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    Quote Originally Posted by theimage13 View Post
    Sex.

    They want to change the dictionary definition of "gender" to "biological sex".

    Fucking morons.
    fucking fascists.

    just a single fate: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dora_Richter
    Last edited by baudolino; 10-24-2018 at 05:38 AM.

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    Any mention yet here of the bombs? CNN NY was just evacuated. In the past 48 hours, bombs have been found at or near the homes of the Clintons, Obamas, Soros, and the White House. Seems a lot like it's from a single source...

    Edit: For clarity, a number of the bombs were apparently intercepted by Secret Service before arriving at their intended destination. Scary shit.

    Edit 2: Now another one sent to Debbie Wasserman Schultz's office. One of the earlier bombs was addressed to former CIA Director John Brennan.
    Last edited by october_midnight; 10-24-2018 at 11:42 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by october_midnight View Post
    Any mention yet here of the bombs? CNN NY was just evacuated. In the past 48 hours, bombs have been found at or near the homes of the Clintons, Obamas, Soros, and the White House. Seems a lot like it's from a single source...

    Edit: For clarity, a number of the bombs were apparently intercepted by Secret Service before arriving at their intended destination. Scary shit.

    Edit 2: Now another one sent to Debbie Wasserman Schultz's office. One of the earlier bombs was addressed to former CIA Director John Brennan.
    Don't shoot the messenger, but it's already being spun on social media as a stunt by the Democrats to gain leverage for the midterms. Supposedly the "proof" is in the fact that every one of these devices, so far, has been intercepted with no detonation.

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    Fair enough. Also however, what is known so far of the packages:

    - Manila in color, identical components found inside.
    - Return address belonging to a prominent Democratic official.

    Nobody is naming that person yet for obvious safety concerns, but seems like a set up.

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    I don't see how this could gain anyone leverage though. I mean, one person sending mail bombs isn't representative of the entire party.

    Also at least one return address was apparently Debbie Wasserman Schultz.

    Edit: they keep changing the news and I've only been watching it for like 20 minutes.
    Last edited by elevenism; 10-24-2018 at 12:40 PM.

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    This sounds like the work of a lone nut who's bought into one too many of the conspiracy theories that Alex Jones has been peddling.

    Looks like this has been enough to even make Trump say "Whoa, cut that out". It's incredible that it took this long to get to that point, but here we are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eskimo View Post
    This sounds like the work of a lone nut who's bought into one too many of the conspiracy theories that Alex Jones has been peddling.

    Looks like this has been enough to even make Trump say "Whoa, cut that out". It's incredible that it took this long to get to that point, but here we are.
    Yeah, I just saw Pence on tv and he looked PISSED.

    What this is is fucking terrorism.

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    I've moved the mail bomb discussion here since this has more to do with the climate Trump and the GOP has fostered and not the midterm elections.

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    I like how it took the right no time at all to start spinning this as an elaborate false flag conspiracy. Amazing how nothing gets through to these delusional shitheads, and no matter what happens, they've always got a handy conspiracy theory ready to explain away all the real life consequences of their bullshit movement.

    I swear, it's only a matter of time before these fucking idiots decide to retcon the olkahoma city bombing into another false flag hallucination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mantra View Post
    I like how it took the right no time at all to start spinning this as an elaborate false flag conspiracy. Amazing how nothing gets through to these delusional shitheads, and no matter what happens, they've always got a handy conspiracy theory ready to explain away all the real life consequences of their bullshit movement.

    I swear, it's only a matter of time before these fucking idiots decide to retcon the olkahoma city bombing into another false flag hallucination.
    Honestly with the way Trump's been praising the Saudi's, I've personally been waiting for his base to start doing the same thing for 9/11.

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    I didn't even think of this until Jon Favreau said this on Twitter just now - this was a coordinated assassination attempt of two former presidents, a former vice president, two former first ladies, and other former senior government and intelligence officials... and Donald Trump is blaming the media for all of this.

    This is fucking crazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ltrandazzo View Post
    This is fucking crazy.
    I've been saying this every day for the last 3 years now, and everyday it somehow manages to get worse!

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    Canít he muster up just a tiny bit of self reflection? Mother fucker is just reckless without remorse.


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