Something really, really bad is happening in Paris right now. 18 dead so far... Shootings , Hostages, Explosions......this is some sort of major terror incident.
Something really, really bad is happening in Paris right now. 18 dead so far... Shootings , Hostages, Explosions......this is some sort of major terror incident.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34814203 ^^^
Reported death toll of 40 and climbing.
Last edited by Archive_Reports; 11-13-2015 at 04:26 PM. Reason: Additional Info
Apparently the hostage situation is taking place where Eagles of Death Metal were scheduled to play tonight...
Horrible news, all of them.
CoS says Josh Homme is not on the European tour.
My Chicago TV coverage is saying at least 50 are now dead from explosions and shootings across Paris.
Edit: CNN is now saying at least 60 are dead.
Now a radio station saying there has been a shooting at a shopping mall . 35 dead at the concert hall. This is terrifying shit.
President Hollande is declaring a national state of emergency, closing all borders to the country while police search for the suspects.
Situation at the concert hall very serious report from a person at the venue that it is carnage.
It was two suicide attacks at the stadium. At the at the entrance gate... 3 deaths.
I cant believe France has closed it boarders with Germany. its never done that.
Something is clearly very very wrong, it cant cope with the threat the way things are.. Despite them having an amazing intelligence agency.
Im amazed at the amount of attacks.
this is horrible to watch unfold from across the channel
Now explosions at the concert hall, the police should have stormed the place long ago, situation looks out of control.
Reports saying 100 dead inside the Bataclan theatre. Jesus Christ.
This reminds me of that Moscow theatre siege by Chechen Terrorists.
Reports of around 100 people killed inside the theatre. Absolutely sickening.
apparently the terrorists at the concert have been killed by police. The band/crew are reportedly safe.
edit: updated death toll is 118 confirmed dead from the concert
Last edited by Jinsai; 11-13-2015 at 06:38 PM.
About 140 killed in the attacks
Attack started at the Le Bataclan in the middle of the EODM set
http://pitchfork.com/news/62102-over...show-in-paris/
Last edited by miss k bee; 11-13-2015 at 08:10 PM.
Horrible. Shocking. Brazen. And the inevitable response: "French Cabinet Announces Sweeping New Security Powers in Paris Region" http://www.nytimes.com/live/paris-at...-paris-region/
Some good, collected sources and updates about the outbreak of shooting within the Bataclan during the Eagles of Death Metal show...
http://m.pitchfork.com/news/62102-ov...show-in-paris/
Please don't let this be the new normal.
A Russian plane was bombed 2 weeks ago....Something is not working...our approach to this is not working. Its been obvious for a long fucking time.
This is going to change things. I dont think anyone in Europe has any faith in Obama to take the lead.
Obama cannot do anything to help at this point. We're headed into election season. It's like a shitty year-long holiday where you cannot escape partisan bullshit non-stop.
Obama's entire presidency has been attacked for every decision he's even suggested. If Obama suggests additional military action in response to this, he'll be hounded for it and it won't accomplish anything, and then he'll get blamed for it not solving everything.
Ultimately, we're impotent at this point, and you can thank the GOP for our impotency. We're sorry, this has never happened before.
Also, this attack was strategically planned because they know America is about to go into "election hibernation mode"
Last edited by Jinsai; 11-14-2015 at 12:58 AM.
I think the USA not responding in some ill-advised manner is probably a good thing though as it just continues the cycle. My response to terrorism has always been to not let it change your daily life or make you constantly fearful because otherwise the terrorists have won, the aim is to spread terror. I'm from Warrington and was in the town when the bomb went off, ditto the July 7th London bombings, you just have to carry on
There is this sort of post cold war hangover mind set in Europe which is lazy and demands America to take control of situations. Its like we cant be bothered. We have lost a sense of self control, Germany is too passive damaged by its past, and cautious to do anything radical...Britain is damaged by its involvement in America with the Iraq war a d has taken a back seat in world affairs recently. And France is a mess. We cant rely on Russia its too fucked up.
I like Obama but he is powerless and the response from the U.S is utterly vacant feeble and useless and has no direction. , despite a few drone strikes here and there.
something needs to change in Europe.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...test-news.html
The Islamic State has just claimed responsibility. Whether or not it was really them to begin with would be anyone's guess, but the French president was already blaming them from the start.
Isil has said in a statement, written in French and Arabic, that France will remain a top target as long as it continues its policies, and the attacks were a response to insults of Islam's prophet and airstrikes in Isil territory.The statement says that the attackers were "targeting the capital of prostitution and obscenity, the carrier of the banner of the Cross in Europe, Paris".
In the French declaration, Isil said that the goal of the attacks was a "minimum of 200 dead".
Last edited by orestes; 11-14-2015 at 06:12 AM. Reason: thread merge
I heard something earlier about arrests being made in Germany and Belgium that are potentially connected to the attacks. I think ISIS may have dun goofed with this one since EVERYONE will be going after them now.
Footage of hostages escaping from the theatre, including two people hanging on for dear life on the side of the building from the windows. This is incredibly disturbing, so DO NOT WATCH IT if you think you can't stomach it.
World War III is nearing, i think.
I mean to say this world war you cannot compare with the two ww we had in the past, but what i want to say, is that there is already a war going on (a traditional military one, joined by several countries) around Syrie, Irak en Afghanistan, and that there will be more terroristic wars in all the cities in the world, which will be controlled by police and special forces. Very complexed, but this will be the reality for the next couple of years.
Here in Europe, I think the first action will be, that they'll do a reintroduction of the border controls or even close all borders to get some control.
Very sad...
Last edited by witte; 11-14-2015 at 11:14 AM.
It's hard not to react emotionally to these tragic events. Of course it'll take a days, probably weeks before we know exactly what happened. Who did what.
We all know the why ... or do we really?
According to some reports, one of the attacker was only 15 years old!! Whether this has been verified information remains to be seen but if true, I think we need reevaluate our actions abroad.
On one hand, if the coalition leaves the ME and completely stop intervening in any manner whatsoever, would we be letting them build a stronger network of terrorists like Al-Qaeda did in the past, resulting in an enemy who has the resources to plan much bigger attacks?
Would closing our borders solve this?
On the other hand, if we bomb the living shit out of Syria for example, are we breeding a new generation of terrorists? Terrorists who appear to have the ability to perpetrate smaller attacks but a lot more difficult to prevent.
Was this 15 years old's parents killed by our own bombs? Was he a normal kid who lost it all and is simply seeking revenge?
This is such a fucking complex situation. It's a fucking clusterfuck.
One thing is for sure, this cannot become the norm. We should not be living in fear of getting attacked in our country. We've been building our respective countries for centuries in a civilized (as best we can at least) manner. These people have their way of doing things, which is clearly much different than us. So how do we handle this?
My thoughts are with the families who lost a loved one yesterday. This sad beyond belief. Lives have been changed forever....
holy shit. terrifying and needless. what the fuck can we do? my heart is aching for you, france.
I totally understand the importance of the Mizzou racial situation happening in Missouri right now, and I think it's a very important situation in America right now, but this is fucking ignorant behavior. Have some decency and quit trying to compare tragedies. Disgusting.
http://www.barstoolsports.com/barsto...ion-than-them/