This maybe could be a conspiracy?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Elisa_Lam
Just saw this today and it has creeped me right the fuck out.
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This maybe could be a conspiracy?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Elisa_Lam
Just saw this today and it has creeped me right the fuck out.
I was nobody. Nothing.
Dude. I saw that thing awhile back, last year.Originally Posted by Archive_Reports
It is absolutely, straight up, the most terrifying thing i've ever seen.
I became obsessed with it, studying every angle of it. It even invaded my dreams.
It was terrible. I'm warning you, don't spend too much time looking at it. It will get under your skin,
i have no idea what happened.
But the bottom line is that there is something DEAD WRONG going on here... it terrifies me.
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Well after that build up....disapointed!
I was nobody. Nothing.
What do you mean? do more than watch the video. read about the case.
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i did...
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i haven't watched the video and don't really care to, but have read a lot about it in the last hour since I saw your post. Very unnerving really. How the F could she have gotten into the water tank in the first place?
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I believe she was indeed suffering from a mental illness that can explain her behavior in this video (which is still creepy, by the way).
However:
That is still unexplained. To the best of my knowledge, she could not have gotten in there by herself.
On another note: since I've very very old, I remember clearly the 80s. I remember when the Irangate scandal was all over the news. But I never truly understood who did what, when and where, with whom and who knew what... until last night when I read a nice little article by a French author who explained everything; a sort of Irangate/Contras for Dummies. And now I understand where @elevenism is coming from.
Related to that: Gary Webb's life was literally destroyed when he wrote Dark Alliance, to the point that he ended up killing himself. While there were errors in what he wrote, the basis of his claims was later proven to be true. The movie Kill the Messenger was made about this story.
I was nobody. Nothing.
Sorry for the double post, but is anyone here AWAKE? If you are, you know what i mean.
People are conditioned to call us "kooky conspiracy theorists" if we question ANYTHING the government does.
I've been accused of being an alarmist. Well, fuck. There is highly alarming shit going on.
We have extraction drills going on in florida.
We have a MASSIVE MILITARY BUILDUP in the southwest. We are more or less OCCUPIED down here.
The NSA is recording ALL of are communications of ANY kind and storing them FOREVER. Google and facebook are WORKING WITH THE FUCKING GOVERNMENT to build profiles on every american.
All of this shit is FACT.
What the fuck is jade helm for?
What the fuck do they know?
It pisses me off that this thread is a joke. WAKE UP.
THIS IS REALLY HAPPENING.
Hierba Gatera
Oh noes! The Black Man is trying to kills ALL of us and teh constistooshun!!
Every site (Infowars) that "reports news" like the above is xenophobic (Alex Jones) at the core. You do realize this, right?
Last edited by Baphomette; 08-01-2015 at 01:07 AM.
I was nobody. Nothing.
i do realize that, and it's been bothering me a lot.
not only are they xenophobic, they are right wing gun nuts. And that sucks.
If you noticed, i posted something about it on facebook, something to the effect of "some of us who are AWAKE are LEFTISTS." remember?
when i started paying attention to this shit, we were afraid of the RIGHT. Remember, 9/11 happened under Dubya, and so did the patriot act.
But i've come to believe that it's not about left and right, it's US and THEM.
All of that aside, @Miss Baphomette , you know what time it is. You've seen that Terms and Conditions movie.
And @BRoswell , i completely agree with you about the ratio of legit "conspiracies" to the insane ones.
I look for the kernels of truth. I look for hard facts. And it's hard to find in a sea of nut jobs.
I don't even like calling them "conspiracies" or "conspiracy theories."
It's more like "Disturbing Facts."
Last edited by elevenism; 08-01-2015 at 01:49 AM.
Hierba Gatera
Oh, I totally agree about the NSA stuff. Still don't know how it's possible to ANALYZE all of that data but I do believe it's being collected.
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Bipolar persona acting strangely? Yeah, that's a real mystery. I don't mean to diminish the tragic loss of a young life, but...really? It was either an episode, she was on drugs (that she either knowingly or unknowingly took), or both. Is it really that hard to believe that?
I was nobody. Nothing.
no drugs in her system.
also, i'm extremely bipolar and i don't act THAT strangely.
But for me, the really creepy part is how in the fuck she got on the roof (which was protected by an alarm) and into the cistern (which was so hard to access that workers had to CUT it open.) It would have been hard for someone ELSE to drag her up that little ladder and put her in there.
Add to this the fact that serial killer Richard Ramirez lived on THAT FLOOR of the hotel, as did serial killer Roger Unterweger. (you should know that guy, @Ryan . And nut up and watch the video. Watch it over and over and get obsessed with it and have nightmares about it and shit like i did)
And the Black Dahlia lived there too.
