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    Quote Originally Posted by elevenism View Post
    many 9/11 survivors and family members have questions about the accuracy of what we've been told.
    Did you read the link I provided up there in Post #45? http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-...ty-eight-pages

    The "use of explosives" is a total crock of shit. I've seen some amazing interviews and documentation from renowned architects and engineers, including the guy who designed the WTC, showing the design and schematics from those towers (I was at those towers shortly before they opened, then in them several times after they opened, ate lunch at the top a few times) and the fact that the buildings stood for as long as they did after jumbo jets fully loaded with jet fuel exploded in them is an architectural marvel, which saved literally thousands of lives. The intense heat from the burning jet fuel eventually melted the steel core on the floor where the jet crashed, which compromised the outer steel shell; the design of the towers was based on a "tube" effect that's kind of like a snake with supports slung through the middle; the trusses and supports melted and the concrete floors simply pancaked all the way down. These idiots online showing slo-mo collapse video and bleating about "dust cloud explosions not coming out from every floor" are discounting things like the very structure of the building, itself, the tight outer structure, the lack of windows (office residents constantly bitched about this for years), etc. And they also discount how many people survived and got out of those buildings. On any average morning at 9 a.m., over FIFTY THOUSAND PEOPLE worked in those two buildings, and the morning of September 11th was no exception.



    re JFK, I've been obsessed since I was a kid in the 60s (yeah, I was really little when Kennedy was shot, younger than John-John, watched JFK's funeral on TV, remember grandma crying). (Oh shut up, I'm the same age as Henry Rollins.) My opinion, based on tons of reading, tons of documentaries, tons of research: Oswald was the lone gunman, and Russia had nothing to do with it. Oswald was a TOTAL reject; even Russia didn't want him. He was a total failure.

    @elevenism , dude, we have to teach you how to do better online research :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by allegro View Post
    @elevenism, dude, we have to teach you how to do better online research :-)
    sometimes i don't wanna.

    so @allegro , you think that Oswald acted completely alone?

    The eyewitness i met told me that he was CERTAIN that there was only one gunman.
    I don't question that.
    I just wonder if someone put him up to it.

    He was a failure, yes, but a decent shot and a russian sympathizer who was pro cuba.
    Don't you think it's possible that russia tried to use him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by elevenism View Post
    sometimes i don't wanna.

    so @allegro , you think that Oswald acted completely alone?

    The eyewitness i met told me that he was CERTAIN that there was only one gunman.
    I don't question that.
    I just wonder if someone put him up to it.

    He was a failure, yes, but a decent shot and a russian sympathizer who was pro cuba.
    Don't you think it's possible that russia tried to use him?
    No. He wanted attention. He was a marksman in the U.S. military, but even the military didn't want him. The Soviets rejected his request for citizenship and shipped him off from Moscow to Minsk, the fucking Ukraine, the most boring place on the planet, to get rid of him. Then, he was being monitored by the KGB all the time. He wasn't a Russian sympathizer, he was a Marxist and an anti-capitalist.

    8 things you may not know about Lee Harvey Oswald
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    Quote Originally Posted by allegro View Post
    No. He wanted attention. He was a marksman in the U.S. military, but even the military didn't want him. The Soviets rejected his request for citizenship and shipped him off from Moscow to Minsk, the fucking Ukraine, the most boring place on the planet, to get rid of him. Then, he was being monitored by the KGB all the time. He wasn't a Russian sympathizer, he was a Marxist and an anti-capitalist.

    8 things you may not know about Lee Harvey Oswald
    I meant Russian sympathizer as a synonym for marxism and socialism...that he symathized with their ideology.
    I watched a really interesting episode of frontline the other day entitled Who Was LHO...i bet you've seen it, but if you haven't, you should watch it.

    in that list you linked, the "mixed feelings" about Kennedy has always been the most interesting.
    Why would a leftist kill a leftist leader?
    But his feelings about Cuba could have fueled that fire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by elevenism View Post
    Why would a leftist kill a leftist leader?
    THE KENNEDY CURSE!

    (insert spooky music here)

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