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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbie solo View Post
    Surprised there's been no discussion of Surving R. Kelly on Lifetime. It's a must watch, and completely insane what he has gotten away with. And no, it's not just rehashing the old news. There's lots of new things, and many details you and I prolly didnt know about the older, well documented stuff. The interviews with his victims are captivating. This motherfucker has to go down now I hope. The groundswell this weekend and today has been major.
    I doubt it. This worthless human being has never been snubbed any opportunities or fame after numerous dastardly accounts being surfaced. It'll take a big wave to capsize his boat.

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    I hear you Space. On the macro scale and over the total course of time, you're pretty much right. I'd say since 2017 things at least on the industry side have changed dramatically for him though at least. Very few radio stations play him anymore (I'd imagine none after this weekend), and Spotify took him off their playlists. It's pathetic that they & others won't just drop his music entirely though. And he hasn't been able to book any shows since last spring, and most if not all those shows got cancelled. Sad that his social media isn't being cancelled by those companies too. Hope things start to shift on the legal side now, b/c that's really what matters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbie solo View Post
    Surprised there's been no discussion of Surving R. Kelly on Lifetime. It's a must watch, and completely insane what he has gotten away with. And no, it's not just rehashing the old news. There's lots of new things, and many details you and I prolly didnt know about the older, well documented stuff. The interviews with his victims are captivating. This motherfucker has to go down now I hope. The groundswell this weekend and today has been major.
    Jim DeRogatis here in Chicago has been on Kelly’s ass for a while.

    July of 2017: https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article...ult#.emZ0am62Y

    December of 2000: https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/su...teenage-girls/

    Kelly’s ex wife Andrea has been speaking out, too. https://www.billboard.com/articles/n...kelly-the-view

    Nobody was BELIEVING DeRo or these women. Until now, hopefully. He has to be stopped.

    When Dave Chapelle did that “Pee on You” vid, that was serious shit.
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    Two women sexually assaulted a trans woman in a North Carolina bathroom

    But no, keep telling me how letting trans people use bathrooms is a danger to all the good cis people of the world. Ugh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theimage13 View Post
    Two women sexually assaulted a trans woman in a North Carolina bathroom

    But no, keep telling me how letting trans people use bathrooms is a danger to all the good cis people of the world. Ugh.
    Where are trans people banned from using bathrooms?

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    Here's drake fondling a girl he, at first, doesn't know is underage. Then, he finds out her age, says he loved the way her breasts felt against his chest, and kisses her.

    We all knew about R Kelly. We've known since his marriage to a 15 year old Aaliyah in, what, 94? Then there was the pissing thing and the child porn. Yet, he remained a superstar. NOW, we're being told to get mad. I was already fucking mad.

    But why aren't we collectively mad at Drake? Why isn't this video all over the news? Where is the investigation into Drake?

    I feel like certain people are still being shielded and enabled, with the media and production companies being complicit, and it's PROBABLY about MONEY.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tremolo View Post
    Where are trans people banned from using bathrooms?
    Are you trolling with this question and angling at some sort of "well if they have to use the bathroom for a different gender THEY CAN STILL PEE so they AREN'T BANNED" or are you actually unfamiliar with the easily googled bathroom legislation? http://lmgtfy.com/?q=trans+bathroom+ban

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    It's not even remotely the same. It's a bad look for sure, but he was alot younger, more immature and much less famous at the time. Not excusing it, just giving in context. He's def. wrong for doing anything he did there. If this video ends up as one example among more of similar actions, then he should go down. But for now I'd move on, or take an apology from Drake at most.

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    Quote Originally Posted by playwithfire View Post
    Are you trolling with this question
    Correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbie solo View Post
    It's not even remotely the same. It's a bad look for sure, but he was alot younger, more immature and much less famous at the time. Not excusing it, just giving in context. He's def. wrong for doing anything he did there. If this video ends up as one example among more of similar actions, then he should go down. But for now I'd move on, or take an apology from Drake at most.
    i guess it's more that I'm frustrated that R Kelly got away with all that shit for so long, but now everyone is outraged. I don't think it's just the times, either.
    It's mind boggling, and, again, I swear, I think it's about money. Like, the industry shielded him, like "just everyone pretend this isn't happening; he's still marketable."
    I can't imagine lady gaga didn't know about his history when she recorded that track with him she's apologizing for now.

