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    Quote Originally Posted by tony.parente View Post
    How much did that run ya and where did you get it?
    https://rollinrecs.com/marilyn-manso...ist-superstar/

    Looks like he's out of stock now, but will probably get more soon. Normally $60 but he had a handful with slight cover damage and I managed to snag one for $30. The damage is very minimal so I'm happy with it.

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    Just got my hands on this pink variant of the Holywood bootleg....I'll clean it here soon before playing it and then give a review. The jacket is just like the ACSS jacket but this one actually comes with an insert.

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    and it seems these do come with the usual bootleg defects...hopefully this doesn't effect play


    The original pressing didn't come with this bonus track, right?

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    Legit question

    Why buy a bootleg of an album on vinyl? Wouldnt the master be the digital version anyway? Im really curious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conan The Barbarian View Post
    Legit question

    Why buy a bootleg of an album on vinyl? Wouldnt the master be the digital version anyway? Im really curious.
    when i sold all my MM albums on discogs last year, i got $200 for my original pressing of Holy Wood, and that was at the low end of what people were asking for it. i'm guessing that's a big factor. (i had bought it at amoeba records in west hollywood in 2002 for $25 and only played it three times)

    also, @NotoriousTIMP you are correct, the original pressing did not have that as a bonus track

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    Quote Originally Posted by NotoriousTIMP View Post
    The original pressing didn't come with this bonus track, right?
    I checked mine and you are correct, no bonus track nor does it have an insert. Then again, as far as an insert is concerned, the damn thing is close to 20 years old and any insert might have been lost in the shuffle. Bootleg or not, its awesome you got a copy of HolyWood.

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    Happy 21st birthday to Mechanical Animals.
    Damn... We're old. I remember buying this record the day it was released like it was yesterday.
    Good times. Great record.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tony.parente View Post
    How much did that run ya and where did you get it?
    If you're still interested, the guy I bought this from just restocked. He's got both mint copies for $50 and cosmetically damaged copies like the one I have for $30.

    https://rollinrecs.com/marilyn-manso...ist-superstar/

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    Quote Originally Posted by imail724 View Post
    If you're still interested, the guy I bought this from just restocked. He's got both mint copies for $50 and cosmetically damaged copies like the one I have for $30.

    https://rollinrecs.com/marilyn-manso...ist-superstar/
    Really debating buying one of his "reissues" of Mechanical Animals, since it doesn't seem like it'll be reprinted anytime soon.

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    MARILYN MANSON To Play Viking Death Metal Singer In 'American Gods' Season 3


    https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/ma...HccZsChUZp4jMU

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninhead View Post
    Really debating buying one of his "reissues" of Mechanical Animals, since it doesn't seem like it'll be reprinted anytime soon.
    Iím considering this too. Do this guys pressings sound good?


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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsChrisRoss View Post
    Iím considering this too. Do this guys pressings sound good?


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    He doesn't press them, he just sells them. But I found the same copy of MA at my local shop and it sounds pretty great to me. The only minor annoyance is since it uses the CD sequence, there are some crossfading issues between sides. But as far as the overall sound quality, I have some legit albums that sound worse.

    And I only listened to AS once so far, but I think that one might sound even better. Helps that that album has a dirtier sound though, so maybe it can just hide it's flaws better than the crisp production of MA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conan The Barbarian View Post
    Legit question

    Why buy a bootleg of an album on vinyl? Wouldnt the master be the digital version anyway? Im really curious.

    Correct. The vinyl bootleg would be vastly inferior to CD or even 320 mp3. It's like a worse version of dubbing a copy of your friend's cassette onto your own. Not to mention you have to specifically master for vinyl vs digital.

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    Haha, damn... You know a Manson show is bad even when the Facebook comments are shitting on it...

    Manson played the Aftershock festival tonight, and they shared a photo on FB of him and the comments are amazing!

    "Manson was terrible, shouldn’t have been even allowed to perform in that state"

    "This is why I won't pay to see him anymore. Drunkass gong show."

    "I didn't realize we were going to see a comedy show."

    "For the love of rock, please don't bring Marilyn Manson back.
    This is the fifth time I've seen him, and my second time seeing him at Aftershock. Every single time, he's always drunk, stumbling, and slurring through his songs. Tonight was embarrassing.
    There's so many other great artists that deserve to be near the headline position over him."

    "How drunk was he?? My first time seeing him...sadly, not impressed ..left early"

    "Maybe let a band that deserves to be there, that wants to interact with their audience and has their crap together take the time slot. I've seen Manson at least 8 times now and each performance gets worse and worse."

    and so on and so on and so on...


