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    Well Oberst was also falsely accused of rape a few years back.

    ETA that I'm not saying Adams was falsely accused of rape. I meant "also" as in that's why his name may be associated with the Ryan Adams stuff.
    Last edited by Archive_Reports; 02-20-2019 at 06:42 PM. Reason: Clarification

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    Adams was in a Dallas band called Whiskeytown back in the day, who had a long running public feud with my friends' band, the Old 97s.
    They've since PUBLICLY made nice, but...fuck it, nobody's gonna see this...at least two of the 97s still think Adams is a piece of shit.
    I found this (largely forgotten) song on Youtube; the 97s didn't crack the top ten until like 2013, and this was released in like 99 or 00. but I can confirm that it's DEFINITELY about Adams.



    Here are some lyrics that MIGHT be telling :
    "
    You'll regret the things that you done
    One of these days you're gonna rue
    All the messed up things you do"
    "
    You'll hate your face when the morning shines
    On the mirror frame and your guilty mind."
    "
    And do the walls know what you done?
    And do they listen in on you?
    Do the walls know what you do?"

    NOW, with these accusations, could the 97s genuine dislike for adams have stemmed from rumblings of sexual misconduct back in the day in texas?

    I can't help but wonder, now. It wasn't one of those "fun" band feuds, at least not on the Old 97s side. They legitimately HIGHLY disapproved of him, for SOME reason.

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    According to online sources, Whiskytown and Adams are from Raleigh, North Carolina (1994 - 2000).

    Looks like Adams was just a dick: https://m.riverfronttimes.com/musicb...night-st-louis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat Mom View Post
    According to online sources, Whiskytown and Adams are from Raleigh, North Carolina (1994 - 2000).

    Looks like Adams was just a dick: https://m.riverfronttimes.com/musicb...night-st-louis
    The bastard played Dallas somewhat regularly in the 90s, and the feud was talked about so much, that I assumed he was local. He was also legendary for being a drunken asshole at Dallas shows (in general- not just making fun of Rhett and co.) So, yeah, the story you linked, along with pissing off local audiences and being similar bands, that COULD be it.

    BUT: With both bands being part of what was then a microgenre, being on Bloodshot Records for a time, and being part of the same small scene, I STILL have to wonder if the 97's had heard accusations.
    I KNOW that song is aimed at him, and its theme of guilt is sort of creepy now.
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    R Kelly vacates his West Side recording studio after Judge slaps him with building violations for using 2nd story (zoned commercial / industrial) as a residence and Judge puts curfew on building:

    https://wgntv.com/2019/02/20/r-kelly...tudio-lawyers/

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    Weird story, I waited in front of the venue really early on the day Ryan Adams was playing downtown here back in...like 2005 or so? The Cold Roses tour. Anyways, I just wanted to shake the guy's hand and offer to take him for a beer. There were about two other people, so not like a mob. He walked out to go get lunch I guess, with a handler or manager...I just said hey, and one of the other people did the same and he just turned to the manager and yelled, and this is on a daytime sunny afternoon downtown street...I mean yelled "MAKE THEM LEAVE. I'M NOT EVEN AT WORK YET."

    The other people left, I just sorta stood in disbelief and said fuck it, went and had lunch before the show too haha.

    Randomly, about three years ago I was having a convo with a friend on Twitter, and he must've been searching himself...I didn't @ him...I was literally just telling the above story and it included like 'yeah and Ryan Adams screamed at us and walked away.' etc. and suddenly like 10 min later... @TheRyanAdams is now following you!

    I thought 'whoa' and sure enough like 30 seconds later the Twitter DM's started comin' in. "Sorry about anything that may have happened in the past. I was not in a good place on that tour, drinking and drugs led me to be someone else that I don't even remember." and so on and so forth. He apologized profusely and said he was better finally. I told him it was all good, we talked music for like 6 back and forth DM's and then he stopped following and that was that.

    Just weird that he was searching for his own name on Twitter.

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    Interesting take on this new Leaving Neverland documentary about Michael Jackson
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/joevoge...mpression=true

    I just don’t believe them to be honest. Also I hate one-sided documentaries (see Montage of Heck)

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    Quote Originally Posted by WorzelG View Post
    Interesting take on this new Leaving Neverland documentary about Michael Jackson
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/joevoge...mpression=true

    I just don’t believe them to be honest. Also I hate one-sided documentaries (see Montage of Heck)
    Unfortunately, it no longer matters whether he was guilty or not. The public has already convicted him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRoswell View Post
    Unfortunately, it no longer matters whether he was guilty or not. The public has already convicted him.
    who, MJ?
    Fuuuuuck that. Not me. I have like three michael Jackson shirts and wear them with pride, goddamnit.

    Edit: also, all I had to hear was who was behind this doc.
    I don't believe that dude.
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    Wait, what? People still defend MJ?!