    It seems, idk, orchestrated somehow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by playwithfire View Post
    Are you trolling with this question and angling at some sort of "well if they have to use the bathroom for a different gender THEY CAN STILL PEE so they AREN'T BANNED" or are you actually unfamiliar with the easily googled bathroom legislation? http://lmgtfy.com/?q=trans+bathroom+ban
    Yep. He's a troll. He pops up every once in a while to post contrary bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elevenism View Post

    Here's drake fondling a girl he, at first, doesn't know is underage. Then, he finds out her age, says he loved the way her breasts felt against his chest, and kisses her.

    We all knew about R Kelly. We've known since his marriage to a 15 year old Aaliyah in, what, 94? Then there was the pissing thing and the child porn. Yet, he remained a superstar. NOW, we're being told to get mad. I was already fucking mad.

    But why aren't we collectively mad at Drake? Why isn't this video all over the news? Where is the investigation into Drake?

    I feel like certain people are still being shielded and enabled, with the media and production companies being complicit, and it's PROBABLY about MONEY.
    This video was all over the news. When it surfaced, I couldn't go to any of my regular outlets without seeing it for several days in a row.

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    Quote Originally Posted by playwithfire View Post
    Are you trolling with this question and angling at some sort of "well if they have to use the bathroom for a different gender THEY CAN STILL PEE so they AREN'T BANNED" or are you actually unfamiliar with the easily googled bathroom legislation? http://lmgtfy.com/?q=trans+bathroom+ban
    I wasn’t trolling, it was a valid question since that is what was written.

    Based on that post, I thought maybe there was an internet mob complaining about trans people using male or female public washrooms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ltrandazzo View Post
    Yep. He's a troll. He pops up every once in a while to post contrary bullshit.
    “Oh he doesn’t think the way I do -the right way- therefore he must be a troll.”

    Brilliant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theimage13 View Post
    This video was all over the news. When it surfaced, I couldn't go to any of my regular outlets without seeing it for several days in a row.
    I sure didn't see it on the tv news, and it was immediately forgotten

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    Quote Originally Posted by tremolo View Post
    “Oh he doesn’t think the way I do -the right way- therefore he must be a troll.”

    Brilliant.
    You've posted enough suggestively - if not blatantly - sexist bullshit on this board, that at best you're a troll.

    *back to ignoring*

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    Quote Originally Posted by halo eighteen View Post
    You've posted enough suggestively - if not blatantly - sexist bullshit on this board, that at best you're a troll.
    Sure, hon; whatever love says.

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    Get back on topic, folks. R Kelly and drake are trash.

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    Show me the way, please. You cleary have it all figured out.

    I wonder how high above us you can levitate.

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    CLEARLY, you have set the bar so very low I don’t even have to leave my feet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tremolo View Post
    Show me the way, please. You cleary have it all figured out.

    I wonder how high above us you can levitate.
    If you're not an EtS troll, then surely you'd know by now that several responses like this in a row (and the ensuing facepalms from two admins), coupled with a low participation rate overall, means you're close to being banned right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbie solo View Post
    If you're not an EtS troll, then surely you'd know by now that several responses like this in a row (and the ensuing facepalms from two admins), coupled with a low participation rate overall, means you're close to being banned right?
    Banned for what? I try to keep it classy and not insult people, but I admit that it’s not always the case.

    It’s a very touchy subject, I get it, but it doesn’t cease to amaze me how some people her would rather insult and offend, while patting themselves on the back... how is that supposed to lead to some kind of mutual understanding? There doesn’t seem to be a desire for an actual conversation other than that one going on between people who agree with each other. There is no room for debate whatsoever.

    The ironic thing is that it’s that attitude that ends up creating negative responses. Why not being constructive and work towards something and help people understand certain things instead of being so angry and destructive? How are more people supposed to learn, grow and follow you if the first reaction to any question is to insult?