    Quote Originally Posted by NotoriousTIMP View Post
    Someone please remind me that I shouldn't buy tickets for the LA gig....someone....please.....anyone....
    I hope to god you never bought tickets to that LA gig... and if you're still on the fence and need further reassurance, just let these comments speak for themselves.

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    Found a recording of The Beautiful People from Aftershock. It's from a cell phone so you can't see much, but you can definitely tell that he's had too much to drink or something.

    I feel like I'm beating a dead horse at this point, but it's just frustrating to witness.

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    Oh I agree. In the comments of my recording from a few months ago, a few people tried defending him, saying "oh he was sick" or "he doesn't sound that bad"

    Dude is a train wreck

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    Dude needs help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eachpassingphase View Post
    Found a recording of The Beautiful People from Aftershock. It's from a cell phone so you can't see much, but you can definitely tell that he's had too much to drink or something.

    I feel like I'm beating a dead horse at this point, but it's just frustrating to witness.

    Wow. I can't listen to that. That's bad for even Marilyn Manson.
    Someone a few pages ago compared him to a drunk doing drunk Karaoke covering Manson but... it's even worse than that, I'd take the drunk at Karaoke over this.
    Even the crowd looks very unimpressed as the phone pans around.
    Guy needs to throw in the towel, and fast.

    And to think, there are nut jobs out there (I've seen them post online) that say Manson is in way better shape these days than Trent... Hahahahahaha! Comedy gold right there.
    They must be huffing the same chloroform soaked rag that Manson is before his shows if they think Manson is on the same playing field if not higher than Trent in 2019, lol.

    Someone needs to get this guy into rehab. If James Hetfield can go back and admit he has a problem, he should send an open invitation for Brian Warner to join him before it's too late.
    At least with Metallica, the live show didn't suffer like this does.
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    His current state is so infuriating on a number of levels, but in particular it's making me question all the posters, all the countless hours I spent as a teenager repeatedly listening to those first few albums.

    Was that all a waste? Was he actually never an amazing artist or was I just brainwashed into believing it? I mean you guys have no idea, my bedroom walls were plastered with MM posters, some of which were blacklight lol.

    This is fucking with my head and making me retroactively assess whether or not all those years of being obsessed with this person/band were in vain. Major ugh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by halo eighteen View Post
    His current state is so infuriating on a number of levels, but in particular it's making me question all the posters, all the countless hours I spent as a teenager repeatedly listening to those first few albums.

    Was that all a waste? Was he actually never an amazing artist or was I just brainwashed into believing it? I mean you guys have no idea, my bedroom walls were plastered with MM posters, some of which were blacklight lol.

    This is fucking with my head and making me retroactively assess whether or not all those years of being obsessed with this person/band were in vain. Major ugh.
    I think youíre over thinking it. If he brought you solace and got you through some rough times back then, no reason to think it a waste.

    Kind of like Green Day is for me. I grew up on Kerplunk, Dookie, Insomniac, Nimrod, Warning, and American Idiot pushed it. Now, their state is in a much better way than Mansons, but I canít say I can get into anything theyíve done post American Idiot. Every time they release something new I have hopes itíll bring me back but it just doesnít. Of course, I donít look back on all my hours and money spent with them as a waste.

    Point is, he gave you something during that period of your life you valued/value. Iíd just let that be and accept him for what he is now, which might not be something you like.


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    Quote Originally Posted by halo eighteen View Post
    His current state is so infuriating on a number of levels, but in particular it's making me question all the posters, all the countless hours I spent as a teenager repeatedly listening to those first few albums.

    Was that all a waste? Was he actually never an amazing artist or was I just brainwashed into believing it? I mean you guys have no idea, my bedroom walls were plastered with MM posters, some of which were blacklight lol.

    This is fucking with my head and making me retroactively assess whether or not all those years of being obsessed with this person/band were in vain. Major ugh.
    Same here. I think we were all like that. My room was covered floor to ceiling with Hit parader and Circus magazine cutouts, had a whole wall devoted to Manson 20 years ago, then it evolved into a NIN wall slowly before it all got taken down, lol. We've all been there.

    Edit: But kinda like @ItsChrisRoss just said, it's just a snapshot of a time in our lives, no sense being embarrassed by it or thinking it was a waste. He generally did get me through some hard times. ACSS, MA and HW are some of the best records out there in the music industry. I don't think it was a mirage or a facade and we were just blinded by the light. You can watch any live show from 1996-2001 or any live interview from back then and tell that he wasn't always like this. Basically, we all grew up and Manson didn't.
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    It wasn't a waste, this is the same guy that released The Pale Emperor.

    I also had my walls covered in Hit Parader/Circus cutouts of Manson and company, glad to hear I wasn't the only one.

