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    Ok. I have to say something. Let me make it clear: I pretty much can't stand Louis CK and have always been disgusted by him, and wasn't surprised by what he did at all.
    And I'd probably say something REAL fucked up to him if I ever ran into him.
    And I REALLY don't want to hear his new "edgy" jokes. Dude is fucking disgusting. He's a racist and a sexual deviant.

    BUT

    I'm with @Bachy . Does he still have the RIGHT to work?

    I guess he does, right?

    I think the question is SHOULD he, isn't it?

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    I don't understand the idea of having a 'right' to a job? Nobody has a right to a job surely? It's better that people are in work but you can't force a company to hire someone?

    I don't see anyone saying he should be forced not to work, just that they wish he'd fuck off? Fair enough

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    Quote Originally Posted by WorzelG View Post
    I don't understand the idea of having a 'right' to a job? Nobody has a right to a job surely? It's better that people are in work but you can't force a company to hire someone?

    I don't see anyone saying he should be forced not to work, just that they wish he'd fuck off? Fair enough
    oh yeah, I CERTAINLY wish he'd fuck off.
    The question WAS raised, however, as to whether or not he has the right to work, in those words.

    And he does.

    Perhaps he shouldn't.

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    Hey, so upon rewatching the weird ass Spacey video a few times, something crossed my mind:

    Could he be threatening to out OTHER people, other preadators? Could that be what he meant about "the truth coming out?" Because SURELY he's not claiming to be INNOCENT at this point, is he?

    Or, is it just some sort of last dance, wherein he's turning this shit into some sort of dark theater project because he wants to act again?

    Idk. But the idea of it being a threat, or a warning of some kind, about outing others: this fascinates me. What if he's about to pull the curtain up on Hollywood pedophilia?

    I know the chance is slim, but good god, that video is fucking weird, and SOMETHING was going through his head that made him decide to create it.

    Do you guys have any ideas? It's just SO strange.

    Edit: also, the video has over 210,000 likes and about 60,000 dislikes. HOLY SHIT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by elevenism View Post
    I know the chance is slim, but good god, that video is fucking weird, and SOMETHING was going through his head that made him decide to create it.
    Pure hubris.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRoswell View Post
    Pure hubris.
    You think? If so, that's...just, wow. I guess that's the most likely answer, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elevenism View Post
    You think?
    I do. He thinks he can win the public over with charm. That's why you see him doing idiotic videos in character and buying pizza for paparazzi guys. He wants people to see him as a good guy and a good actor instead of the dude being charged with sexual assault.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRoswell View Post
    I do. He thinks he can win the public over with charm. That's why you see him doing idiotic videos in character and buying pizza for paparazzi guys. He wants people to see him as a good guy and a good actor instead of the dude being charged with sexual assault.
    what's crazy is the like to dislike ratio in the vid. It's between 3 and 4 to 1 last time I checked.

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    This basically is where I stand on the Louis CK situation:


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    Surprised there's been no discussion of Surving R. Kelly on Lifetime. It's a must watch, and completely insane what he has gotten away with. And no, it's not just rehashing the old news. There's lots of new things, and many details you and I prolly didnt know about the older, well documented stuff. The interviews with his victims are captivating. This motherfucker has to go down now I hope. The groundswell this weekend and today has been major.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbie solo View Post
    Surprised there's been no discussion of Surving R. Kelly on Lifetime. It's a must watch, and completely insane what he has gotten away with. And no, it's not just rehashing the old news. There's lots of new things, and many details you and I prolly didnt know about the older, well documented stuff. The interviews with his victims are captivating. This motherfucker has to go down now I hope. The groundswell this weekend and today has been major.
    I doubt it. This worthless human being has never been snubbed any opportunities or fame after numerous dastardly accounts being surfaced. It'll take a big wave to capsize his boat.

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    I hear you Space. On the macro scale and over the total course of time, you're pretty much right. I'd say since 2017 things at least on the industry side have changed dramatically for him though at least. Very few radio stations play him anymore (I'd imagine none after this weekend), and Spotify took him off their playlists. It's pathetic that they & others won't just drop his music entirely though. And he hasn't been able to book any shows since last spring, and most if not all those shows got cancelled. Sad that his social media isn't being cancelled by those companies too. Hope things start to shift on the legal side now, b/c that's really what matters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbie solo View Post
    Surprised there's been no discussion of Surving R. Kelly on Lifetime. It's a must watch, and completely insane what he has gotten away with. And no, it's not just rehashing the old news. There's lots of new things, and many details you and I prolly didnt know about the older, well documented stuff. The interviews with his victims are captivating. This motherfucker has to go down now I hope. The groundswell this weekend and today has been major.
    Jim DeRogatis here in Chicago has been on Kelly’s ass for a while.

    July of 2017: https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article...ult#.emZ0am62Y

    December of 2000: https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/su...teenage-girls/

    Kelly’s ex wife Andrea has been speaking out, too. https://www.billboard.com/articles/n...kelly-the-view

    Nobody was BELIEVING DeRo or these women. Until now, hopefully. He has to be stopped.