    My first question was valid. And no, I was not trolling as some people here choose to see it. I shouldn’t have to explain myself, but here I go:

    I do not follow news. Not on tv, not on the radio, not online. Mostly because when I had the news widget on my phone activated, all
    I got in the morning was bad news. And i noticed how going down that rabbit hole had absolutely ZERO positive impact in my life, au contraire.

    So, yeah, I’m disconnected from that whole washroom debate, and the original post that i quoted was written in a way that would lead anyone who doesn’t follow the subject to believe that there are morons out there trying to keep trans people from using public washrooms (which is stupid, but hey, it wouldn’t be surprising).

    So there you go. My mistake was not being up to date on the public washroom debate and reading a poorly written post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tremolo View Post
    My mistake was not being up to date on the public washroom debate
    slow clap for you, my friend. This is the correct response. If you have any opinions about gender and bathroom assignments, feel free to continue the discussion. But don't expect people to cater to your ignorance on the subject. Especially one that is a hot button topic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweeterthan View Post
    slow clap for you, my friend. This is the correct response. If you have any opinions about gender and bathroom assignments, feel free to continue the discussion. But don't expect people to cater to your ignorance on the subject. Especially one that is a hot button topic.
    The mistake part was sarcasm. Why would i be expected to be up to date on the subject (or any other for that matter)? Has being insulted ever led you to develop an interest in what the other person is saying? That’s the most backwards way to go at it.

    I never expected anyone to “cater to my ignorance”, that’s a very arrogant statement. “Hot button topic” seems to be synonymous with condescension and a free pass to insult others while looking oh so tolerant and enlightened.

    Just give trans people their own washrooms. Clearly, some people won’t be comfortable around them in the male or female washrooms.

    Of course it’s not as easy, but it will happen anyway, it’s just a matter of time (and money), in the same way that ramps and special washrooms/stalls were installed for people with disabilities cause the existing ones were inaccessible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tremolo View Post
    The mistake part was sarcasm. Why would i be expected to be up to date on the subject (or any other for that matter)?
    Usually, people are held to the high standard that when they talk about shit they are expected to be familiar with the shit they're talking about.

    Just give trans people their own washrooms. Clearly, some people won’t be comfortable around them in the male or female washrooms.



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    Quote Originally Posted by tremolo View Post
    *nonsense*
    Yeah, a "transgeder-only" bathroom is the way to go. Right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tremolo View Post
    I wasn’t trolling, it was a valid question since that is what was written.

    Based on that post, I thought maybe there was an internet mob complaining about trans people using male or female public washrooms.
    There was. Like, for several months. Even crazy people boycotting Target because they installed “family” bathrooms.

    But you can use Google, right?

    Type “transgender bathroom controversy” into Google and you’ll get a plethora of hits that will inform you.

    See also this lawsuit: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/22/u...bathrooms.html

    And see this: https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5...b0511db3e52825

    Providing separate restrooms won’t and can’t happen primarily because of the cost. Even ADA-compliant restrooms are within existing restrooms and are not required of all establishments unless certain other criteria are first met. Requiring separate ADA or trans restrooms could put many establishments out of business. Plus, handicapped and trans people don’t WANT this burden. The option of an additional “Family” restroom has worked well for many municipalities and facilities because it fits for mothers with young boy children, fathers with young girl children, as well as trans individuals, all of whom wish to feel safe.
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    Well if anything this thread is a good way of finding out who i should be ignoring, so that's something.

    Back to R Kelly, is he EVER going to go down for all this stuff? This has been talked about for decades now and it just feels like he is untouchable to a certain extant...it's maddening!

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    Gillette took some initiative... Men, we need to get our shit together...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dvdglss View Post
    Gillette took some initiative... Men, we need to get our shit together...
    Maybe I shouldn't be commenting on this yet because I haven't actually seen the ads. But here's what I've gathered just from headlines:

    -Gillette comes out with ad saying toxic masculinity is just that, and asks guys to not be awful. I'm guessing nowhere in the ad does it claim that "literally all men are terrible and immediately need to become monks".
    -Toxic guys get super offended by it, starting screaming and crying that it's a "war on men" (fuck right off with that shit, losers), and promise to boycott P&G (good luck; go take a look at a list of every brand they own)
    -Non-toxic guys applaud Gillette for taking a corporate stance.

    Is that about what's happening here?

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