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    Manson is like Korn.....Our generations version of KISS....Oh so cool when you're 13 but once you hit 30, you start to wonder "what was I thinking?"....Those bands are just nostalgia for high school days gone by. If I put on a Manson album now (or Korn) I get bored after 10 minutes...In 1997 I was all over their shit.....I outgrew this music, as did a lot of people....Some people still wanna clutch to their Manson stuff but its mostly out of nostalgia. Its a guy who hasn't put out a relevant album in 19 years and hasnt played a cohesive live show since around the same time. Thank fuck Trent didnt go down the same road and is still a viable artist still putting out great music and great live shows........Manson is heading the Weiland route and if his manager/bandmates etc gave a fuck about him, they would cancel the tour and throw his ass into a rehab....But touring brings money and they need their cash cow. So they will do what Weilands people did. Drag him around from venue to venue, fucked out of his skull, then drag him to the next tour stop. Wash, rinse, repeat. Eventually they will find him dead on the tour bus or passed out on the floor of his hotel room in a puddle of vomit dead to the world...Its rock n roll man

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helpmeiaminhell View Post
    Manson is like Korn.....Our generations version of KISS....Oh so cool when you're 13 but once you hit 30, you start to wonder "what was I thinking?"....Those bands are just nostalgia for high school days gone by. If I put on a Manson album now (or Korn) I get bored after 10 minutes...In 1997 I was all over their shit.....I outgrew this music, as did a lot of people....Some people still wanna clutch to their Manson stuff but its mostly out of nostalgia. Its a guy who hasn't put out a relevant album in 19 years and hasnt played a cohesive live show since around the same time. Thank fuck Trent didnt go down the same road and is still a viable artist still putting out great music and great live shows........Manson is heading the Weiland route and if his manager/bandmates etc gave a fuck about him, they would cancel the tour and throw his ass into a rehab....But touring brings money and they need their cash cow. So they will do what Weilands people did. Drag him around from venue to venue, fucked out of his skull, then drag him to the next tour stop. Wash, rinse, repeat. Eventually they will find him dead on the tour bus or passed out on the floor of his hotel room in a puddle of vomit dead to the world...Its rock n roll man
    Nah, insane clown posse is my "wtf was I thinking" band.

    Pre 2003 Manson I would still to this day consider in my top 5 bands of all time (along with NIN, Tool, Rammstein and Ministry).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helpmeiaminhell View Post
    Manson is like Korn.....Our generations version of KISS....Oh so cool when you're 13 but once you hit 30, you start to wonder "what was I thinking?"....Those bands are just nostalgia for high school days gone by. If I put on a Manson album now (or Korn) I get bored after 10 minutes...In 1997 I was all over their shit.....I outgrew this music, as did a lot of people....Some people still wanna clutch to their Manson stuff but its mostly out of nostalgia. Its a guy who hasn't put out a relevant album in 19 years and hasnt played a cohesive live show since around the same time. Thank fuck Trent didnt go down the same road and is still a viable artist still putting out great music and great live shows........Manson is heading the Weiland route and if his manager/bandmates etc gave a fuck about him, they would cancel the tour and throw his ass into a rehab....But touring brings money and they need their cash cow. So they will do what Weilands people did. Drag him around from venue to venue, fucked out of his skull, then drag him to the next tour stop. Wash, rinse, repeat. Eventually they will find him dead on the tour bus or passed out on the floor of his hotel room in a puddle of vomit dead to the world...Its rock n roll man
    As someone who loved STP and was heartbroken when Weiland passed (even though a lot of people saw it coming), I wouldn't wish to see any artist disintegrate like that. Despite his current state, I still feel bad for Manson. I really hope he can pull himself together. Weiland, Cornell, those hit hard. Manson would hit hard too but I hope it doesn't get to that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by halo eighteen View Post
    His current state is so infuriating on a number of levels, but in particular it's making me question all the posters, all the countless hours I spent as a teenager repeatedly listening to those first few albums.

    Was that all a waste? Was he actually never an amazing artist or was I just brainwashed into believing it? I mean you guys have no idea, my bedroom walls were plastered with MM posters, some of which were blacklight lol.

    This is fucking with my head and making me retroactively assess whether or not all those years of being obsessed with this person/band were in vain. Major ugh.
    I've been thinking about this regarding musicians in general for quite some time. It's also given me a constant reminder as to why it's just best to not get all caught up with "X is God/King!" when it comes to musicians or famous people in general. Not to make excuses for it, since self-sabotage is bad no matter what, but the human element and all of its flaws are always there and always will be.

