Marlin Mansboob
Marlin Mansboob
All these bands touring with Manson, sometimes I think it’s a bit like a bride making her bridesmaids look shit, in comparison they will glow
Better yet, someone needs to make one of those bingo sheets where the different spaces say different things. Like "forgets lyrics to song" , "rolls on the floor" , "incoherently mumbles", " smokes a joint on stage", "cancels a gig due to being too ill" we totally need to play manson tour bingo!
Just popping in to agree with this.
When I call him a drunk singling karaoke, I don't mean that in a spiteful way. Like others here, his music meant everything to me during my high school and early college years. He was inspirational to me in so many ways.
And now every time I click on this thread I prepare myself for some new embarrassment. Spitting on a painting a fan did of him. Getting into a fistfight at Denny's. The Zombie feud. The constant "illness" show cancellations. A story about him falling asleep drunk in a hallway and needing to be woke up to go perform....of course, the ludicrous display I personally witnessed when he opened for Slipknot.
I bought tix for the Megadeth/Ozzy show before the Ozzman had to postpone. I am now at a point in my life where I am avoiding seeing Marilyn Manson live but it's happening anyway, and that is beyond fucked to me. Maybe I'll show up late on purpose.
I hope he gets help. I really do. if Al Jourgensen can turn his life around, anyone can. I'm not optimistic though, and I wish he'd prove me wrong.
I love how much everyone bumps this thread to shit talk. Who are you trying to convince these days?
Manson still gets booked for these tours, asked to guest at other shows/events, TV roles etc. You'd think if all the jaded ex-fan opinions were so blatantly true, he'd be getting as much attention as Scott Stapp or some shit like that. As much as you hate who Manson is - I love that he's still around enough to keep a bunch of people talking about him and stirring the shit.
Excited for Friday. Ears are ready.
Just looking at your post history....You ONLY post on ETS about Manson....and its always to defend him.....Hmmmmm.....Earlier in this thread someone was wondering if Manson ever scrolls through this board....Based on your post history and blind loyalty to Manson....the cutesy name *Damian* (so evil ).....All I can say is....HI BRIAN
Who’s trying to convince who of what now? Are we supposed to be astounded that there are still people gullible enough to shell out cash to see a washed up has-been? Whenever he’s done or released something decent, the thread responds accordingly. It’s almost as if sucking obscene amounts of ass 99% of the time correlates directly with people calling you out on it. *Kanye shrug*
An example? I don’t know, let’s say the Korn thread. Do I listen to Korn? No. I’m 38. But are they disrespecting their fanbase by putting on half assed cash grab performances? From what I’ve heard, nope. Just doing their thing. The thread dictates that. See: Rammstein, Ghost, or any of the other musical threads. If there was another artist as awful and selfish as Big Brian, I’m sure a thread about them would have a few zingers here and there, no?
Last edited by october_midnight; 11-15-2019 at 07:34 PM.
I can assure you I'm not MM - I've had this name on ETS well before they rebooted the forum, back from the 'phant days. A few people around here know who I am. But yeah, I do mostly keep tabs on this thread
It's gotta be Haz, I know it!
As much as I'm still a fan, this train of thought has always put it into perspective for me. This is probably the mildest and most tactful way to put it, but there's an inherent cringe in knowing that there are so many fans shelling out good money just to see show not only mess up, but just get ruined altogether to the point of cancellation and serious injuries. Just the thought of fans working and saving just to see those concerts get shot to Hell never sat well with me.
As far as Marilyn Manson and the band itself, I always had a hunch that Marilyn Manson was hated from the start. (And I don't just mean from being deemed offensive and controversial.) For all I know, there could've been people that also dismissed him as a ridiculous try hard, or old hat, especially if they were already well into their 20s and 30s and beyond in 1994, probably from just having heard of and seen him during the Portrait of an American Family, Smells Like Children, Antichrist Superstar and Mechanical Animals eras. And with him being into drugs even back then, they could've also found his drug use just as ridiculous too. I suppose it's just that the drugs didn't really catch up with him back then as it did from the mid 2000s until now.
And from what I've read people admit before, it would be easily the most shocking thing he'd ever do.
For real. This is why I haven't bothered with any Marilyn Manson interviews as a proper read/listen. I'd often skim through it, or just pass on them entirely. I can't tell with them anymore either.
I've read about Korn fans always referring to Korn putting on an excellent show from the fans even just in passing. If so, there would've been so many videos all over YouTube about it as well.
I actually feel the same exact way. I've sometimes wondered if they were also caffeine induced. They certainly seemed to be. (As a fellow caffeine lover.)
Damn. As much as I'm cool with the guy... I can't deny that at all. And well, I always loved the way you put things like that.
