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    Quote Originally Posted by NYRexall View Post
    Bought the Razorblade Suitcase (In Addition) vinyl package today. I still can't believe I'm holding a 20th anniversary reissue of this album; I remember the time period when it came out like it was yesterday: people everywhere swooping in to pick it up during the madness of the holiday season, the 'Swallowed' video all over the music channels, Gavin-mania in full effect. Even though I knew their days in the sun were numbered after this album, it still turned out to be the best thing he's ever done, by a mile (and then some)

    Anyway, this LP set is legit. Printed inner sleeves, a gargantuan lyric poster, reinterpreted album art, liner notes from Albini in the gatefold, pointless-but-neat-looking swirl-colored vinyl, the four rare bonus tracks...this is a sterling example of a multimedia package done right.

    All this, and again, it doesn't hurt that this is as close to an "artistic masterpiece" as Gavin's ever come up with..
    Any thoughts on the four bonus tracks? Odd that they were not included on the remastered CD, which was released in 2014.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RhettButler View Post
    Any thoughts on the four bonus tracks? Odd that they were not included on the remastered CD, which was released in 2014.
    "Bubbles" is an anomaly in the Bush catalogue. It was originally on the Mallrats soundtrack and was recorded sometime after the Sixteen Stone sessions, I believe. Its inclusion here is both puzzling and pointless because it doesn't sound anything like the Razorblade stuff, and wouldn't have fit on Sixteen either. Not a bad song (especially by today's Bush standards), but it's like an orphan child with no home on any of their albums.

    "Old" would have made an interesting album opener. It's almost like a faster version of Personal Holloway. "Broken TV" is more of a jam than an actual song. It's fine, but it sounds aimless and is clearly b-side quality.

    "Sleeper" is a gem though. It sounds exactly like an outtake from the In Utero sessions, to the point where they should be giving Nirvana co-songwriting credit; listen to it and see if you can tell which song it's aping. I can't imagine Albini was able to keep a straight face in the studio when they were recording this. Either that, or he had it leftover from the IU sessions and he and the band wanted to troll everyone regarding the whole "Bush sounds like Nirvana" contingent.

    Either way, this song is a rager and should have been on the album instead of "Communicator", save for its blatant Nirvana rip-offing.


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    Anyone heard of this?


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    I'm telling you, Rhett: it's not the same band. Nobody is fooled by this Gavin-act. I'd expect a lot more reviews in a similar vein for this album. The original Bush were at least endearing when they were doing their 90s grunge knock-off routine. This mach 2.0 version is just overproduced schlock. The original Bush would have never written crap like Mad Love For You, Baby or Sky Goes Day Glo or Dangerous Love.

    Calling it Bush is just Gavin's marketing tool for this. If he called it Gavin Rossdale or anything else, nobody would bat an eye. They probably still won't..

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYRexall View Post
    I'm telling you, Rhett: it's not the same band. Nobody is fooled by this Gavin-act. I'd expect a lot more reviews in a similar vein for this album. The original Bush were at least endearing when they were doing their 90s grunge knock-off routine. This mach 2.0 version is just overproduced schlock. The original Bush would have never written crap like Mad Love For You, Baby or Sky Goes Day Glo or Dangerous Love.

    Calling it Bush is just Gavin's marketing tool for this. If he called it Gavin Rossdale or anything else, nobody would bat an eye. They probably still won't..
    Gavin is pulling a Billy Corgan when he uses The Smashing Pumpkins name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYRexall View Post
    I'm telling you, Rhett: it's not the same band. Nobody is fooled by this Gavin-act. I'd expect a lot more reviews in a similar vein for this album. The original Bush were at least endearing when they were doing their 90s grunge knock-off routine. This mach 2.0 version is just overproduced schlock. The original Bush would have never written crap like Mad Love For You, Baby or Sky Goes Day Glo or Dangerous Love.

    Calling it Bush is just Gavin's marketing tool for this. If he called it Gavin Rossdale or anything else, nobody would bat an eye. They probably still won't..
    You have a point. Still, I enjoyed their last two albums and the shows I attended were a lot of fun. Still holding out hope for a decent album.

