Paris terror attacks

**Exocet** · 11-13-2015, 03:54 PM

Something really, really bad is happening in Paris right now. 18 dead so far... Shootings , Hostages, Explosions......this is some sort of major terror incident.

**Frozen Beach** · 11-14-2015, 06:21 AM

Footage of hostages escaping from the theatre, including two people hanging on for dear life on the side of the building from the windows. This is incredibly disturbing, so DO NOT WATCH IT if you think you can't stomach it.

**witte** · 11-14-2015, 06:40 AM

World War III is nearing, i think.
I mean to say this world war you cannot compare with the two ww we had in the past, but what i want to say, is that there is already a war going on (a traditional military one, joined by several countries) around Syrie, Irak en Afghanistan, and that there will be more terroristic wars in all the cities in the world, which will be controlled by police and special forces. Very complexed, but this will be the reality for the next couple of years.
Here in Europe, I think the first action will be, that they'll do a reintroduction of the border controls or even close all borders to get some control.
Very sad...

**Deepvoid** · 11-14-2015, 07:44 AM

It's hard not to react emotionally to these tragic events. Of course it'll take a days, probably weeks before we know exactly what happened. Who did what.
We all know the why ... or do we really?

According to some reports, one of the attacker was only 15 years old!! Whether this has been verified information remains to be seen but if true, I think we need reevaluate our actions abroad.
On one hand, if the coalition leaves the ME and completely stop intervening in any manner whatsoever, would we be letting them build a stronger network of terrorists like Al-Qaeda did in the past, resulting in an enemy who has the resources to plan much bigger attacks?
Would closing our borders solve this?
On the other hand, if we bomb the living shit out of Syria for example, are we breeding a new generation of terrorists? Terrorists who appear to have the ability to perpetrate smaller attacks but a lot more difficult to prevent.
Was this 15 years old's parents killed by our own bombs? Was he a normal kid who lost it all and is simply seeking revenge?

This is such a fucking complex situation. It's a fucking clusterfuck.

One thing is for sure, this cannot become the norm. We should not be living in fear of getting attacked in our country. We've been building our respective countries for centuries in a civilized (as best we can at least) manner. These people have their way of doing things, which is clearly much different than us. So how do we handle this?

My thoughts are with the families who lost a loved one yesterday. This sad beyond belief. Lives have been changed forever....

**allegro** · 11-14-2015, 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by Deepvoid

According to some reports, one of the attacker was only 15 years old!! Was this 15 years old's parents killed by our own bombs? Was he a normal kid who lost it all and is simply seeking revenge?

I've read many articles about how ISIS is recruiting young people via social media, using a very very large budget.

I'm very worried that we have not heard from @Khrz .

**kel** · 11-14-2015, 10:26 AM

holy shit. terrifying and needless. what the fuck can we do? my heart is aching for you, france.

**DVYDRNS** · 11-15-2015, 10:05 AM

I have been here since friday. Its intense out on the streets. Its quiet. Everything is closed. My flat is 3 blocks from where EODM were playing. Its pure fluke that I didn't know they were playing. Because I know those guys... and if i knew they were here, i would have 100% been there. Talk about an eerie feeling...

**allegro** · 11-15-2015, 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by DVYDRNS

I have been here since friday. Its intense out on the streets. Its quiet. Everything is closed. My flat is 3 blocks from where EODM were playing. Its pure fluke that I didn't know they were playing. Because I know those guys... and if i knew they were here, i would have 100% been there. Talk about an eerie feeling...

So glad you are safe and okay.

Meanwhile, Hezbollah chief Hassan Nasrallah condemned the Paris attacks and vowed retaliation for the Beirut bombings.

I'm having a hard time keeping track of this. It all appears to boil down to Shiite vs. Sunni, as usual. I think the US may have to switch teams at some point.

**richardp** · 11-14-2015, 11:24 AM

I totally understand the importance of the Mizzou racial situation happening in Missouri right now, and I think it's a very important situation in America right now, but this is fucking ignorant behavior. Have some decency and quit trying to compare tragedies. Disgusting.

http://www.barstoolsports.com/barsto...ion-than-them/

**Swykk** · 11-14-2015, 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by richardp

I totally understand the importance of the Mizzou racial situation happening in Missouri right now, and I think it's a very important situation in America right now, but this is fucking ignorant behavior. Have some decency and quit trying to compare tragedies. Disgusting.

http://www.barstoolsports.com/barsto...ion-than-them/

Leave it to fucking barstool...

I wish I had something more concrete to say but I'm afraid I'm knee-jerking and wishing we'd all just drop religious extremism and if you're religious, you privately practice it and don't talk about it all the time, posture, and do heinous shit in the name of whatever you're into. AKA Shit that'll never happen.

**kel** · 11-14-2015, 11:33 AM

that's infuriating. utter bullshit.

**Khrz** · 11-14-2015, 12:18 PM