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  1. #31
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    Vancouver, BC
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boots View Post
    There are a lot of people who think "Baby It's Cold Outside" is rapey.
    There is a movement to have that song retired from the radio.
    Here are the lyrics. You be the judge.

    (I really can’t stay) But, baby, it’s cold outside
    (I’ve got to go away) But, baby, it’s cold outside
    (This evening has been) Been hoping that you’d drop in
    (So very nice) I’ll hold your hands they’re just like ice

    (My mother will start to worry) Beautiful, what’s your hurry
    (My father will be pacing the floor) Listen to the fireplace roar
    (So really I’d better scurry) Beautiful, please don’t hurry
    (Well, maybe just half a drink more) Put some records on while I pour

    (The neighbors might think) Baby, it’s bad out there
    (Say what’s in this drink) No cabs to be had out there
    (I seem to be in) Your eyes are like starlight now
    (Some crazy spell) I’ll take your hat, your hair looks swell

    (I ought to say no, no, no, sir) Mind if I move in closer
    (At least I’m gonna say that I tried) What’s the sense of hurting my pride
    (I really can’t stay) Baby, don’t hold out
    [Both] Oh, but it’s cold outside

    (I simply must go) Baby, it’s cold outside
    (The answer is no) Baby, it’s cold outside
    (The welcome has been) How lucky that you dropped in
    (So nice and warm) Look out the window at that storm….
    “I OUGHT to say no, no, no, sir” (talking about what’s appropriate so the person is not seen in a certain way by family and neighbours)
    ”At least I’m gonna sat that I tried” (making a statement about future actions to cover this person’s ass from family/social repercussions)

    the character can leave at anytime...

    the only suspect point is the characterization of the drink perhaps being spiked..... as for taking a drink... it’s the person’s responsibility to accept or reject it.. there is a time to be concerned about social niceties, but you must always have self-preservation in the back of your mind.

    I like the idea of removing problematic songs though

    HOWEVER.... how are we to judge lyrics just from subjectivity? LOOK:

    "Big Man With A Gun"

    I am a big man
    (yes I am)
    and I have a big gun
    got me a big old Dick and I
    I like to have fun
    held against your forehead
    I'll make you suck it
    maybe I'll put a hole in your head
    you know, just for the fuck of it
    I can reduce you if I want
    I can devour
    I'm hard as fucking steel, and I’ve got the power
    I'm every inch a man, and I'll show you somehow
    me and my fucking gun
    nothing can stop me now
    shoot shoot shoot shoot shoot
    I'm going to come all over you
    me and my fucking gun
    me and my fucking gun

    For songs to get a fair hearing, we will need to hear what the writer of the song says it means? Or do we just go by the content of the lyrics?
    Last edited by cashpiles (closed); 12-27-2017 at 12:49 PM.

  2. #32
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    I mean, let's just censor art while we're at it?

  3. #33
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    Western New York
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    Quote Originally Posted by r_z View Post
    I mean, let's just censor art while we're at it?
    You've never heard of a radio edit? Refusing a place for art isn't censoring it.

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