You can also throw in the disproportionate number of murders and suicides at the Cecil hotel over the years.
And finally, one more creepy coincidence. There was a TB outbreak a few blocks from the hotel about a week after they found her body. A TB test kit is called a LAM-ELISA.
So, @theimage13 , you can't take away all the weirdness from this one so easily.
I don't think this is a conspiracy.
At the risk of being laughed at, this whole thing borders on the supernatural, or perhaps some awful evil as yet undiscovered natural synchronicity.
I will say this...i watch a lot of youtube countdowns, and my tastes lean toward the dark side.
If this story is on one of the countdowns (and it's on a LOT of them,) i turn it off.
This case really, really got hold of my mind, time, and imagination. For days, it was the only thing i talked about, and all i did was research it.
Then i had awful nightmares about it.
Like i said before, there is just something fucking WRONG with this.
There is, appropriately, a horror movie about this case called The Bringing. It's still in production i think.
We should totally go there and try to solve it and make a documentary about it.
Watch the video @Ryan ....watch one with that creepy, sad music that people put in youtube videos about tragedy.
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Ghosts/demons. The end.no drugs in her system.
also, i'm extremely bipolar and i don't act THAT strangely.
But for me, the really creepy part is how in the fuck she got on the roof (which was protected by an alarm) and into the cistern (which was so hard to access that workers had to CUT it open.) It would have been hard for someone ELSE to drag her up that little ladder and put her in there.
Add to this the fact that serial killer Richard Ramirez lived on THAT FLOOR of the hotel, as did serial killer Roger Unterweger. (you should know that guy, @Ryan . And nut up and watch the video. Watch it over and over and get obsessed with it and have nightmares about it and shit like i did
And the Black Dahlia lived there too.
You can also throw in the disproportionate number of murders and suicides at the Cecil hotel over the years.
And finally, one more creepy coincidence. There was a TB outbreak a few blocks from the hotel about a week after they found her body. A TB test kit is called a LAM-ELISA.
So, @theimage13 , you can't take away all the weirdness from this one so easily.
I don't think this is a conspiracy.
At the risk of being laughed at, this whole thing borders on the supernatural, or perhaps some awful evil as yet undiscovered natural synchronicity.
I will say this...i watch a lot of youtube countdowns, and my tastes lean toward the dark side.
If this story is on one of the countdowns (and it's on a LOT of them,) i turn it off.
This case really, really got hold of my mind, time, and imagination. For days, it was the only thing i talked about, and all i did was research it.
Then i had awful nightmares about it.
Like i said before, there is just something fucking WRONG with this.
There is, appropriately, a horror movie about this case called The Bringing. It's still in production i think.
We should totally go there and try to solve it and make a documentary about it.
Watch the video @Ryan ....watch one with that creepy, sad music that people put in youtube videos about tragedy.
I was nobody. Nothing.
This is what i am afraid to say.
Did you watch the video?
Hierba Gatera
Yeah, that's not typical bipolar behavior. Schizophrenia possibly but it still doesn't explain how she got inside the water tank.
I was nobody. Nothing.
Bipolar disorder doesn't make it to where you can get through locked doors with alarms on them or get into shit that workers have to use tools to cut open to remove your dead body.
Bipolar disorder doesn't make a 5 ft or so tall woman of 100-120 lbs able to scale a sheer steel cylinder that is mounted on large concrete blocks and is eight feet tall, then open a heavy ass lid, then lower herself down into the tank and CLOSE the lid, a feat that would have been insanely difficult if not impossible according to the September issue of The Daily Maverick. I think ( i HOPE) @theimage13 just watched the elevator video and doesn't know the story.
I am fairly offended, as someone who has been diagnosed with bipolar disorder for 30 years.
I would hate to think that if i died a mysterious and tragic death and no one had ANY fucking idea how i died, that people would say "Ha! Didn't you hear? He had BIPOLAR DISORDER! Mystery my ass!"
The whole bipolar issue REALLY pisses me off in this case.
The police couldn't solve the case, so they ruled it an accidental drowning (with bipolar disorder as a "significant factor.")
Obviously, they just needed SOMETHING to write down.
It doesn't make any sense at all to include a fucking MENTAL disorder as part of the PHYSICAL cause of death.
That's like a death certificate that says MURDER...Coprophagia (feces-eating disorder.) important to note.
Whatever happened, i don't think it was a fucking accidental drowning.
Last edited by elevenism; 08-03-2015 at 05:46 AM.
Hierba Gatera
Bipolar disorder is not an emotional disorder. It's a mental disorder. Very different.
