Cold and Black and Infinite Fall Tour - 2018 Live Tour Discussion

[m0reta]

The real question on my mind is how nuch does Atticus get to contribute now on the setlist??

ATTICUS PLAY ALL THE BOOPY BEEPY STUFF!!!

[implanted_microchip]

Alessandro has said before that setlists are entirely up to Trent although I’m sure everyone probably offers suggestions early on.

[loopcloses]

I actually see This Isn't the Place working really well. I think the hardest songs to transition would've been The Lovers and The Background World, which have weirdly been staples in the past year of shows, and Dear World. TITP would slide right into that slot for longer atmospheric songs mid-set or early in the encore.

I think my main wishlist item is probably an extended version of The Background World to include some live version of the outro, at the end of the main set or the encore (or even before Hurt). The live version of Black Noise was one of the coolest fucking things Trent's ever put together and I'd love to see something like that here.

And generally speaking, something different to close out the set. It doesn't even have to be anything new, a return of the In This Twilight/Zero Sum coda would be awesome.

As for shit that almost certainly ain't happening... In Two, Demon Seed, Ghosts Piggy, What Comes Back, anything resembling the Ghosts interludes from LITS, Head Down, Vessel, The Four of Us Are Dying..

[FeelBetterINC]

I would love to see the remaining unplayed songs from NTAE and AV get debuted this year. The only song I could see being difficult to fit into a set is This Isn’t the Place, but they managed to make Way Out Is Through work in festival setlists, so they’ve pulled weirder shit off before. I’ve seen Somewhat Damaged, Copy of A and Branches/Bones all open shows and Branches/Bones is the best opener of the three. It’s really that good live.

Really? Although this time around, I want to see Branches, but the solo leading into Copy of A with each part being added at made in America was absolutely amazing.

[FeelBetterINC]

I was lucky though. Saw the "aggressive" set in Camden for NIN/Soundgarden. I was bullshitting with some friends expecting an intro/ copy of a to get me to move to my seat then I just hear "so impressed with all you dooooooo" and immediately panicked and ditched everyone and ran to my seat.

[Lerxto]

NIN just added the INCHEON PENTAPORT ROCK FESTIVAL in Korea to the tour.

It seems odd they spend a week in August visiting Korea, Thailand, & Japan and not schedule anything for Australia. Are there any festivals happening around that week?

Yeah, usually an Australian leg happens just after/before SE Asian leg. I know a guy who's traveling from Australia to Japan to see NIN this tour. Too bad nothing's been announced yet.
For me, I was going to attend just two shows in Japan but I'm now changing my plans to go visit Korea too. August's going to be great!
MBV + NIN in one stage.. it doesn't get any better.

[sick among the pure]

It's so hard to pick a favorite opener, I've seen some amazing ones. Mr. Self Destruct at my very first show stands out for sure, as did Now I'm Nothing into Terrible Lie on the Wave Goodbye tour. Copy of a at Made In America, after going to the show without having heard it was a great experience, but I don't know if it's because of the song or just everything. Don't get me started on Pinion > Wish > Last in Chicago when I thought we were getting Broken all the way through.

Now best CLOSING song? Easy, In This Twilight.

[Lerxto]

Now best CLOSING song? Easy, In This Twilight.

If only the tension tour version with backup singers had the zero-sum piano outro ending...

[bobbie solo]

NIN just added the INCHEON PENTAPORT ROCK FESTIVAL in Korea to the tour.

It seems odd they spend a week in August visiting Korea, Thailand, & Japan and not schedule anything for Australia. Are there any festivals happening around that week?

I simply cannot believe how many shows he's doing this year after saying over and over less than a year ago how he wasn't going to do traditional touring anymore.

[sonic_discord]

I simply cannot believe how many shows he's doing this year after saying over and over less than a year ago how he wasn't going to do traditional touring anymore.

I've had the exact same thought. I'm sure Mariqueen has had this thought as well. Haha!

[center27j]

Don't get me started on Pinion > Wish > Last in Chicago when I thought we were getting Broken all the way through.

yep, there too....so great, but also so disappointing.

[center27j]

I simply cannot believe how many shows he's doing this year after saying over and over less than a year ago how he wasn't going to do traditional touring anymore.

pretty simple, $$$$...im sure his wife doesnt mind either once she sees the checks

[BRoswell]

I simply cannot believe how many shows he's doing this year after saying over and over less than a year ago how he wasn't going to do traditional touring anymore.

Traditional to Trent is touring for a year or two, which he recently said he doesn't intend to do anymore.

[implanted_microchip]

I simply cannot believe how many shows he's doing this year after saying over and over less than a year ago how he wasn't going to do traditional touring anymore.

It's got me convinced we won't be getting a lot of NIN shows for a while again after this. He's already back to saying things like "if we tour again" and is talking about touring like he hates it. The original plan of doing less shows but more frequently is disappearing quickly.

[ManBurning]

Now best CLOSING song? Easy, In This Twilight.

