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[Kunstmord]

Never could get into black metal, but I liked a few moments from Darkthrone's Transilvanian Hunger and Burzum's Filosofem. Though if I had to choose between listening to Sunbather and listening to some lo-fi Norwegian 90-s BM, I'd choose the latter. Thinking of delving more into the black metal classics soon (also tried Mayhem's De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas recently, the vocals make it unlistenable...)
Death metal was never my cup of tea either, though I find early Cannibal Corpse records hilarious. Pungent Stench is the only death-ish band I could listen too.

Is Meshuggah extreme enough? Because I like obZen a lot, Koloss also has its moments.

Also love Old Man Gloom, but there's a separate thread for them anyway.


Speaking of non-metal extreme music, could never understand how people can listen to Merzbow and/or power electronics (Whitehouse, Ramleh when they're not doing psychedelic rock, etc.)

P.S. How did I forget about pornogrind? PORNOGRIND IS AWESOME

[seasonsinthesky]

Never could get into black metal, but I liked a few moments from Darkthrone's Transilvanian Hunger and Burzum's Filosofem. Though if I had to choose between listening to Sunbather and listening to some lo-fi Norwegian 90-s BM, I'd choose the latter. Thinking of delving more into the black metal classics soon (also tried Mayhem's De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas recently, the vocals make it unlistenable...)

Eh, every classic is always overrated. Unless you were there at the time, liking the classics is always about establishing "cred" more than it is about actually enjoying art – sure, lots of people probably liked Transylvanian Hunger when it came out, but I'm quite sure most people who got into black metal afterward just listened to it enough to finally like it. Don't get me wrong – I liked Emperor the first time I heard them (Anthems to the Welkin at Dusk when I was a teenager), but I only understood the mastery of In the Nightside Eclipse this year. Different strokes.

Try Immortal's At the Heart of Winter.

[Patrick_Nicholas]

Never could get into black metal, but I liked a few moments from Darkthrone's Transilvanian Hunger and Burzum's Filosofem. Though if I had to choose between listening to Sunbather and listening to some lo-fi Norwegian 90-s BM, I'd choose the latter. Thinking of delving more into the black metal classics soon (also tried Mayhem's De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas recently, the vocals make it unlistenable...)

Well, Attila Csihar isn't exactly the most conventional BM vocalist. You might recognize him as that guy who semi-regularly collaborates with Sunn O))).


Try instead their rehearsal Out From The Dark, probably the closest thing to a studio album with Dead.

Also love Old Man Gloom, but there's a separate thread for them anyway.

I've been meaning to get into Old Man Gloom now that Aaron Turner's other band is unlikely to reunite anytime soon because the name is now forever associated with terrorists.

[Kunstmord]

Eh, every classic is always overrated. Unless you were there at the time, liking the classics is always about establishing "cred" more than it is about actually enjoying art – sure, lots of people probably liked Transylvanian Hunger when it came out, but I'm quite sure most people who got into black metal afterward just listened to it enough to finally like it. Don't get me wrong – I liked Emperor the first time I heard them (Anthems to the Welkin at Dusk when I was a teenager), but I only understood the mastery of In the Nightside Eclipse this year. Different strokes.

Try Immortal's At the Heart of Winter.

Thanks, I'll check that out! And I've the title track from Transylvanian Hunger and the first track from Filosofem and liked them more from other random BM songs I've listened to, so that's why I'm interested in the classics. I have an acquaintance who's a huge black metal fan (he's listened to about 500 records), and I've tried listening to some of his suggestions and mostly couldn't stand them. At least that Darkthrone track I listened to was catchy in places.

I actually liked some Gehenna album, though that's closer to Blackened Death Metal, I guess. But it was slower and groovier than most traditional bm stuff.

Well, Attila Csihar isn't exactly the most conventional BM vocalist. You might recognize him as that guy who semi-regularly collaborates with Sunn O))).


Try instead their rehearsal Out From The Dark, probably the closest thing to a studio album with Dead.


I've been meaning to get into Old Man Gloom now that Aaron Turner's other band is unlikely to reunite anytime soon because the name is now forever associated with terrorists.

Yeah, that's why I don't enjoy Sunn O))) as much as I could, his vocals really annoy me. Especially on Monoliths and Dimensions. There's something about his croak that's just unpleasant.

ISIS the band are awesome and one of my fave bands ever. OMG are a bit of hit and miss – while I get that they have a "anything goes" and self-indulgent, excessive approach, sometimes the noise/ambience is just too long and boring. I'd recommend starting with Ape of God I and II or Christmas, I feel those are their most focused records. Ape of God II is amazingly dark and the last track sounds a bit like a stripped-down and slightly broken (in a good way) version of ISIS, while Ape of God I is more riff-oriented, I guess.
There's also Sumac (another Aaron Turner project), but it's boring and unmemorable, IMO – I think Aaron had too much control over it and no one restrained him or really contributed to the songwriting, so maybe that's why it's not that great.