Al is certainly an addict. But he seems to have it far more under control than mm. I think he pretty much sticks to Coors light at this point in his life.
Saw ministry last summer, and while the glory days are certainly over, the show was still pretty energetic and enjoyable.
Eh, just from concert behavior alone, I wouldn't personally make the leap from "handling lacklustre crowds poorly" to "going to die within the next year." Nobody knows but him how much drugs+stuff he's actually doing, and I think there's far more prosaic explanations for what went down. The NYC vids just look like a slightly more extreme version of what I saw him do in Madison, and while it certainly makes for a poor show, I don't even think I'd call it a "breakdown," massive or not, as many Youtube vids seem to be doing. I'd be more inclined to think that he's just having difficulty dealing with the fact that he's just not as popular as he once was - if you think about the kinds of crowds which used to be genuinely ecstatic to see him, every night, in huge arenas, it'd be no wonder that a half-interested crowd would be distressing. IMO it'd be like him to sort of poke at that wound onstage rather than just getting on with it. I gather from above that his last parent died over the past year too, so I can imagine feeling rather unmoored by the fact that the crowds aren't as stable as he thought, either.
Not excusing the behavior -- as I said a few weeks ago, there's far better ways to deal with an unresponsive crowd than throwing a fit -- but I'm not one to hop on the doomsday train about it. I can't imagine increased internet visibility about these kinds of outcomes at shows is gonna help future shows go well, though. Feels like he's just setting himself up for confrontation (which I suppose wouldn't be out of character).
And now Manson is being accused of sexual harassment/racism on the set of House by Charlyne Yi: http://www.indiewire.com/2018/02/cha...nt-1201930059/
And the hits keep on coming....
Was he groping anyone? Showing his dick? Asking them questions about their sexuality?
This gets so tiring.
But yeah, the man needs help, we all hope he gets it.
Manson just announced as the headliners for Heavy Montreal. Pretty risky if you ask me. Hopefully, he plays a full set without any hiccups.
Last edited by Deepvoid; 02-21-2018 at 04:53 PM.
I feel like those crowds are going to be like a diet version of an ICP show, holy shit.
Has he ever neglected Florida this much on an album cycle before? I think he only did that one festival all the way up in Jacksonville which may as well be another state as far as anything central or south FL is concerned. He usually does a few dates down here. I don't exactly mind considering all I've seen of these shows and not liking HUD at all, but it's still weird.
Looks like now is a good time as ever to use those free LiveNation vouchers to witness a possible Manson shit show.
There was a ton of beef and shit talking on that last tour together. But then they buried the hatchet and said nice things about each other. Whatever this thing is a fucking abortion regardless. Fuck them and fuck Live Nation for proposing this package.
Of course, I could understand Zombie if he needs it for some film project as financing for films (unless you're tied to a studio or hired by one) is very difficult these days.
Oh yeah, I've been using them for the past two years. I think they let you use your vouchers after May when most giant amphitheaters have their summer and early fall schedules good to go. At least, that's how I've noticed it. You can always try and add your voucher code to the check out as well to verify.
Well, if the below builds up steam, something tells me the tour might not get off the ground and just might become a Zombie solo gig:
https://www.glamour.com/story/why-is...an-rachel-wood
Last edited by renton44; 03-06-2018 at 03:17 PM.
what the fuck, how did i not know any of this?
welp...i'm done. not even kidding a little. i'm done with manson.
i will be selling off my manson records. if anyone here wants them, let me know.
https://www.discogs.com/Mar1lyn-Man5...release/239093
https://www.discogs.com/Marilyn-Mans...release/562943
https://www.discogs.com/Marilyn-Mans...elease/6542929
https://www.discogs.com/Marilyn-Mans...elease/6493346
all vinyl & sleeves in VG+ or NM condition. i also have the "dead to the world" VHS.
I always wondered what attracted Manson to ERW as I'm glad she's moved on from that relationship and is in a good place in her life.