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    2018 was probably my best year for concerts as well! I saw the majority of my favorites — A Perfect Circle (x2), Tool, Alice in Chains, Avenged Sevenfold, Ghost, Cake, Ben Folds, Smashing Pumpkins, Metallica, NIN (x2), Atmosphere, Prof (x3), Foo Fighters — all in one year. I think I've seen pretty much all of my favorites between 2017 and this year, it's been a good 3 years in a row, really. I kinda wish I had caught the Manson/Zombie show in Fargo (I've never seen either), but I would have had to drive there and go by myself because none of my friends are fans of MM. It sounds like he's been mostly terrible live the last several years anyway, so it would have been a gamble. Did anyone catch the Fargodome show and if so, was he "good" that night?

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    I sometimes feel like an outsider here because the only time I've seen MM (last year in Europe), he did a pretty decent show. Of course nowhere hear the level of his golden years, but good nethertheless. He was perfectly sober, didn't slur mumble through songs and even hit a few high notes I wasn't expecting him to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fillow View Post
    I sometimes feel like an outsider here because the only time I've seen MM (last year in Europe), he did a pretty decent show. Of course nowhere hear the level of his golden years, but good nethertheless. He was perfectly sober, didn't slur mumble through songs and even hit a few high notes I wasn't expecting him to.
    He's essentially a wild card now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Triggermine View Post
    He's essentially a wild card now.
    Accurate


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    Quote Originally Posted by fillow View Post
    I sometimes feel like an outsider here because the only time I've seen MM (last year in Europe), he did a pretty decent show. Of course nowhere hear the level of his golden years, but good nethertheless. He was perfectly sober, didn't slur mumble through songs and even hit a few high notes I wasn't expecting him to.
    A. I couldn’t resist; and
    B. This is an excellent cover.


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    ^^ literally the first thing I thought (at first I thought he meant that he did the song live at that show and I was floored...then I re-read it. Whoops.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by muad'nin View Post
    A. I couldn’t resist; and
    B. This is an excellent cover.
    From the soundtrack that also included this;


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    Just got this today and it sounds great! Tracklisting is correct to, as I heard some boots are mislabeled.


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    Quote Originally Posted by imail724 View Post
    Just got this today and it sounds great! Tracklisting is correct to, as I heard some boots are mislabeled.

    How much did that run ya and where did you get it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tony.parente View Post
    How much did that run ya and where did you get it?
    https://rollinrecs.com/marilyn-manso...ist-superstar/

    Looks like he's out of stock now, but will probably get more soon. Normally $60 but he had a handful with slight cover damage and I managed to snag one for $30. The damage is very minimal so I'm happy with it.

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    Just got my hands on this pink variant of the Holywood bootleg....I'll clean it here soon before playing it and then give a review. The jacket is just like the ACSS jacket but this one actually comes with an insert.

    (sorry for the GIANT photos, imgur doesn't resize them it seems)





    and it seems these do come with the usual bootleg defects...hopefully this doesn't effect play


    The original pressing didn't come with this bonus track, right?

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    Legit question

    Why buy a bootleg of an album on vinyl? Wouldnt the master be the digital version anyway? Im really curious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conan The Barbarian View Post
    Legit question

    Why buy a bootleg of an album on vinyl? Wouldnt the master be the digital version anyway? Im really curious.
    when i sold all my MM albums on discogs last year, i got $200 for my original pressing of Holy Wood, and that was at the low end of what people were asking for it. i'm guessing that's a big factor. (i had bought it at amoeba records in west hollywood in 2002 for $25 and only played it three times)

    also, @NotoriousTIMP you are correct, the original pressing did not have that as a bonus track

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    Quote Originally Posted by NotoriousTIMP View Post
    The original pressing didn't come with this bonus track, right?
    I checked mine and you are correct, no bonus track nor does it have an insert. Then again, as far as an insert is concerned, the damn thing is close to 20 years old and any insert might have been lost in the shuffle. Bootleg or not, its awesome you got a copy of HolyWood.

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    Happy 21st birthday to Mechanical Animals.
    Damn... We're old. I remember buying this record the day it was released like it was yesterday.
    Good times. Great record.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tony.parente View Post
    How much did that run ya and where did you get it?
    If you're still interested, the guy I bought this from just restocked. He's got both mint copies for $50 and cosmetically damaged copies like the one I have for $30.

    https://rollinrecs.com/marilyn-manso...ist-superstar/

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    Quote Originally Posted by imail724 View Post
    If you're still interested, the guy I bought this from just restocked. He's got both mint copies for $50 and cosmetically damaged copies like the one I have for $30.

    https://rollinrecs.com/marilyn-manso...ist-superstar/
    Really debating buying one of his "reissues" of Mechanical Animals, since it doesn't seem like it'll be reprinted anytime soon.

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    MARILYN MANSON To Play Viking Death Metal Singer In 'American Gods' Season 3


    https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/ma...HccZsChUZp4jMU

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninhead View Post
    Really debating buying one of his "reissues" of Mechanical Animals, since it doesn't seem like it'll be reprinted anytime soon.
    Iím considering this too. Do this guys pressings sound good?


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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsChrisRoss View Post
    Iím considering this too. Do this guys pressings sound good?


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    He doesn't press them, he just sells them. But I found the same copy of MA at my local shop and it sounds pretty great to me. The only minor annoyance is since it uses the CD sequence, there are some crossfading issues between sides. But as far as the overall sound quality, I have some legit albums that sound worse.

    And I only listened to AS once so far, but I think that one might sound even better. Helps that that album has a dirtier sound though, so maybe it can just hide it's flaws better than the crisp production of MA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conan The Barbarian View Post
    Legit question

    Why buy a bootleg of an album on vinyl? Wouldnt the master be the digital version anyway? Im really curious.

