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    It's just a weird false memory phenomenon. The term "Mandela Effect" was coined by a woman who is asserting something illogical and stupid as the cause, but that doesn't mean false memory doesn't exist.

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    Prior learning creates a framework for similar memories to be stored in close proximity to each other. This framework is known as a ‘schema’. One bit of evidence for this comes from a 2016 study on human semantic memory – long-term memories of ideas and concepts devoid of personal detail. To parse the terrain, researchers used functional magnetic resonance imaging (fMRI) to show that similar words are stored in adjacent regions of the brain, and even created a ‘semantic map’ of language in the human cortex. Another recent study confirmed that shared memory traces are organised in similar ways from one individual to the next.

    Although we might think of memories as being strengthened when recalled, the truth is actually more complex. Recalling a memory reactivates the neurons composing the memory trace, spurring them to form new connections. The altered circuitry then becomes stable again, and the memory is ‘reconsolidated’.

    Reconsolidation can reinforce learning over time by strengthening neural connections and allowing the formation of new associations.

    But obviously, taking a memory trace apart and putting it back together again makes that memory vulnerable to losing its fidelity. Here’s an example: at some point in their education, most Americans learn that Alexander Hamilton was a founding father but not a US president. However, when a study on false memory investigated whom most Americans identify as US presidents, the subjects were more likely to incorrectly select Hamilton but not several actual former presidents. This is likely to be because neurons encoding information about Hamilton were frequently activated at the same time as neurons encoding information about former presidents. Because neurons that ‘fire together wire together’, a connection between past presidents and Hamilton could gradually become strong enough that you would incorrectly remember Hamilton as a former president himself.

    The Hamilton study could also help to explain why groups of people share false memories, as with the mystery of Shazaam. First, there was a children’s movie called Kazaam (1996) starring Shaquille O’Neal as a genie. Then, some people falsely remember another 1990s film, perhaps a rip-off of Kazaam, called Shazaam, starring the comedian Sinbad as a genie. Although Shazaam never existed, there are hundreds of people online who claim to remember it.

    There are several reasons for this. First, a large number of general associations increase the probability that a false memory could emerge. Twin films with similar concepts being released at around the same time were common in the 1990s. Sinbad had a different movie out that same year called First Kid, which – like Kazaam – involves the hero coming to the aid of a wayward boy. And Sinbad had also previously released Houseguest (1995), the poster for which has an image of his head coming out of a mailbox, perhaps abstractly resembling a genie emerging from a lamp. Sinbad is an Arabic name, and the story of Sinbad the Sailor is often associated with encounters with genies. Sinbad’s bald head and goatee resemble a typical genie portrayed in the media. Sinbad also dressed up like a genie for a movie marathon he hosted in the 1990s, which almost certainly contributed to the ‘memory’ of Sinbad playing a genie. Besides similar associations laying the groundwork for a false memory to form, the other main factors in this instance are confabulation and suggestibility.
    If Shazaam never existed, how does he have such a detailed memory of the movie? This is most likely an instance of confabulation, or the brain’s attempt to fill in missing memory gaps by adding fabricated facts and experiences. Unlike lying, confabulation is not intended to deceive, and the person confabulating fully believes that the ‘remembered’ details are real. Confabulation is associated with a wide array of neurological disorders, including stroke, brain injury, Alzheimer’s, Korsakoff syndrome, epilepsy and schizophrenia, but it can also happen in healthy subjects (as anyone with a memory of ‘President Hamilton’ can attest). Instances of confabulation in healthy people increase with age and are thought to be due to age-related changes to the medial temporal lobe, including the hippocampus, and the prefrontal cortex. These brain regions are important for memory encoding and retrieval, and fMRI studies over the past decade suggest that decreased functioning in these regions underlies false memory.

    A third force driving the Mandela effect is suggestibility, the tendency to believe what others suggest to be true. When misinformation is introduced, it can actually compromise the fidelity of an existing memory. This is exactly why in a court of law an attorney can object to ‘leading questions’ that suggest a specific answer. In short, the leading question: ‘Do you remember the 1990s film Shazaam that starred Sinbad as a genie?’ not only suggests that such a film actually exists, but could even insert a false memory of having viewed it.
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    It's been a long time since one of these got me, but one recently did.

    It's the line "hello, Clarice" from Silence of the Lambs.

    It was never said.

    Where the fuck did we get "hello Clarice?"

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    are you sure lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by InsecureSpike View Post
    are you sure lol


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    very. Check it out. He says "good morning."



    And I'm not the only one remembering this one wrong because and movies and such.

    I realize he says it on the telephone in Hannibal. But I remember him saying it in the jail cell. Also, some of these shows using it as a joke predate Hannibal.

    So I can find no explanation for this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by elevenism View Post
    very. Check it out. He says "good morning."



    And I'm not the only one remembering this one wrong because and movies and such.

    I realize he says it on the telephone in Hannibal. But I remember him saying it in the jail cell. Also, some of these shows using it as a joke predate Hannibal.