In all seriousness though, I'm sure he'd make lemonade jokes about it too, perhaps in a gigantic yellow font to boot. (I'm also basing this on how he was/is at Provider Module.)
Last edited by Halo Infinity; 11-16-2019 at 09:06 PM.
Damian isn't MM or Haz but he is a legit source.
Feel however you want to about Haz, but the fact that X amount of years after being banned he can STILL derail the Manson thread is impressive and really speaks to his legacy.
Not sure I follow any of this. For starters, Manson has been mainstream since the mid-90s. Playing worldwide arena tours, having your face on t-shirts at the mall, being played on MTV...if that's not mainstream, what is?
Don't understand the "always shifted between incoherent and focused" either. Every pre-2000 interview I saw with him made him appear thoughtful and intelligent, and any "bizarre" behavior was very clearly part of his image and not an inability to control himself.
And using Trent Reznor as an example? Yeah, look at him. He recognized his problems and got clean, got super buff, and took on the responsibilities of a husband and father. None of the things that Manson has done. If anything, it just shows that the only difference is that one of them cared enough about themselves to make a scary admission and put in an extraordinary amount of time and effort into become a better person, and the other one decided to act like they're still a kid. And that's the frustrating thing. Manson COULD be clean, in good shape, and capable of putting on a great show. But he chose not to expel the effort to make it happen. Let me put it this way: if he'd been an athlete who made it into the major leagues and then decided "I'm here, so I can do whatever I want," he would have been cut from the team immediately.
Manson was one of my favorite artists when I was young. I don't want to dislike him. I don't take any pleasure from thinking that he's completely destroyed himself and his career. I just don't get why so many people still think he's a great entertainer or someone to look up to.
Is he the creepy motherfucker who wrote something like "okay, whatever...I know where you live" in a very menacing tone long before it was revealed that the latest album had a track of a similar name? If so, I'd be satisfied with that counting as a fact check.
edit: yup
Last edited by theimage13; 11-17-2019 at 06:35 AM.
It depends on how you look at it. You could state that he was relatively mainstream with the young millennial teens of the early 00's (and end 90's) who listened to rock, metal, and alternative genres and he was a main attraction for European festivals back then. At the same time you could easily notice that music like that was controversial and frowned upon, even up to those times. The whole dynamic simply changed by now. 20 years have passed since 1999 so now he became one of the modern oldies and is accepted for what he does... In a way he is living off of his past fame like many "oldies" before him.
I agree with all the rest you wrote. It's a nice and clean opinion. Just don't blast me with a plasma rifle in the 40 watt range if my posts are too condensed or contain a phrasing mistake. I'm not a native English speaker nor writer.
Now that it's been mentioned, I figured that I might as well point this out.
Damian is in fact Cringeon. Damian is to Provider Module in the same exact way that Leviathant is to Echoing the Sound.
http://www.providermodule.com/site/s...php?v=cringeon
It's undeniable that he left one hell of an impression on ETS. I know it's also more than just the gigantic fonts, but that had to be one of the reasons as to why and how. I checked to be sure when that was and it's been 3 years and counting since July 30, 2016.
https://www.echoingthesound.org/comm...217#post311217
I also don't think that's actually happened before, but with his username and overall reputation attached to Marilyn Manson, it sometimes seems inevitable. I know I'm not really helping by adding to the discussion, but it still seemed as simple as to not mention him at all, but at the same time I didn't mind because I got along well with him. In some ways, Hazekiah inadvertently helped me appreciate Eat Me, Drink Me and Born Villain as time passed by. (Not as the sole reason, but one of them.)
And to this day, I still don't think there's anything Marilyn Manson does that Hazekiah finds to be obviosuly "Bad." or even "Just okay." That's still very much consistent and true to him, even until now, and probably will be for the rest of his life.
That's certainly him. You beat me to it, but I at least wanted to show the URL. And absolutely, very much agreed as it's like the equivalent of Leviathant providing news and information based on Nine Inch Nails.
Last edited by Halo Infinity; 11-17-2019 at 10:20 AM.
damn, it's really been 3 years since Haz was banned? I'm not gonna lie, I kinda miss the guy....but only kinda.
But Leviathant doesn't get song titles or single release dates ahead of the general public or before any of us. So, how does a guy who runs a MM fan site get access to that info before anyone else? Not denying it's not him, just odd how he would be more in the "know" than any other of us internet dwellers. How would a MM fan site admin know a new single is coming Friday? I googled high and low "Marilyn Manson, Nov 22nd" and the results don't bring up jack shit.
Ya figure we would have heard something by someone by now if the album was done and new singles were ready to drop. *shrugs*