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    Good, fuck this guy. He's been a piece of shit forever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarah K View Post
    Wait, what? People still defend MJ?!
    its been to actual court so many times and he’s been cleared, this isn’t like some anonymous thing. Did you read the article? It just seems like people are “well Michael Jackson is a freak so he must be guilty”.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WorzelG View Post
    its been to actual court so many times and he’s been cleared, this isn’t like some anonymous thing. Did you read the article? It just seems like people are “well Michael Jackson is a freak so he must be guilty”.
    MJ was my favorite as a kid and then Janet ruled my preteen years. The fact that he wasn’t convicted combined with Janet standing by him made me believe it was false. I have no problem admitting that I’m biased and want to believe he was innocent.

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    Some serious trigger warnings here - The Fast and the Furious director's daughter shares her story of childhood abuse at the hands of her father, with confirmation from her mother.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarah K View Post
    Wait, what? People still defend MJ?!
    After being cleared twice, having multiple accusers recant their accusations as adults, and having many of the families of the accusers turn out to be abusive themselves, people still think MJ did it?

    I feel so sorry for that guy. He was clearly mentally ill as a product of his abusive upbringing, virtually everyone in his life took advantage of his fragility and trusting personality, the media destroyed him over and over, he was a victim of ridiculous lawsuits for his entire life (not only limited to the abuse ones) and died sad and alone. The fact that he was damaged so much in life that even his legacy is tainted with what are essentially rumors just makes his story even more tragic. I don't believe that MJ hurt those children any more than I believe Marilyn Manson had a rib removed. It's just another the public fearing and ostracizing those who are different.

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    Jeez, R Kelly apparently met one of his alleged victims at his (ahem) underage erotica trial

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    Quote Originally Posted by WorzelG View Post
    its been to actual court so many times and he’s been cleared, this isn’t like some anonymous thing. Did you read the article? It just seems like people are “well Michael Jackson is a freak so he must be guilty”.
    I’d say it’s more “I love his music so he must be innocent.”

    I haven’t seen the movie yet, but apparently it’s pretty convincing. How about we watch the documentary before discrediting it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinsai View Post
    I’d say it’s more “I love his music so he must be innocent.”

    I haven’t seen the movie yet, but apparently it’s pretty convincing. How about we watch the documentary before discrediting it?
    seems to me like cashing in on me too to try and get uncritical validation despite actually having gone through the courts and one-sided heart string pulling which always rubs me up the wrong way. So I don’t think I’ll be watching the “documentary”, I can’t get HBO anyway

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    R. Kelly pleads not guilty. Oh, boy, here we go!

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    George Pell's lawyer says child abuse was 'plain vanilla' sex as cardinal heads to jail

    What the FUCK?

    Oh, it's FINE. It was just regular sex with a 13 year old boy. NOTHING TO SEE HERE, FOLKS. MOVE ALONG.

    Richter tried to argue there were “no aggravating circumstances” to one of the offences. It was “no more than a plain vanilla sexual penetration case where the child is not actively participating,” he told the court.

    The chief judge, Peter Kidd, responded: “It must be clear to you by now I’m struggling with that submission. Looking at your points here – so what?”
    How the fuck can you actually say that if you aren't a child rapist yourself? Unbelievable. The judge's response was great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by klyrish View Post
    George Pell's lawyer says child abuse was 'plain vanilla' sex as cardinal heads to jail

    What the FUCK?

    Oh, it's FINE. It was just regular sex with a 13 year old boy. NOTHING TO SEE HERE, FOLKS. MOVE ALONG.



    How the fuck can you actually say that if you aren't a child rapist yourself? Unbelievable. The judge's response was great.
    Yeah i saw that headline and just though how in the fuck would anyone be OK with that?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by klyrish View Post
    George Pell's lawyer says child abuse was 'plain vanilla' sex as cardinal heads to jail

    What the FUCK?

    Oh, it's FINE. It was just regular sex with a 13 year old boy. NOTHING TO SEE HERE, FOLKS. MOVE ALONG.



    How the fuck can you actually say that if you aren't a child rapist yourself? Unbelievable. The judge's response was great.
    Riiiiight. Yeah.
    Face fucking KiDS is "plain vanilla."
    Good god, that's fucking insane.

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    Totally agree with this take on Ryan Adams and ‘genius’.
    http://wallacewylie.blogspot.com/201...ot-genius.html
    very much agree that the bestowing of the term ‘genius’ on someone so generic and mediocre is part of the problem

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    Watching this Leaving Neverland doc. I buy it, and this seems very real.

    I believe the victims here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinsai View Post
    Watching this Leaving Neverland doc. I buy it, and this seems very real.

    I believe the victims here.
    I need to check this out tonight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kodiak33 View Post
    I need to check this out tonight.
    Just be warned, the trigger warning in the beginning is legitimate. Even if I was talking to someone who was 1000% sure he didn't do any of these things, some of the graphic descriptions are horrifying and they spill out of seemingly nowhere... I still haven't made it all the way through the first part, I needed a break.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinsai View Post
    Just be warned, the trigger warning in the beginning is legitimate. Even if I was talking to someone who was 1000% sure he didn't do any of these things, some of the graphic descriptions are horrifying and they spill out of seemingly nowhere... I still haven't made it all the way through the first part, I needed a break.
    My husband has friends who are saying the same thing.

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    it's rough, and the portrait it paints of MJ's routine of moving from boy to boy after he got tired with one seems very plausible, and therefore damning.

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