    So I can find no explanation for this one.
    i think you'll find in most cases it is subtle mis-remembering. I was watching a few of the conspiracy videos about cern Q-anon and other in my opinion BS. here the thing with you tube conspiracy videos on youtube, they are usually produced adding spooky music video effects. use very leading statements like"isn't it obvious, I don't have to tell you", which is a very subtle way of either insulting or complementing your intelligence to sway you're thinking. We can go further. take something like Starbucks. discontinuing straws. which is all part of conditioning us for the upcoming alien hybrid human the government is creating in labs which don't, have mouths and psychically communicate and absorb nutrients through their skin. isn't it obvious if you just look at their logo. It's clearly homage to the satanic goddess Coffey from the water planet mermaland isn't it clear just look at the name Starbucks,which everyone knows is the galactic currency and star a common satanic symbol for 19th century satanist Allister Crowley. so it's right if front of your face what they are doing here. although we have access to more information than anytime in history as a society we are relatively young in parsing that information. early in the century newspapers constantly lied. And entertainment is one of the oldest propaganda tools known to man. so slow down we you think there's some new order Illuminati pedophile cult that's going to force you into fema slave labor camp and steal your guns. than the time to analyze how things are being presented and what is to be gained either politically or monetarily and go from there
    -Louie

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    Oh dude.
    I'm not claiming it's a conspiracy, @Louie_Cypher , nor do I think it's evidence of, well, anything.

    I just think it's interesting and weird. It fascinates me that SO many people misremember the same little things.
    Most of the time there is an easy explanation for these anomalies (like people confusing the thing in question with something else,) but I REALLY like the ones I CAN'T explain, because, most of all, I've come to think that they suggest that we have some degree of collective consciousness, which fucking fascinates me.

    As I've said before: I'm not claiming that we are living in an alternate dimension of this is evidence of time travel or anything like that.
    I just see the phenomenon in and of itself and it interests me.
    I'm not someone watching these people claiming it was caused by CERN or is a sign of the apocalypse or any of that.

    Edit: Btw, the Starbucks logo doesn't have anything to do with Thelema , but it DOES have an interesting history, (albeit one that has nothing to do with any conspiracy.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by elevenism View Post
    Oh dude.
    I'm not claiming it's a conspiracy, @Louie_Cypher , nor do I think it's evidence of, well, anything.

    I just think it's interesting and weird. It fascinates me that SO many people misremember the same little things.
    Most of the time there is an easy explanation for these anomalies (like people confusing the thing in question with something else,) but I REALLY like the ones I CAN'T explain, because, most of all, I've come to think that they suggest that we have some degree of collective consciousness, which fucking fascinates me.

    As I've said before: I'm not claiming that we are living in an alternate dimension of this is evidence of time travel or anything like that.
    I just see the phenomenon in and of itself and it interests me.
    I'm not someone watching these people claiming it was caused by CERN or is a sign of the apocalypse or any of that.

    Edit: Btw, the Starbucks logo doesn't have anything to do with Thelema , but it DOES have an interesting history, (albeit one that has nothing to do with any conspiracy.)
    thanks for the mention glad you read my post look mine was not accusatory or implying anything post was somewhat tongue in cheek look i have a fascination with conspiracy theories and their anato my for lack of a better term. look I try underlined to be a student of life's meanings look i am often dwelling down the rabbit hole. being an active student of social engineering i look for subtle psychological manipulation look i gotta get back to getting shit done but every interested in continuing this discussion
    -Louie
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    Quote Originally Posted by elevenism View Post
    Oh dude.
    I'm not claiming it's a conspiracy, @Louie_Cypher , nor do I think it's evidence of, well, anything.

    I just think it's interesting and weird. It fascinates me that SO many people misremember the same little things.
    Most of the time there is an easy explanation for these anomalies (like people confusing the thing in question with something else,) but I REALLY like the ones I CAN'T explain, because, most of all, I've come to think that they suggest that we have some degree of collective consciousness, which fucking fascinates me.
    I feel like if we had any degree of collective consciousness, we'd be less racist, less sexist, less bigoted overall. If there was actually something deep that linked us all together, we wouldn't be so staggeringly and unbelievably heartless and shitty to one another on a routine basis. I think the Mandela Effect is mostly just a sign that we tend not to pay attention to things.

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    @theimage13 , I hear you.
    For me, though, Carl Jung makes some fairly compelling arguments. I love archetypes and dream analysis and synchronicity and his theory of the collective unconscious (which I tend to take literally.) I see my anima and shadow regularly in dreams, which makes me think he was onto something.

    I also believe with every fiber of my being that we are all part and parcel of the same energy.

    But this is tangential.

    Yes, it's likely mass confabulation, but that is interesting in and of itself.

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    In the spirit of the upcoming Matrix film, and the premise of the Matrix universe, I thought I'd resurrect this thread with a couple of Matrix oddities.

    What if I told you that Morpheus doesn't say "What if I told you..." in the Matrix movies, at all, ever?
    Go back and watch the scene. He doesn't say that, or anything like it: not in the scene with the pills, or anywhere else in the trilogy.

    Remember Agent Smith saying "Mr. Anderson. We've been expecting you?"

    That didn't happen, either.


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