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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbie solo View Post
    They basically need to leave the really fast numbers alone for an acoustic show. It'd be like Trent trying to do Gave Up or Wish acoustic. Just no.

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    I go way back with Metallica. Last time (summer 2017 stadium tour) they sounded great. Excellent show. The new "Justice" package is pretty good. I was at the Seattle show that has some songs on the live desk. Probably the best time I saw them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbie solo View Post
    They basically need to leave the really fast numbers alone for an acoustic show. It'd be like Trent trying to do Gave Up or Wish acoustic. Just no.
    Generally speaking sometimes fast can work for acoustic stuff, like this...



    But yeah, hard rock/metal doesn't translate as easily when it's so direct. Guns 'n Roses did "Welcome To The Jungle" at Neil Young's Bridge School Benefit, and aside from the questionable quality of the band anyway that is not a song you can unplug so easily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fillow View Post
    I want you to reimburse me for my wasted 2 minutes lol

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    the new remaster of "and justice for all" (the album itself) is like a sledgehammer to the brain. in a real good way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckrh View Post
    the new remaster of "and justice for all" (the album itself) is like a sledgehammer to the brain. in a real good way.
    So this is a new remaster? I thought maybe they did one a few years back but that may have just been a re-issue. I mentioned this to a friend at work and he seemed to think so as well. In any event I'm glad to see that I did indeed read whatever it was right. Will have to let him know and check it out for myself.

    *Just listened to ...yep.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pillfred View Post
    So this is a new remaster? I thought maybe they did one a few years back but that may have just been a re-issue. I mentioned this to a friend at work and he seemed to think so as well. In any event I'm glad to see that I did indeed read whatever it was right. Will have to let him know and check it out for myself.
    I'm curious too... maybe I put off buying the 45RPM a little while longer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrLobster View Post
    I'm curious too... maybe I put off buying the 45RPM a little while longer.
    Yes, it does sound better than the 2014 reissue. To my ears it sounds a bit punchier and more blended. Oh, fun fact... if you don't want to splurge on the boxed set version, the download code in the stand alone vinyl has the other 8 discs of material.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pillfred View Post
    So this is a new remaster? I thought maybe they did one a few years back but that may have just been a re-issue. I mentioned this to a friend at work and he seemed to think so as well. In any event I'm glad to see that I did indeed read whatever it was right.
    The last "round" of remasters was done by George Marino in 1995 (released in 1996); this included the first four albums (Kill 'Em All, Ride The Lightning, Master Of Puppets, and ...And Justice For All). The (original) Blackened reissues are exact copies of the Elektra releases manufactured from 1995 and on. This is verifiable by using something like AccurateRip, CueTools, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon View Post
    The last "round" of remasters was done by George Marino in 1995 (released in 1996); this included the first four albums (Kill 'Em All, Ride The Lightning, Master Of Puppets, and ...And Justice For All). The (original) Blackened reissues are exact copies of the Elektra releases manufactured from 1995 and on. This is verifiable by using something like AccurateRip, CueTools, etc.
    My credits for "...And Justice" are this:

    Mastered by Bob Ludwig at Masterdisk, New York.
    Remastered by Bob Ludwig at Lurssen Mastering, Los Angeles, CA.
    Vinyl Laquers by Chris Bellman at Bernie Grundman Mastering, Hollywood, CA.
    Reissues Executive Producer: Greg Fidelman

    So I'm not sure how that all fits in with the the above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrLobster View Post
    My credits for "...And Justice" are this:

    Mastered by Bob Ludwig at Masterdisk, New York.
    Remastered by Bob Ludwig at Lurssen Mastering, Los Angeles, CA.
    Vinyl Laquers by Chris Bellman at Bernie Grundman Mastering, Hollywood, CA.
    Reissues Executive Producer: Greg Fidelman

    So I'm not sure how that all fits in with the the above.
    You're looking at the credits for the latest remaster, yes? The newly remastered Blackened Recordings releases have an "R" in the catalog number. For instance, the original Blackened Recordings release for ...AJFA was BLCKND007-#. These are the ones that are exact copies of the Elektra discs. The new remaster for ...AJFA is BLCKND007R-#.

    Here's the copy of ...AJFA most people are probably familiar with, and has been repressed countless times: https://www.discogs.com/Metallica-An...elease/2362993

    Mastered by Bob Ludwig
    Remastered by George Marino at Sterling Sound, New York, NY

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon View Post
    You're looking at the credits for the latest remaster, yes?
    Yes (BLCKND007R-1), that's why I'm curious, because they do differ from what's already been posted and I'm trying to figure out how that integrates.

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    did anyone try for this one and got lucky?

    i sure didn't... and it now looks like another organized scalping scam.

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    So after going through my Metallica collection I've come to the conclusion that the Load / Reload / Garage Inc. / S&M era have the best production... and as a result, I tend to like those releases more.

    And I was kinda surprised about just how poetic / visual Metallica's lyrics tend to be (I've never really read the lyrics before, but for re-encoding my collection I typed up what I had...).
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    Quote Originally Posted by armogi View Post
    did anyone try for this one and got lucky?

    i sure didn't... and it now looks like another organized scalping scam.
    Absolute fucking disaster on my end. I was on the page about an hour before sale went live, joined the queue as soon as one could, had 2k+ folks in front of me, and by the time I could get on the seating chart page, everything I clicked on would get the "These seats have already been purchased by another fan" message. I tried everything for a good 30 minutes until I realized all that was left were the damn TM Resale seats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrLobster View Post
    So after going through my Metallica collection I've come to the conclusion that the Load / Reload / Garage Inc. / S&M era have the best production... and as a result, I tent to like those releases more.

    And I was kinda surprised about just how poetic / visual Metallica's lyrics tend to be (I've never really read the lyrics before, but for re-encoding my collection I typed up what I had...).
    Load era is super fucking underrated.

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    Was just listening to Bleeding Me and Outlaw Torn from the S&M DVD. To me, that's the best that Metallica ever was. I am not a metal fan and realize how ridiculous that might sound for fans of their 80's records. But I don't really give a fuck anymore. Seems like I've spent half of my life arguing with narrow-minded Metallica fans. I love most of their stuff (sans St. Anger) and it doesn't matter how "simple" Lars' drumming is or how "bad" the production on certain albums are. They are a treasure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Failure View Post
    Was just listening to Bleeding Me and Outlaw Torn from the S&M DVD. To me, that's the best that Metallica ever was. I am not a metal fan and realize how ridiculous that might sound for fans of their 80's records. But I don't really give a fuck anymore. Seems like I've spent half of my life arguing with narrow-minded Metallica fans. I love most of their stuff (sans St. Anger) and it doesn't matter how "simple" Lars' drumming is or how "bad" the production on certain albums are. They are a treasure.
    Agreed. S&M is one of my favorite things in music ever. Just wish they would have done The Unforgiven for that... maybe with the new one.

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    If they don't do The Unforgiven III, it'll be a huge missed opportunity IMO. Of the material released since the original S&M, that song stands out as one that would lend itself extremely well to the S&M treatment. Other songs that I'd like to see featured (that haven't already been on the first S&M) include Fade to Black, Welcome Home (Sanitarium), The Unforgiven, My Friend of Misery, Low Man's Lyric, Mama Said, King Nothing, Turn the Page, The Unnamed Feeling, The Day That Never Comes, The Unforgiven II, Now That We're Dead, Dream No More, Halo on Fire.

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    Mama Said and My Friend of Misery, yes please.

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    Props to them on the second show, That Is a cool second chance.

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