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    Speaking of sex trafficking and asshattery

    SO: I went down this rabbit hole starting with Brian Singer, when the
    wife and I were binge watching House.

    And I came across this bit of hearsay: Bret Easton Ellis alleged that two of his former partners attended "underage sex parties" hosted by Bryan Singer and Roland Emmerich. I didn't know Emmerich, but he directed a bunch of summer blockbusters I got a kick out of.

    There have been rumblings about such parties, in the conspiracy world, for as long as I've been interested, at least. Except, in the conspiracy theory version, there's usually some luciferian aspect, or the parties are hosted by the Rothschilds or some shit.

    I'm wondering, though, if the gatherings that Ellis mentioned are the truth of the matter, that has been hyperbolized.

    And, I wonder how common such things are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elevenism View Post
    And, I wonder how common such things are.
    Can't speak about what you posted but this question I can easily say they are more common than you think when wealth and desire mix. Money talks, bullshit walks.

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    Piggybacking off my last statement with a bold sentence:

    Mainstream conspiracy theory thinking of 2016-now has effectively and actively largely killed my interest in conspiracy theories as a hobby. Real shame too because they can be fun alternative ways of thinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Space Suicide View Post
    Piggybacking off my last statement with a bold sentence:

    Mainstream conspiracy theory thinking of 2016-now has effectively and actively largely killed my interest in conspiracy theories as a hobby. Real shame too because they can be fun alternative ways of thinking.
    It's when people stop treating them like fun alternate reality games and taking them seriously that they get really serious and dangerous. I have lost friends over this sort of thing, and it's a crazy slippery slope and a really thin line between "fun" and "I'm in a cult."

    I actually think this whole Qanon thing was created as a prank by someone "having fun." Also, I think the whole "Q" thing sprouted up because the very fact that Trump could be elected president already disproved about 99% of modern conspiracy theories, and so his supporters (conspiratorially inclined) needed a new theory where he is Captain America or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinsai View Post
    It's when people stop treating them like fun alternate reality games and taking them seriously that they get really serious and dangerous. I have lost friends over this sort of thing, and it's a crazy slippery slope and a really thin line between "fun" and "I'm in a cult."

    I actually think this whole Qanon thing was created as a prank by someone "having fun." Also, I think the whole "Q" thing sprouted up because the very fact that Trump could be elected president already disproved about 99% of modern conspiracy theories, and so his supporters (conspiratorially inclined) needed a new theory where he is Captain America or something.
    I fucking hate the QAnon conspiracy. I can't believe people have put weight into it to actually believe it. It originated on 4chan lmao.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Space Suicide View Post
    I fucking hate the QAnon conspiracy. I can't believe people have put weight into it to actually believe it. It originated on 4chan lmao.
    Qanon is what happens when you rip the carpet out from underneath the larger conspiracy theorist community. Trump becoming president was insane, impossible. All the conspiracy theorists were originally claiming he was a distraction during the election.

    Then he got elected, and suddenly, religious conservative conspiracy theorists started gloming on to this 4Chan poster claiming Trump is ... well, whatever kinda "hero" fighting the "deep state" and whatever... it's weird to watch conspiracy theorists grasp at straws as their elaborate crazy world view collapses in the wake of the lunacy they collectively endorsed... if they hadn't set up this "anything is possible! -> Building 7! -> 911 is an inside job! -> Obama wasn't born in America!-> The taliban is actually American soldiers and PMC in disguise -> Trump is on OUR SIDE! He's fighting the news to get us the truth!!!!!!!!

    FUCK this...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinsai View Post
    Qanon is what happens when you rip the carpet out from underneath the larger conspiracy theorist community. Trump becoming president was insane, impossible. All the conspiracy theorists were originally claiming he was a distraction during the election.

