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    I wouldn't say they're gimmicky, unless they're up-mixes which is what happens when you can't find the extra tapes necessary for a release. This happened when Steven Wilson was assisting in putting together a box-set for Steve Hackett and none of the multi-tracks for two of the albums were available to be used in the new mixes.

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    Does the 5.1 mix of TDS stand up well at all? What I've heard of it I've not really been bowled over, but then again I'm not a bonafide expert about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onthewall2983 View Post
    Does the 5.1 mix of TDS stand up well at all? What I've heard of it I've not really been bowled over, but then again I'm not a bonafide expert about it.
    It's certainly one of a kind. I cannot recall a similar surround experience. Personally, I love it! But not everyone does.

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    Then maybe it's just my setup. Having just hearing some of it now, I noticed some drop-outs upfront a few times. The drop-outs are nothing new unfortunately, one time I was watching a Metallica video on Qello and when Kirk started soloing I could barely hear it at all, which is unique because I can usually hear everything on other concert discs and videos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onthewall2983 View Post
    Then maybe it's just my setup. Having just hearing some of it now, I noticed some drop-outs upfront a few times.
    That's so weird, I was coming into this thread to ask if anyone else has the same problem with The Downward Spiral. It's not my setup because all other 5.1 things I have play absolutely fine. But downward spiral has sounds just fade out way to early and then pop back in. It's really distracting because other than when that happens I adore it

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    Does the With Teeth disc have the same thing happen as well?

    I'm convinced something is sort of wrong with my TV as a it's what my system is plugged into, which has a speaker test and all of them come off equally sounding fine.

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    With Teeth sounds fine.

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    I wonder if Trent is not as enthusiastic about the format as some others are. TDS, With Teeth, the TSN soundtrack and the still-unreleased mix of The Fragile.

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    Well this is a pleasant surprise, I was under the impression that Kramer was opposed to surround mixes.
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    GASP! Moar Jimi in 5.1, pls, thx.

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    Fuck, the White Album in 5.1 is out, fuck fuck fuckk
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    Quote Originally Posted by botley View Post
    Fuck, the White Album in 5.1 is out, fuck fuck fuckk
    HELL YEAH! Also, Rutherford Chang's job just became harder.

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    Apparently the recent Moody Blues release is an upmix and a bad one at that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onthewall2983 View Post
    Apparently the recent Moody Blues release is an upmix and a bad one at that.
    Ugh. I hate upmixes. Anybody can make them with free software these days...

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    Quote Originally Posted by eversonpoe View Post
    @onthewall2983 you should definitely pick up the rest of the king crimson 5.1 CD/DVD sets. they're all really fantastic. discipline, in particular, because of the nature of the instrumentation on the album, really lends itself to surround.
    When I got the 81-84 box last year, I put on the Discipline blu mix and really liked it. There are moments in these mixes that really stand out and make the experience worthwhile. Tony Levin's backing vocal on "Frame By Frame" was one of those for me, and hearing them play it in Chicago at the show we went to really kind of brought it back for me. On the other hand, the one created for THRAK I haven't embraced yet, since I was not really bowled over by the new stereo mix, but I'll give it another shot at some point.

    I've bought quite a few CD/DVD sets this year that I haven't quite gotten to the surrounds yet. Namely for the sake of my dependence upon air-conditioning. The unit is so loud that I know it would ruin the experience. Soon as the cold weather sets in, I'll dig into what I got this year. Opeth's Ghost Reveries and Watershed, and Nosound's A Sense of Loss ​in particular.

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    Be careful, there. I seem to recall Ghost Reveries' 5.1 mix to be absolutely god-awful

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    I'm not as good at spotting bad ones (I revisited some of the Genesis titles I mentioned before, and changed my tune on those) but I did listen to a minute or two of it and wasn't really blown away. So, not surprised there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onthewall2983 View Post
    the one created for THRAK I haven't embraced yet, since I was not really bowled over by the new stereo mix, but I'll give it another shot at some point.
    Oh, my dude, it is 100% worth taking the THRAK journey in 5.1, I'd never heard a mix before where there were two drummers split up like that (one in the FRONT and one in the REAR). It's pretty trippy and immersive, in the best way.

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    if you can find them, i highly recommend the 3 surround mixes the flaming lips did. soft bulletin, yoshimi & mystics. especially soft bulletin.

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    I have those three, as well as the Blue Man Group albums. I liked Yoshimi the best, but then that's the album that introduced the band to me so of course I would.

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    i recently retired on disability so the big expensive deluxe sets are a thing of the past. that being said, a friend is sending me the blu ray of abbey road. looking forward to taking the atmos mix for a spin!

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    A lesser-known 5.1 mix that always mesmerizes me: Goldfrapp's "Tales of Us". Just... wow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wizfan View Post
    Be careful, there. I seem to recall Ghost Reveries' 5.1 mix to be absolutely god-awful
    It's not a particularly "awesome" mix. Most of the sound is front and center, with minimal surround activity. It's extremely close to a rechanneling rather than a full 5.1 mix. Also, it's not hi-res, so AC3 or DTS @ 640 Kbps.

    Waiting to receive my In Cauda Venenum box set; I've heard good things about the 5.1 mix.

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    The Beatles releases so far (Peppers, White, Abbey) have really annoyed me. It's been a real challenge tracking down the single 5.1 disc on the secondary market. I haven't even really tried yet with Abbey Road, but it really seems like a missed opportunity to not release them separately from the boxed set.

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    The boxes as a full package are worth it, and usually sold at decent prices second-hand. The book that came with the White Album set was a real page-turner for me.

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    don't remember if i've mentioned this in this thread before but the most disappointing 5.1 mixes i've ever heard are from the Pixies Minotaur box set. they basically sound like stereo mixes with a little bit of echo in the rear channels as if you're hearing the PA reflect off the back of the "venue"

    at least the vinyl in that box sounds good

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    Quote Originally Posted by onthewall2983 View Post
    The boxes as a full package are worth it, and usually sold at decent prices second-hand. The book that came with the White Album set was a real page-turner for me.
    Yeah, I like that book a lot, plus it came with the full-sized poster and portraits from the original album — and a hi-resolution flat transfer of the original mono master on the Blu-ray! Haven't got Pepper, but my super-deluxe Abbey Road is on its way... heard the Atmos multi-channel mix on that is outstanding.

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    listening to the atmos mix of abbey road right now. its a stunner!!!!

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