ANYTHING but Hurt! It's fine if he still wants to play that song in his set. But maybe playing it before going "off stage" and coming back for an Encore would be a better placement of that song. I'd rather end the night on a high note. Hurt seems like such a downer ending. I'd even take closing with HLAH over Hurt.

I simply cannot believe how many shows he's doing this year after saying over and over less than a year ago how he wasn't going to do traditional touring anymore.

I know. Which frightens me to be honest. I don't want him burning out and "taking NIN away" for 3-5 years again. I was digging this "new and improved" touring schedule playing a few gigs here and there every 4-6 months. So much for that idea. Seems like he started booking a few shows and then it just snowballed into 1 big giant goddamn tour as usual.

[kaydraven]

It's got me convinced we won't be getting a lot of NIN shows for a while again after this. He's already back to saying things like "if we tour again" and is talking about touring like he hates it. The original plan of doing less shows but more frequently is disappearing quickly.

See that's what I'm thinking too. That's why I really wanted to get tickets. I missed out on the shows with Soundgarden. So I wanted to make sure I caught them this time!

[thefragile_jake]

Now best CLOSING song? Easy, In This Twilight.

I may be in the minority here, but I am not a fan of In This Twilight whatsoever. Even though it's a staple for the end of the night, I'm still okay with Hurt closing the show over that track.

[Pbgut]

I guess it's never been played but Underneath It All would make a great, intense, brief closing song that could mirror the short possible opening song Branches/Bones.

As far as a downtempo, downbeat closer, what about Right Where It Belongs?

[NotoriousTIMP]

Give me "Closer to God" on this tour, please...

[snichols]

Give me "Closer to God" on this tour, please...

i will lose my shit if closer to god is played on one of the chicago dates. also i need somewhat damaged.

[thefragile_jake]

Give me "Closer to God" on this tour, please...

I'm with you!

I would love for them to bring back the Further Down the Spiral version of Piggy in the (Nothing Can Stop Me Now) mix. Saw that in 2009 on the NIN|JA tour and it was awesome.

[botley]

I wanna hear them bust out the Alt. mix of "Hearts Filthy Lesson" (originally by TR and Dave Ogilvie with Vrenna et cetera).

[AThousandDaysBefore]

Do you expect a new mix song as In this twilight with zero sum, closer/only time , Sanctified/sunspots in this tour?

[eversonpoe]

ANYTHING but Hurt! It's fine if he still wants to play that song in his set. But maybe playing it before going "off stage" and coming back for an Encore would be a better placement of that song. I'd rather end the night on a high note. Hurt seems like such a downer ending. I'd even take closing with HLAH over Hurt.

i've always felt like "love is not enough" would be a great way to close out the night

[somewhat_]

i've always felt like "love is not enough" would be a great way to close out the night

That would be an interesting choice, especially since it was the opener for almost the entire fall 2005 with teeth tour. I quite enjoy that song live and certainly wouldn’t mind it making a return.

[implanted_microchip]

I'd like it if they did no covers, they have so many original songs that never get live play or don't get enough of it that to take up a slot in what are typically only 90 minute slots with someone else's song can feel like a lost opportunity. The I Can't Give Everything Away cover was a special thing and beautiful, but that's a rare exception. Unless if it's some special tribute along those lines or having a guest appearance like Gary Numan, I'll always prefer they stick to original material.

All I hope for realistically is that they are looser with setlists this year (as opposed to how rigid they got in 2014 once they came back from Europe) and that we see a few surprises/rarities or debuts pop up. They have such an extensive back catalog and so many songs that fans love, since they won't have to cater to the festival market and these shows will be more diehard affairs than big arena crowds I don't see why they wouldn't change things up a bit. I can't imagine that it's fun to have to do the same set every single night.

If we're talking about things we really hope to see that are totally unrealistic, I know it'll never happen but if they busted out Demon Seed, 10 Miles High or Underneath It All, my head would explode.

If they use any song from With Teeth to end a show I want it to be Right Where It Belongs, a song that really, really needs to make a comeback this year, preferably at a show I'm going to.

[AThousandDaysBefore]

I think this tour is going to be like wave goodbye tour from 2009
Every night a different setlist, rare songs, and for me this is perfect, i really want to see Nin with a super production as Lights in the sky, Fragile, Tension tour, but wave goodbye tour had really great things and if this tour is similar for me is perfect , Nin has so many songs that need to be played more

[AThousandDaysBefore]

What about end a show with leaving hope?

[witte]

I think this tour is going to be like wave goodbye tour from 2009
Every night a different setlist, rare songs, and for me this is perfect, i really want to see Nin with a super production as Lights in the sky, Fragile, Tension tour, but wave goodbye tour had really great things and if this tour is similar for me is perfect , Nin has so many songs that need to be played more

Then they need to start with the rehearsals asap. Still 2 weeks to go. Looking at the social media I don't see any movement... I hope you're right, but I don't think so.

[streetman]

Then they need to start with the rehearsals asap. Still 2 weeks to go. Looking at the social media I don't see any movement... I hope you're right, but I don't think so.

They've probably been rehearsing for a while. They don't need to post it on social media. Why would they???