    When Dave Chapelle did that “Pee on You” vid, that was serious shit.
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    Two women sexually assaulted a trans woman in a North Carolina bathroom

    But no, keep telling me how letting trans people use bathrooms is a danger to all the good cis people of the world. Ugh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theimage13 View Post
    Two women sexually assaulted a trans woman in a North Carolina bathroom

    But no, keep telling me how letting trans people use bathrooms is a danger to all the good cis people of the world. Ugh.
    Where are trans people banned from using bathrooms?

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    Here's drake fondling a girl he, at first, doesn't know is underage. Then, he finds out her age, says he loved the way her breasts felt against his chest, and kisses her.

    We all knew about R Kelly. We've known since his marriage to a 15 year old Aaliyah in, what, 94? Then there was the pissing thing and the child porn. Yet, he remained a superstar. NOW, we're being told to get mad. I was already fucking mad.

    But why aren't we collectively mad at Drake? Why isn't this video all over the news? Where is the investigation into Drake?

    I feel like certain people are still being shielded and enabled, with the media and production companies being complicit, and it's PROBABLY about MONEY.

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    It's not even remotely the same. It's a bad look for sure, but he was alot younger, more immature and much less famous at the time. Not excusing it, just giving in context. He's def. wrong for doing anything he did there. If this video ends up as one example among more of similar actions, then he should go down. But for now I'd move on, or take an apology from Drake at most.

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    Quote Originally Posted by playwithfire View Post
    Are you trolling with this question
    Correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbie solo View Post
    It's not even remotely the same. It's a bad look for sure, but he was alot younger, more immature and much less famous at the time. Not excusing it, just giving in context. He's def. wrong for doing anything he did there. If this video ends up as one example among more of similar actions, then he should go down. But for now I'd move on, or take an apology from Drake at most.
    i guess it's more that I'm frustrated that R Kelly got away with all that shit for so long, but now everyone is outraged. I don't think it's just the times, either.
    It's mind boggling, and, again, I swear, I think it's about money. Like, the industry shielded him, like "just everyone pretend this isn't happening; he's still marketable."
    I can't imagine lady gaga didn't know about his history when she recorded that track with him she's apologizing for now.

    It seems, idk, orchestrated somehow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by playwithfire View Post
    Are you trolling with this question and angling at some sort of "well if they have to use the bathroom for a different gender THEY CAN STILL PEE so they AREN'T BANNED" or are you actually unfamiliar with the easily googled bathroom legislation? http://lmgtfy.com/?q=trans+bathroom+ban
    Yep. He's a troll. He pops up every once in a while to post contrary bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elevenism View Post

    Here's drake fondling a girl he, at first, doesn't know is underage. Then, he finds out her age, says he loved the way her breasts felt against his chest, and kisses her.

    We all knew about R Kelly. We've known since his marriage to a 15 year old Aaliyah in, what, 94? Then there was the pissing thing and the child porn. Yet, he remained a superstar. NOW, we're being told to get mad. I was already fucking mad.

    But why aren't we collectively mad at Drake? Why isn't this video all over the news? Where is the investigation into Drake?

    I feel like certain people are still being shielded and enabled, with the media and production companies being complicit, and it's PROBABLY about MONEY.
    This video was all over the news. When it surfaced, I couldn't go to any of my regular outlets without seeing it for several days in a row.

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    Quote Originally Posted by playwithfire View Post
    Are you trolling with this question and angling at some sort of "well if they have to use the bathroom for a different gender THEY CAN STILL PEE so they AREN'T BANNED" or are you actually unfamiliar with the easily googled bathroom legislation? http://lmgtfy.com/?q=trans+bathroom+ban
    I wasn’t trolling, it was a valid question since that is what was written.

    Based on that post, I thought maybe there was an internet mob complaining about trans people using male or female public washrooms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ltrandazzo View Post
    Yep. He's a troll. He pops up every once in a while to post contrary bullshit.
    “Oh he doesn’t think the way I do -the right way- therefore he must be a troll.”

    Brilliant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theimage13 View Post
    This video was all over the news. When it surfaced, I couldn't go to any of my regular outlets without seeing it for several days in a row.
    I sure didn't see it on the tv news, and it was immediately forgotten

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    Quote Originally Posted by tremolo View Post
    “Oh he doesn’t think the way I do -the right way- therefore he must be a troll.”

    Brilliant.
    You've posted enough suggestively - if not blatantly - sexist bullshit on this board, that at best you're a troll.

    *back to ignoring*

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    Quote Originally Posted by halo eighteen View Post
    You've posted enough suggestively - if not blatantly - sexist bullshit on this board, that at best you're a troll.
    Sure, hon; whatever love says.

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    Get back on topic, folks. R Kelly and drake are trash.

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    Show me the way, please. You cleary have it all figured out.

    I wonder how high above us you can levitate.

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    CLEARLY, you have set the bar so very low I don’t even have to leave my feet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tremolo View Post
    Show me the way, please. You cleary have it all figured out.

    I wonder how high above us you can levitate.
    If you're not an EtS troll, then surely you'd know by now that several responses like this in a row (and the ensuing facepalms from two admins), coupled with a low participation rate overall, means you're close to being banned right?

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