    At the same time, I could easily understand why one gigantic disappointment after another would do this to a fan, especially for fans that ever entered diehard or hardcore territory in any capacity. I also went through feeling like that as well, and while I accept the chances, I also didn't feel the same way since Eat Me, Drink Me, and this is coming from somebody that actually likes The High End of Low, The Pale Emperor and Heaven Upside Down as favorites of the later parts of his discography.

    It's also a constant reminder to lower or eliminate one's expectations to prevent further or more intense let-downs, since you sometimes just never know.

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    Happy 21st birthday to Mechanical Animals.
    Damn... We're old. I remember buying this record the day it was released like it was yesterday.
    Good times. Great record.
    I'll always remember Mechanical Animals as my introduction to all things Marilyn Manson. I didn't get into music and collecting albums until 1999 though, but also didn't become a fan until late 2001 and early 2002. I know this will sound ridiculous in hindsight, but even in 1999-2000, I felt like I shouldn't get into his music for religious reasons back when I was actually religious, or at least thought I was due to my Adventist background. What makes it even more ironic is that I was already comfortable listening to Slipknot, but I think becoming a fan of Slipknot (Which came from also being a huge fan of Korn.) gradually helped "desensitize" me for Marilyn Manson. It prompted me to read what he was about on Google and Wikipedia, since there was no YouTube at the time, and then just gave his music a chance and it was lot better than I thought it would be.

    Quote Originally Posted by ItsChrisRoss View Post
    I think you¬’re over thinking it. If he brought you solace and got you through some rough times back then, no reason to think it a waste.

    Kind of like Green Day is for me. I grew up on Kerplunk, Dookie, Insomniac, Nimrod, Warning, and American Idiot pushed it. Now, their state is in a much better way than Mansons, but I can¬’t say I can get into anything they¬’ve done post American Idiot. Every time they release something new I have hopes it¬’ll bring me back but it just doesn¬’t. Of course, I don¬’t look back on all my hours and money spent with them as a waste.

    Point is, he gave you something during that period of your life you valued/value. I¬’d just let that be and accept him for what he is now, which might not be something you like.


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    My thoughts exactly as well. That's what also occurred to me after a while. Sometimes it's not even about musicians going bad and getting worse, but more of a chance of overall preference and opinion, or just not having the same mental and emotional investment and attachment that was once there, which could seem to very-well apply to any other type of interests in general.

    Quote Originally Posted by ManBurning View Post
    Same here. I think we were all like that. My room was covered floor to ceiling with Hit parader and Circus magazine cutouts, had a whole wall devoted to Manson 20 years ago, then it evolved into a NIN wall slowly before it all got taken down, lol. We've all been there.

    Edit: But kinda like @ItsChrisRoss just said, it's just a snapshot of a time in our lives, no sense being embarrassed by it or thinking it was a waste. He generally did get me through some hard times. ACSS, MA and HW are some of the best records out there in the music industry. I don't think it was a mirage or a facade and we were just blinded by the light. You can watch any live show from 1996-2001 or any live interview from back then and tell that he wasn't always like this. Basically, we all grew up and Manson didn't.
    I haven't done that in a while, but I just love the panache of the MM concerts of that era. I know much doesn't have to be said, since it's all been said here for quite some time.

    I know I'm always more generous in this case, but I also like to include Portrait of an American Family, Smells Like Children and The Golden Age of Grotesque to that list with Dead to the World, God Is in the TV, The Last Tour On Earth and Guns, God and Government. From top to bottom, for quite some time, I've felt like that's the definitive Marilyn Manson to recommend to anybody should they shell out a hefty sum of money for MM for the first time, or little by little for a proper listen/viewing.

    (I might as well should've said pretty much anything that came out before Eat Me, Drink Me.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by halo eighteen View Post
    His current state is so infuriating on a number of levels, but in particular it's making me question all the posters, all the countless hours I spent as a teenager repeatedly listening to those first few albums.

    Was that all a waste? Was he actually never an amazing artist or was I just brainwashed into believing it?.
    Yeah heís trash. I was a fan when I was a teenager too. Donít worry, most of us grew up and realized itís trash. Youíre good.

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    Would you say Manson is where Weiland was (performance wise) in 2015?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RhettButler View Post
    Would you say Manson is where Weiland was (performance wise) in 2015?


    this sums it up....One of Weilands last shows. Total trainwreck....This is where Manson is at these days

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helpmeiaminhell View Post


    this sums it up....One of Weilands last shows. Total trainwreck....This is where Manson is at these days
    I wouldnít say Mansons that far gone yet. As someone who loved Weiland, that was painful to watch then, and painful to watch now. His eyes are vacant. Nothing.

    Manson moves around more from what Iíve seen. I saw Manson twice last year, the first time was better but was when his foot was injured and the second time was with zombie and I was bored during mansons set. Idk. I donít think heís there ^^^ yet.


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