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Conspiracy theorists always sound like religious zealots to me. They both have their prophets and their sacred texts, and they both have trouble accepting evidence that contradicts their firmly held beliefs. People want to believe in conspiracy theories for the same reason people want to believe in a god: to feel special. They want to feel like they know something and see things that no one else sees. Oddly enough, you'll often find conspiracy theorists calling out religious types for being "sheep", which is pretty amusing considering how strongly and arrogantly they cling to their own beliefs. Also, much like religion, there's different factions of beliefs. In the world of conspiracies, nobody can seem to agree on anything. Seriously, go on YouTube right now and take a look at all the theories about what brought down the Twin Towers on 9/11. You've got everything from controlled demolition, to UFOs, to drones, to nuclear weapons, to the whole thing being an elaborate illusion projected into the minds of everyone watching. Conspiracy theorists are always begging people to take them seriously, but just like religious zealots, they tend to be tripped up by their own beliefs. That's not to say there HAVEN'T been conspiracies in the past, but the ratio of legit ones to the stuff that people talk about today is pretty insane.
I was nobody. Nothing.
sorry for double post, but check THIS
Everyone talks about 9/11, no one talks about this. The fucking SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT and the CITY insisted on a private investigation because they didn't believe the official narrative.
But it came out right before 9/11 and no one paid attention.
Similarly, there is so much about JFK, but the story of RFK's murder has way more holes in it, in my opinion.
False flags happen.
No one cares about the Gulf of Tonkin incident because it was so long ago, but it should scare the shit out of every one of us. The reason we went to Vietnam was an ABSOLUTE FUCKING LIE.
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Plane came down in england yesterday, everyone on board killed - members of bin ladens family
I'm sure people will have fun with that!
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this one ifun http://www.maydaymystery.org/mayday/texts/81-may1.html
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hre's a youtube
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Kojima troll campaign, duh.
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that she was drugged and lured up to the roof by someone who knew the location of the cameras?
I was nobody. Nothing.
@Ryan , all my theory is is a possibility of how she got up there. If you look at the photos of the roof, there is another part of the building that is higher than the water tanks.
Maybe there is a ladder going up to that part?
@Jinsai , perhaps, and someone who knew how to get on the roof without the alarm going off.
Okay, maybe this. Someone who worked at the hotel conspired to kill her with an accomplice.
The accomplice is stealthily chasing her. She's trying to hide from him in the elevator.
Then she sees the hotel worker. Maybe all that weird shit she is doing is her trying to silently signal to the worker that she is being pursued.
Then the worker says "don't worry, come with me."
He takes her up on the roof, and if there is a ladder, to the higher part of the roof.
And then the other dude comes and they kill her.
But i don't know.
Absent an explanation, this is STILL the creepiest fucking thing that i've ever seen in my life.
I don't know why, either. It just gets under your skin.
Ryan, when you said ghosts/demons before...i don't think i believe in fallen angels or spirits of the dead.
BUT, i think the prospect of interdimensional beings is very probable.
And this is one of those rare situations where, for me, a supernatural explanation is actually possible.
tempus est umbra in mente
just because someone drugged her and lured her up to the roof doesn't mean they were intending to kill her. Her death could have been accidental, and then in a "oh shit what do I do with the body?!" moment, found a way to ditch the corpse in the tank.
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Had never heard of Elisa Lam or seen that video before today...that is an extremely creepy video. And very bizarre..
Know its my head messing with me, but im making out all sorts of images in that elevator. Am i the only one who sees a face staring at her??? Obviously been tampered with.
She obviously knew someone really sick and dangerous. I think she lured. By someone who had been studying the hotel for a long time. Amazed the killer has covered it all up so well.
To say that hotel has an unfortunate history is an understatement. Its legendary for its gory history.
There was a Jack the Ripper copycat killer in London area where he did his killing too.
Whoever did this, executed it flawlessly, be interesting to find out how he/she got her in that water tank...
Fucking gross people drank that water too.
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Sorta semi-related to the Elisa Lam discussions.
http://bloody-disgusting.com/news/33...re-true-story/
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I don't see the elevator video as "creepy," at all. She is acting very child-like: putting her face nearly at the buttons like a 6-yr-old to push them, jumping back, standing in the corner smiling slyly like she just did something very naughty, seeing the elevator door isn't closing and then hopping back out; anybody who has observed children in elevators observes pretty much every.single.thing she does in and outside of this elevator. She seems to be in some kind of child-like mood or silly state, and none of it is creepy unless children creep you out.
And she's clearly outside the elevator pushing the "up" or "down" button making the door open and close, later.
The only weird thing is why the door stayed open that long when she's pushed that many buttons, except maybe she pushed the "door open" button as well as all those floor buttons. Dunno.
Last edited by allegro; 08-07-2015 at 05:21 PM.
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