    This review is a more positive.
    http://www.metalwani.com/2017/02/rev...-rainbows.html

    I'm curious what the All Music Guide will give it. Their reviews tend to be spot-on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RhettButler View Post
    I'm curious what the All Music Guide will give it. Their reviews tend to be spot-on.
    If I remember correctly, Stephen Thomas Erlweine gave MOTN a pretty decent review, which surprised me. I will definitely give the new album a few cursory spins, but I'm not expecting anything much..

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    Quote Originally Posted by neorev View Post
    Gavin is pulling a Billy Corgan when he uses The Smashing Pumpkins name.
    The thing is, I generally enjoy Chris Traynor's guitar work in past bands like Helmet and Orange 9mm, but he sounds non-existent on the last two Gavin's Bush records..

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYRexall View Post
    If I remember correctly, Stephen Thomas Erlweine gave MOTN a pretty decent review, which surprised me. I will definitely give the new album a few cursory spins, but I'm not expecting anything much..
    3/5 from AMG:
    http://www.allmusic.com/album/black-...ws-mw000302069

    STE, unfortunately, did not write the review.

    Some other reviews, some good, some not so good:

    http://teamrock.com/review/2017-03-0...album-review-1
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...new-album.html
    https://www.theguardian.com/music/20...view-zuma-rock
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    Listened to the new album today on my jog. I'd give it a 3/5. Nothing terrible, nothing fantastic. The songs are all in the "good, but not great range." If you liked their last two, you should like this too. Probably my least favorite of the post-reunion era, but I still enjoyed it.

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    I don't ever go by what reviews say from a personal standpoint because it's just one random ordinary guy or girl trying to speak for everyone. I had time last evening to listen to an hour of music and opted for Soundgarden's Ultramega OK Deluxe that was released today, over the new Bush album. Sounds like I made the right choice; Ultramega has always been a worthwhile album to me, whereas new Bush sounds like it's just a retread of the last two..

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYRexall View Post
    I don't ever go by what reviews say from a personal standpoint because it's just one random ordinary guy or girl trying to speak for everyone. I had time last evening to listen to an hour of music and opted for Soundgarden's Ultramega OK Deluxe that was released today, over the new Bush album. Sounds like I made the right choice; Ultramega has always been a worthwhile album to me, whereas new Bush sounds like it's just a retread of the last two..
    I also bought the new Soundgarden remaster. What are your thoughts on the re-release vs. the original?

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    Didn't even crack the top 200. Jeez. New Bush is selling less than 15-20+ year old Eminem and Metallica albums and Journey's greatest hits, from 1988.

    http://www.billboard.com/charts/billboard-200
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    Saw Bush tonight--fun show. This was my fourth time seeing them, so it was pretty much what I expected. Gavin is still a wildman towards the end of the show, running around the club. Good turnout, although maybe slightly down from the last few time I saw them at the Boston House of Blues. Good mix of their entire catalog, and obviously their 90's material received the best response.

    I've warmed up bit to Black and White Rainbows. Sure, it's much more of a pop album, but I actually like the new direction. I'm hoping for a harder rocking disc next time around, but I'm enjoying this.

    Really like this song:
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    Bush are on tour with STP and the Cult.

    https://www.rollingstone.com/music/n...3-tour-w518586

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    Iíve only listened to sixteen stone and razorblade suitcase. Some good songs, catchy singles, but thatís it.

    I might give a chance to their album after those 2.

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    Missed these two songs that were released last Fall on the deluxe edition of Black and White Rainbows.



    "This is War" is better than any song from the original release and it's a shame it was left off the original album. "Alien Language" isn't bad either, but nothing amazing.

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    Looks like Bush's next album will be "heavier."

    http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/bus...avy-new-album/

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    Quote Originally Posted by RhettButler View Post
    Looks like Bush's next album will be "heavier."

    http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/bus...avy-new-album/

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    Quote Originally Posted by thevoid99 View Post
    I really liked Bush's first comeback album Sea of Memories. Something like that--good, polished, grungy, 90's rock. That's all I ask for in a Bush album. Not groundbreaking stuff, but when he wants to, Gavin can deliver the goods.

