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    *raises hand* Brought the '94 Star Trek Encyclopedia into school with me, in Grade Two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by botley View Post
    *raises hand* Brought the '94 Star Trek Encyclopedia into school with me, in Grade Two.
    I still have mine, somewhere around the house. I took it to school daily in elementary school, we all pretended we were ship captains.

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    I'm a bit skeptical but will give it a chance. Looks like they're trying to take the Rick & Morty route.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Z View Post


    I'm a bit skeptical but will give it a chance. Looks like they're trying to take the Rick & Morty route.
    Looks really bad, but I'll give it a shot.

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    The visual style of that show reminds me of Final Space.


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    R.I.P. Regis


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    Bless you Alexander Siddig, bless you.

    https://trekmovie.com/2020/08/04/wat...-in-character/

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    Just watched the premiere of Lower Decks. I thought it was really funny and enjoyable.

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    Just saw the first episode of Lower Decks and would give it a 1.5/5. I found it to be mostly unfunny, with very few of the jokes landing. The characters were all one-one dimensional cliches, with the character Beckett Mariner particularly grating. If they wanted to make a sci-fi comedy cartoon for adults, they should had Seth MacFarlane write the show--his jokes usually land, he wrote some great stories for The Orville and he loves and understands Star Trek.

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    I keep seeing it being compared to Red Shirts by John Scalzi but then I follow him on twitter so of course I keep seeing that.



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    I know some people here have said they don't like RLM bc of their negativity & snark. Totally fair points. THIS video has none of that. Just their deep knowledge & love for TNG is on display here. Again I don't watch Trek really at all but I watches this whole video bc their takes on the show are still so entertaining.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbie solo View Post
    I know some people here have said they don't like RLM bc of their negativity & snark. Totally fair points. THIS video has none of that. Just their deep knowledge & love for TNG is on display here. Again I don't watch Trek really at all but I watches this whole video bc their takes on the show are still so entertaining.
    I love the RLM guys. I watched that Star Trek video despite the fact that I hadn't seen most of the episodes they cover and the ones I had seen, I haven't seen in decades and barely remember. I may not always agree with their opinions, but their reviews are usually pretty spot on.

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    CBS will air season one of Discovery this fall, 9/24.
    https://nypost.com/2020/08/26/cbs-ta...day-at-a-time/

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    I've warmed up a little to Lower Decks. I still kind of think that a lot of the jokes don't land and it tries too hard, but it's grown on me. I sort of "get" the show a little more now and despite its flaws, it has an off-beat kind of charm.

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    New Discovery Season 3 trailer:

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    Quote Originally Posted by GulDukat View Post
    I've warmed up a little to Lower Decks. I still kind of think that a lot of the jokes don't land and it tries too hard, but it's grown on me. I sort of "get" the show a little more now and despite its flaws, it has an off-beat kind of charm.
    Yeah, i have kinda gotten into it now. i was VERY skeptical at first and almost threw in the towel a few minutes into the first episode. the pace and frantic nature of some of the characters was just a little overwhelming. but... now i'm mostly enjoying it. I once tried to watch an episode of Rick and Morty because everyone seemed to think it was amazing, but i couldn't take the fast-yelling dialogue and bouncing off the walls pacing of what i saw. i suppose i should give it another chance too.

    RE the season 3 trailer for Disco... idk what to think. i'll watch it. i'm somewhat interested in the idea that they are out of place in time trying to explain what Star Fleet stands for and is all about while being part of a show that has been a little more action/soap-opera-drama than what i think Star Trek is all about and stands for. That said, i have found Discovery enjoyable to watch even if i don't hold it in the same esteem as some of the other series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by talkingnothing View Post
    RE the season 3 trailer for Disco... idk what to think. i'll watch it. i'm somewhat interested in the idea that they are out of place in time trying to explain what Star Fleet stands for and is all about while being part of a show that has been a little more action/soap-opera-drama than what i think Star Trek is all about and stands for. That said, i have found Discovery enjoyable to watch even if i don't hold it in the same esteem as some of the other series.
    I like that season 3 is set 900 years in the future. Prequels are hard, tip-toeing around canon, especially when you already have established characters like Spock. Now Discovery has a blank canvas. Plus since it's set so far in the future from TNG/DS9/Voy, Picard and any other new shows/movies set during that time don't have to worry about contradicting events that happen in this season of Discovery.

    Of all the new shows, I am most looking forward to seeing the adventures of Pike/Spock/Number 1 in Strange New Worlds. That show looks like it will be a lot of fun, less drab than Discovery/Picard, and it will be episodic too, not serialized, like old-school Trek.
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    After the crushing disappointment of Picard and the fair-to-middling but promising outings of Discovery so far, I find myself very excited for a blank canvas third season for the show. No canon to weave between, finally, in a year that, historically, is where Star Trek shows start to get good (obviously excluding TOS, though I suppose I should state for the record that I've only seen a smattering of Original Series episodes and I didn't like any of them).

    Season Three is where Next Gen really pulled things together for more than just a few stray episodes and righted the often rickety ship; Season Three is where Deep Space Nine really started to take off and become something truly fantastic (and occasionally revolutionary for pre-prestige TV); Season Three of Voyager is where it starts to be more than just an unloved child; and Season Three of Enterprise was some of the best Trek out there. There's been plenty of turbulence in the Discovery showrunning team and writers' room which could conceivably throw off that "schedule" but, as of this moment, I'm pumped.