    Correct. The vinyl bootleg would be vastly inferior to CD or even 320 mp3. It's like a worse version of dubbing a copy of your friend's cassette onto your own. Not to mention you have to specifically master for vinyl vs digital.

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    Haha, damn... You know a Manson show is bad even when the Facebook comments are shitting on it...

    Manson played the Aftershock festival tonight, and they shared a photo on FB of him and the comments are amazing!

    "Manson was terrible, shouldn’t have been even allowed to perform in that state"

    "This is why I won't pay to see him anymore. Drunkass gong show."

    "I didn't realize we were going to see a comedy show."

    "For the love of rock, please don't bring Marilyn Manson back.
    This is the fifth time I've seen him, and my second time seeing him at Aftershock. Every single time, he's always drunk, stumbling, and slurring through his songs. Tonight was embarrassing.
    There's so many other great artists that deserve to be near the headline position over him."

    "How drunk was he?? My first time seeing him...sadly, not impressed ..left early"

    "Maybe let a band that deserves to be there, that wants to interact with their audience and has their crap together take the time slot. I've seen Manson at least 8 times now and each performance gets worse and worse."

    and so on and so on and so on...


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    Someone please remind me that I shouldn't buy tickets for the LA gig....someone....please.....anyone....
    I hope to god you never bought tickets to that LA gig... and if you're still on the fence and need further reassurance, just let these comments speak for themselves.

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    Found a recording of The Beautiful People from Aftershock. It's from a cell phone so you can't see much, but you can definitely tell that he's had too much to drink or something.

    I feel like I'm beating a dead horse at this point, but it's just frustrating to witness.

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    Oh I agree. In the comments of my recording from a few months ago, a few people tried defending him, saying "oh he was sick" or "he doesn't sound that bad"

    Dude is a train wreck

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    Dude needs help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eachpassingphase View Post
    Found a recording of The Beautiful People from Aftershock. It's from a cell phone so you can't see much, but you can definitely tell that he's had too much to drink or something.

    I feel like I'm beating a dead horse at this point, but it's just frustrating to witness.

    Wow. I can't listen to that. That's bad for even Marilyn Manson.
    Someone a few pages ago compared him to a drunk doing drunk Karaoke covering Manson but... it's even worse than that, I'd take the drunk at Karaoke over this.
    Even the crowd looks very unimpressed as the phone pans around.
    Guy needs to throw in the towel, and fast.

    And to think, there are nut jobs out there (I've seen them post online) that say Manson is in way better shape these days than Trent... Hahahahahaha! Comedy gold right there.
    They must be huffing the same chloroform soaked rag that Manson is before his shows if they think Manson is on the same playing field if not higher than Trent in 2019, lol.

    Someone needs to get this guy into rehab. If James Hetfield can go back and admit he has a problem, he should send an open invitation for Brian Warner to join him before it's too late.
    At least with Metallica, the live show didn't suffer like this does.
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    His current state is so infuriating on a number of levels, but in particular it's making me question all the posters, all the countless hours I spent as a teenager repeatedly listening to those first few albums.

    Was that all a waste? Was he actually never an amazing artist or was I just brainwashed into believing it? I mean you guys have no idea, my bedroom walls were plastered with MM posters, some of which were blacklight lol.

    This is fucking with my head and making me retroactively assess whether or not all those years of being obsessed with this person/band were in vain. Major ugh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by halo eighteen View Post
    His current state is so infuriating on a number of levels, but in particular it's making me question all the posters, all the countless hours I spent as a teenager repeatedly listening to those first few albums.

    Was that all a waste? Was he actually never an amazing artist or was I just brainwashed into believing it? I mean you guys have no idea, my bedroom walls were plastered with MM posters, some of which were blacklight lol.

    This is fucking with my head and making me retroactively assess whether or not all those years of being obsessed with this person/band were in vain. Major ugh.
    I think youíre over thinking it. If he brought you solace and got you through some rough times back then, no reason to think it a waste.

    Kind of like Green Day is for me. I grew up on Kerplunk, Dookie, Insomniac, Nimrod, Warning, and American Idiot pushed it. Now, their state is in a much better way than Mansons, but I canít say I can get into anything theyíve done post American Idiot. Every time they release something new I have hopes itíll bring me back but it just doesnít. Of course, I donít look back on all my hours and money spent with them as a waste.

    Point is, he gave you something during that period of your life you valued/value. Iíd just let that be and accept him for what he is now, which might not be something you like.


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    Quote Originally Posted by halo eighteen View Post
    His current state is so infuriating on a number of levels, but in particular it's making me question all the posters, all the countless hours I spent as a teenager repeatedly listening to those first few albums.

    Was that all a waste? Was he actually never an amazing artist or was I just brainwashed into believing it? I mean you guys have no idea, my bedroom walls were plastered with MM posters, some of which were blacklight lol.

    This is fucking with my head and making me retroactively assess whether or not all those years of being obsessed with this person/band were in vain. Major ugh.
    Same here. I think we were all like that. My room was covered floor to ceiling with Hit parader and Circus magazine cutouts, had a whole wall devoted to Manson 20 years ago, then it evolved into a NIN wall slowly before it all got taken down, lol. We've all been there.

    Edit: But kinda like @ItsChrisRoss just said, it's just a snapshot of a time in our lives, no sense being embarrassed by it or thinking it was a waste. He generally did get me through some hard times. ACSS, MA and HW are some of the best records out there in the music industry. I don't think it was a mirage or a facade and we were just blinded by the light. You can watch any live show from 1996-2001 or any live interview from back then and tell that he wasn't always like this. Basically, we all grew up and Manson didn't.
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