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    Bush was just on MNF half time, pre recorded “Comedown” by Niagra Falls. It was not good lol.

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    New album, tentatively called The Mind Plays Tricks on You, is due in 2019.
    http://californiarocker.com/2018/12/...XE2vRmfD8o--8Y

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    https://www.billboard.com/articles/n...ady-peace-2019

    Bush + Live co-headline tour wsg Our Lady Peace: Alt-Imate tour celebrating 25 years of Sixteen Stone, Throwing Copper, and Naveed.

    Jun. 06 – Mashantucket, CT @ Foxwoods Resort Casino – The Grand Theater
    Jun. 07 – Atlantic City, NJ @ Hard Rock Live at Etess Arena
    Jun. 08 – Burlington, Ontario, Canada @ Spencer Smith Park – Sound of Music Festival
    Jun. 11 – Boston, MA @ Rockland Trust Bank Pavilion
    Jun. 13 – Gilford, NH @ Bank of New Hampshire Pavilion
    Jun. 14 – Canandaigua, NY @ Constellation Brands-Marvin Sands Performing Arts Center: CMAC
    Jun. 15 – Holmdel, NJ @ PNC Bank Arts Center
    Jul. 26 – Appleton, WI @ Neuroscience Group Field at Fox Cities Stadium
    Jul. 27 – Council Bluffs, IA @ Stir Cove at Harrah’s Casino
    Jul. 28 – Kansas City, MO @ Starlight Theatre
    Jul. 30 – New Orleans, LA @ Bold Sphere Music at Champions Square
    Aug. 02 – Wichita, KS @ Hartman Arena
    Aug. 03 – Denver, CO @ Fillmore Auditorium
    Aug. 06 – Los Angeles, CA @ Greek Theatre
    Aug. 07 – Concord, CA @ Concord Pavilion
    Aug. 09 – Tuolumne, CA @ Black Oak Casino – West Side Pavilion
    Aug. 10 – Costa Mesa, CA @ OC Fair
    Aug. 11 – Tucson, AZ @ AVA Casino
    Aug. 14 – Rogers, AR @ Walmart AMP
    Aug. 16 – Tampa, FL @ MIDFLORIDA Credit Union Amphitheatre
    Aug. 17 – Miami, FL @ Bayfront Park Amphitheater
    Aug. 18 – Jacksonville, FL @ Daily’s Place
    Aug. 20 – Atlanta, GA @ Cadence Bank Amphitheatre at Chastain Park
    Aug. 23 – Essex Junction, VT @ Champlain Valley Expo
    Aug. 24 – Baltimore, MD @ MECU Pavilion
    Aug. 25 – Pittsburgh, PA @ Stage AE
    Aug. 27 – Allentown, PA @ The Great Allentown Fair
    Aug. 29 – Wantagh, NY @ Northwell Health at Jones Beach Theater
    Aug. 30 – Bethel, NY @ Bethel Woods Center for the Arts
    Sep. 04 – Dayton, OH @ The Rose Music Center at The Heights
    Sep. 06 – Tinley Park, IL @ Hollywood Casino Amphitheatre
    Sep. 07 – Allegan, MI @ Allegan County Fair
    Sep. 08 – Rochester, MI @ Meadow Brook Amphitheatre

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    Some of those seem like very ambitious venue bookings in 2019, even with them playing their classic albums in full. Guess we'll see.

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    Yeah, those are big venues.

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    The Pavilion in Boston (name changes all the time) holds 5,200. I might go. Looks like they will play Throwing Copper and 16 Stone back-to-back.

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    I have to admit, I kinda wanna take acid and go to this concert

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    Going to the Boston show. Which band, in 2019, do you consider to be "bigger?" Bush or Live? Never really followed Live, but I remember that Throwing Copper album being really big.

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    I'm going to say Bush is bigger than Live.

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