    Then he got elected, and suddenly, religious conservative conspiracy theorists started gloming on to this 4Chan poster claiming Trump is ... well, whatever kinda "hero" fighting the "deep state" and whatever... it's weird to watch conspiracy theorists grasp at straws as their elaborate crazy world view collapses in the wake of the lunacy they collectively endorsed... if they hadn't set up this "anything is possible! -> Building 7! -> 911 is an inside job! -> Obama wasn't born in America!-> The taliban is actually American soldiers and PMC in disguise -> Trump is on OUR SIDE! He's fighting the news to get us the truth!!!!!!!!

    FUCK this...
    My favorite thing about the Trump election was he was buddies with Alex Jones. Jones always talked shit about the government (mostly rightly so) with false information and opinions. He bad mouthed Obama and most major politicians from the 2005-2015. Then magically he had to change his opinion about US Government because he was now "friends" with the president.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Space Suicide View Post
    My favorite thing about the Trump election was he was buddies with Alex Jones. Jones always talked shit about the government (mostly rightly so) with false information and opinions. He bad mouthed Obama and most major politicians from the 2005-2015. Then magically he had to change his opinion about US Government because he was now "friends" with the president.

    That was all Roger Stone's plotting, and ironically, that's the REAL conspiracy here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Space Suicide View Post
    Piggybacking off my last statement with a bold sentence:

    Mainstream conspiracy theory thinking of 2016-now has effectively and actively largely killed my interest in conspiracy theories as a hobby. Real shame too because they can be fun alternative ways of thinking.
    DUDE. Amen.
    Having been in and around the conspiracy community since like, 2007, I am utterly baffled that the fucking MAJORITY of "truthers" are now full throated trump supporters.

    DONALD FUCKING TRUMP is the hero of the anti 1%, anti gvmt, anti illuminati cause?

    What in the actual fuck?

    Alex Jones supporting trump REALLY opened my eyes to this shit. Say what you will about him, but he hated Clinton. I got INTO conspiracy theory because of his anti Bush rhetoric and exposure of Bohemian Grove. And, he hated Obama. He hated ALL politicians. It was US and THEM.

    And, suddenly, it's left vs right, and 95% of the truthers are on the right.

    Meanwhile, the Trump Administration is committing all sorts of actual, real live, documented conspiracy type shit every fucking WEEK.

    It's mad disheartening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elevenism View Post
    DUDE. Amen.
    Having been in and around the conspiracy community since like, 2007, I am utterly baffled that the fucking MAJORITY of "truthers" are now full throated trump supporters.

    DONALD FUCKING TRUMP is the hero of the anti 1%, anti gvmt, anti illuminati cause?

    What in the actual fuck?

    Alex Jones supporting trump REALLY opened my eyes to this shit. Say what you will about him, but he hated Clinton. I got INTO conspiracy theory because of his anti Bush rhetoric and exposure of Bohemian Grove. And, he hated Obama. He hated ALL politicians. It was US and THEM.

    And, suddenly, it's left vs right, and 95% of the truthers are on the right.

    Meanwhile, the Trump Administration is committing all sorts of actual, real live, documented conspiracy type shit every fucking WEEK.

    It's mad disheartening.
    And here in Mexico is similar, people are mixing the Theories with the whole COVID thing, to the point it's also mixing with the politics.
    The whole thing is a mess, just like the "Pro-Trump Truthers" they are ignorant people thinking they have the "truth" because they watched a couple of Youtube videos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by henryeatscereal View Post
    And here in Mexico is similar, people are mixing the Theories with the whole COVID thing, to the point it's also mixing with the politics.
    The whole thing is a mess, just like the "Pro-Trump Truthers" they are ignorant people thinking they have the "truth" because they watched a couple of Youtube videos.
    Right, I posted this in the Trump thread, it's for total idiots who seem to love going into rabbit holes that make zero logical sense, yet they feel like they've stumbled into something "special" and "their eyes have been opened."

    https://time.com/5887437/conspiracy-...2020-election/

    SEE ALSO.


    I really do miss the days when "online" was reserved mostly for people who knew how to use UNIX commands, and editors like vi or Emacs, or at least just used a bus like AOL, and it wasn't totally filled with such horseshit. Making it more difficult really did filter out this preponderance of total shit.
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