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    With the exception of TOS, which really hit the ground running with the outstanding first season, which continued with season two before a drop in quality for season 3, all of the Star Trek series got better over time (although I liked season 1 better than season 2 of Discovery).

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    Quote Originally Posted by GulDukat View Post
    With the exception of TOS, which really hit the ground running with the outstanding first season, which continued with season two before a drop in quality for season 3, all of the Star Trek series got better over time (although I liked season 1 better than season 2 of Discovery).
    I agree, to a point. It seems like each series hits a point of diminishing returns and does some uncomfortable flailing as it nears its conclusion. The bad episodes in the sixth and seventh seasons of Next Gen, Deep Space Nine, and Voyager are embarrassingly bad. Someone I knew who was not a Trek fan but knew I was once decided, for my sake, to not change the channel when Next Generation came on and they called me after the episode to say they'd finally seen one. The episode? A Fistful of Datas.

    Actually, after Fair Haven, Captain Proton, and Vic Fontaine, the one reason I was happy that Discovery would be a prequel was that it presumably meant no goddamned late-season the-writers-don't-feel-like-doing-Trek-so-let's-do-the-holodeck episodes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sesquipedalism View Post
    I agree, to a point. It seems like each series hits a point of diminishing returns and does some uncomfortable flailing as it nears its conclusion. The bad episodes in the sixth and seventh seasons of Next Gen, Deep Space Nine, and Voyager are embarrassingly bad. Someone I knew who was not a Trek fan but knew I was once decided, for my sake, to not change the channel when Next Generation came on and they called me after the episode to say they'd finally seen one. The episode? A Fistful of Datas.

    Actually, after Fair Haven, Captain Proton, and Vic Fontaine, the one reason I was happy that Discovery would be a prequel was that it presumably meant no goddamned late-season the-writers-don't-feel-like-doing-Trek-so-let's-do-the-holodeck episodes.
    I really liked the later-day seasons of all the series. I actually really liked "A fisful of Datas," a really fun episode (and this was before the holodeck stories were done to death). I know some fans really didn't like Vic Fontane, but I had no problem with him or the episodes set in his casino. It was a little bit of levity in an otherwise dour/dramatic time for the show (the Dominion War) and I feel it worked well. Captain Proton I could do without, but there are only a few of those. I thought some of the best episodes were in seasons 6/7 of TNG/DS9/Voy, just really tight, well written stories. So it's a little bit surprising that the first season of Enterprise, which was was made right after, was relatively weak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GulDukat View Post
    I really liked the later-day seasons of all the series. I actually really liked "A fisful of Datas," a really fun episode (and this was before the holodeck stories were done to death). I know some fans really didn't like Vic Fontane, but I had no problem with him or the episodes set in his casino. It was a little bit of levity in an otherwise dour/dramatic time for the show (the Dominion War) and I feel it worked well. Captain Proton I could do without, but there are only a few of those. I thought some of the best episodes were in seasons 6/7 of TNG/DS9/Voy, just really tight, well written stories. So it's a little bit surprising that the first season of Enterprise, which was was made right after, was relatively weak.
    Oof. No one will ever sell me on "Fistful of Datas." I didn't even like it when I was a kid. Good to know there's someone out there who loves it, I suppose.

    As for Vic, I really enjoyed the dour and dramatic tone of most of Seasons Six and Seven of DS9 and didn't want the guy there to let air into (or out of?) the room. But I also really, really liked Moore's update of Battlestar, which was pretty plainly informed by his time on DS9 (which I didn't watch in its entirety until after), and wished the DS9 crew had been handled with such consistent seriousness. It was like the more dark the show got in general, the more they felt the filler episodes had to be over the top ridiculous. By the end of the show, I was praying for the Dominion to destroy all the holosuites and the Ferengi along with them.

    Give me dying main characters, religio-political intrigue, and Nog's PTSD 26 hours a day, baby.*

    I would kill for all of these franchises with huge legions of (primarily?) grown-up fans to release adult-exclusive shows: I would have killed for a DS9 that didn't have to worry about network, ratings, or young audiences to say nothing of what I'd do for grown-up Star Wars.


    *THAT was an excellent use of a holodeck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sesquipedalism View Post
    Oof. No one will ever sell me on "Fistful of Datas." I didn't even like it when I was a kid. Good to know there's someone out there who loves it, I suppose.

    As for Vic, I really enjoyed the dour and dramatic tone of most of Seasons Six and Seven of DS9 and didn't want the guy there to let air into (or out of?) the room. But I also really, really liked Moore's update of Battlestar, which was pretty plainly informed by his time on DS9 (which I didn't watch in its entirety until after), and wished the DS9 crew had been handled with such consistent seriousness. It was like the more dark the show got in general, the more they felt the filler episodes had to be over the top ridiculous. By the end of the show, I was praying for the Dominion to destroy all the holosuites and the Ferengi along with them.

    Give me dying main characters, religio-political intrigue, and Nog's PTSD 26 hours a day, baby.*

    I would kill for all of these franchises with huge legions of (primarily?) grown-up fans to release adult-exclusive shows: I would have killed for a DS9 that didn't have to worry about network, ratings, or young audiences to say nothing of what I'd do for grown-up Star Wars.


    *THAT was an excellent use of a holodeck.
    I kind of feel like nu-Trek (Discovery, Picard) has been heavily influenced by Battlestar Galactica. The newer Trek shows feel more like BG than 90's Trek. Strange New Worlds is said to have a more retro, classic Trek feel. I can't wait to see it.

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