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I looked that story up and, my god that woman’s life was tragic. I don’t understand how it can be legally possible to gain guardianship of a teenager as a rock star who clearly doesn’t have their best interests at heart
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The Justin Roilland thing reminds me of John K, creator of Ren and Stimpy...except times have changed, and now we have the internet.
My whole family gathered around the tv to watch Ren and Stimpy. When John K. was unceremoniously fired from his own show, I bitched about it to anyone who would listen. I'd tell people to boycott the new episodes, and that the John K episodes were the only TRUE Ren and Stimpy.
YEARS LATER, I learned that he was "let go" for OPENLY having like, fifteen year old GFs and such.
It was kind of an open secret in animation land. Iirc, the levee finally broke when John started looking through his fan mail and finding underage female cartoonist/fans, and flying them out to LA, promising to further their careers, and then...you know.
There are whole documentary length breakdowns of that situation on YouTube, now, of course.
There are parallels between the two shows if you think about it: ground-breaking, influential...contain sex jokes.
I damn sure felt like an idiot for defending John K. so vociferously all throughout high school, once I learned why he was actually separated from his IP.
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When the news broke about Justin, it reminded me of John K. right away, too. I was also a huge fan of Ren & Stimpy growing up and the classic, older episodes were always my favorite. Both shows had their creator (in Rick & Morty's case, one of two co-creators) ousted from the show and continued on without them. At least in Ren & Stimpy's case, John K. didn't voice the main characters, though. We have yet to see how well this plays out for Rick & Morty, but Ren & Stimpy was never quite the same after John K.'s dismissal and I can't imagine Rick & Morty's fate will be much different.Originally Posted by elevenism
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He voiced Ren actually. Billy West took over when he was fired.
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John K did the voice, but Billy West actually did Ren's screaming. Originally Billy was supposed to do both, but John K ended up doing Ren's voice because it was determined (I have no idea by who) that it would be too much for Billy. Billy did a good job taking over, John K's Ren had a bit more Peter Lorre in it.
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Interesting, I thought it was always Billy West! You learn something new every day.
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Sometimes I feel like...damn. How do I put this, without angering anyone?
Cartoons have a sexual history, in general, from Tijuana Bibles, to Betty Boop, to Fritz the Cat, to the Disney Renaissance dirty easter eggs, to art one can buy at Furry conventions.
Perhaps it has something to do with the fact that, with a cartoon, an artist can create anything. Reality doesn't matter: that's often the point.
And humans are driven by sex.
So, for the above reasons, I feel like art of being a cartoonist has attracted some artists who aren't exactly model citizens.
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https://www.latimes.com/entertainmen...an-rachel-wood
Ashley Morgan Smithline, one of Manson's accusers, is now claiming Evan Rachel Wood manipulated her into lying. I did not expect this development.
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That may cast doubt onto two of his accusers, but aren't there still like ten others?
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I hate the fact that everything has become so polarised now - I never approved of the circus that was the Depp / Heard trial and making it public and a big social media show.
The entertainment industry needs to clean up its act (both music and film) but it needs to be without reference to these big cases, particularly such old ones. I'm sure if the Manson stuff comes to nothing then the industry will feel able to carry on with however they've acted before which is quite sad. There needs to be some lines of command (do companies in music have HR? I've no idea) where you can report this and individuals shouldn't have so much power. But buggered if i know how to change anything. Are there groupies anymore? I find it hard to believe there aren't
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