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    Hi, trans man here, there is 0 reason to cast a woman to play a man in this instance. Ruiner has done a wonderful job explaining why this is a problem and why people are mad about the decision, and if you can't understand after reading those messages, my far less calm tone isn't going to help.
    Should we be mad at the higher-ups who made this decision? Yes. And we are. We aren't blaming Scarlett for the casting decision. We're blaming her for taking the role. And if she didn't, and some other woman was cast, we would be blaming her instead.

    The character is a man. Do not cast a woman to play the part. Hard stop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by icklekitty View Post
    glad to be a Kylie fan
    Oh THAT Kylie. I got you.

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    Let me say first that Scarlet Johansson has done some other things that have rubbed me the wrong way. She still wears clothes designed by Harvey Weinstein 's wife. She publicly defends Woody Allen. And her response to this controversy wasn't very fucking endearing. So I think she knows EXACTLY what she's doing and doesn't care. At first I thought the backlash was a bit much, but upon looking into it, it is deserved.

    Ok here is my question: would it be better if a cis man played the role? I know it wouldn't be as good as an actual transgender person, but would it be a little more acceptable?

    Please understand that this isn't a rhetorical question and I'm not trying to make some clever point.

    I'm trying to educate myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elevenism View Post
    Let me say first that Scarlet Johansson has done some other things that have rubbed me the wrong way. She still wears clothes designed by Harvey Weinstein 's wife. She publicly defends Woody Allen. And her response to this controversy wasn't very fucking endearing. So I think she knows EXACTLY what she's doing and doesn't care. At first I thought the backlash was a bit much, but upon looking into it, it is deserved.

    Ok here is my question: would it be better if a cis man played the role? I know it wouldn't be as good as an actual transgender person, but would it be a little more acceptable?

    Please understand that this isn't a rhetorical question and I'm not trying to make some clever point.

    I'm trying to educate myself.
    There is a growing pool of Trans actors and actresses who would be perfect for this role. ScarJo being snippy that people are coming after her for taking this role is classic Becky behavior. No cis people at all - hire Trans performers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elevenism View Post
    Please understand that this isn't a rhetorical question and I'm not trying to make some clever point.
    I feel we shouldn't apologize for asking questions. It's not some educate yourself, fool, everyone knows this topic.

    Btw, Meryl Streep gave a standing ovation to Roman Polanski and some people are still starstruck with her. At the very least Scarlett can just simply dig those clothes, which is far less worse, than clapping a rapist.

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    Ok here is my question: would it be better if a cis man played the role? I know it wouldn't be as good as an actual transgender
    person, but would it be a little more acceptable?
    Absolutely.

    I think it would be best if a trans man got the part, because we are very underrepresented, which I had mentioned before, but, as Sick Among The Pure said, the character is a man. So he should be played by a man. Period. There would still be discussion and debate and probably some controversy but it would eliminate a huge chunk of the problem here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elevenism View Post
    Let me say first that Scarlet Johansson has done some other things that have rubbed me the wrong way. She still wears clothes designed by Harvey Weinstein 's wife. She publicly defends Woody Allen. And her response to this controversy wasn't very fucking endearing. So I think she knows EXACTLY what she's doing and doesn't care. At first I thought the backlash was a bit much, but upon looking into it, it is deserved.

    Ok here is my question: would it be better if a cis man played the role? I know it wouldn't be as good as an actual transgender person, but would it be a little more acceptable?

    Please understand that this isn't a rhetorical question and I'm not trying to make some clever point.

    I'm trying to educate myself.
    Yes, if they insisted on casting a cis actor for the role, it should be a cis man as the character is a man. I'm not saying "they need to cast a trans actor for every trans role ever forever the end" because I know that's just not going to happen right now. If they are going to cast a cis actor, at least cast a fucking man to play the role of a man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Volband View Post
    I feel we shouldn't apologize for asking questions. It's not some educate yourself, fool, everyone knows this topic.
    Yeah, but I just wanted to make clear that it WAS an actual question. And I didn't apologize.

    Dude there's nothing wrong with asking people who feel personally affected by an issue about their thoughts on said issue. I think it's a good thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by elevenism View Post
    Yeah, but I just wanted to make clear that it WAS an actual question. And I didn't apologize.

    Dude there's nothing wrong with asking people who feel personally affected by an issue about their thoughts on said issue. I think it's a good thing.
    Yeah. I don't agree with their reasoning, but I got my answers, so at least I am aware now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Volband View Post
    I feel we shouldn't apologize for asking questions. It's not some educate yourself, fool, everyone knows this topic.

    Btw, Meryl Streep gave a standing ovation to Roman Polanski and some people are still starstruck with her. At the very least Scarlett can just simply dig those clothes, which is far less worse, than clapping a rapist.
    Oh, so we should give her a pass on causing harm to a marginalized community becase it's not as bad as rape? Wat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theruiner View Post
    Oh, so we should give her a pass on causing harm to a marginalized community becase it's not as bad as rape? Wat.
    Never said that. Merely grabbed the opportunity to shed some light on a hypocrisy. It's not either or.

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    Honestly, who cares who plays a transgender? It's just a film role. I can't believe people are getting angry over Scarlett Johansson playing a transgender man. Honestly, it's just a role. If they can get a man to play that part, fine. Still at the end of the day, it's a business. If you want people to watch a movie about a transgender pimp, get whoever you can that can bring a wide audience. I honestly don't know why people are really upset over this. If they can get a transgender person to play that role with a top-notch director with a certain pedigree. Fine. Stop with this political correctness bullshit. I'm fucking tired of you SJWs acting like whiny little bitches.

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    I'm fucking tired of you SJWs acting like whiny little bitches.
    Can I guess that you're cis? So you're telling people who are in a marginalized community that we're being "whiny little bitches"? You privilege is showing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theruiner View Post
    Can I guess that you're cis? So you're telling people who are in a marginalized community that we're being "whiny little bitches"? You privilege is showing.
    What the fuck is a cis? Honestly, I can't keep up with all of this shit. Transgender, transsexual, cisgender? What's the fucking difference? It's like everyone saying they're this and that. Fuck this 21st Century correctness mentality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thevoid99 View Post
    What the fuck is a cis? Honestly, I can't keep up with all of this shit. Transgender, transsexual, cisgender? What's the fucking difference? It's like everyone saying they're this and that. Fuck this 21st Century correctness mentality.
    Honestly, I can't facepalm you enough for these posts.

    You're asking a community to relegate themselves to a "trend" and tell them to shut up and deal with it when a straight white female decides to take on a film role as a man who started off as a woman. Get out of here with that nonsense.

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    What the fuck is a cis? Honestly, I can't keep up with all of this shit. Transgender, transsexual, cisgender? What's the fucking difference? It's like everyone saying they're this and that. Fuck this 21st Century correctness mentality.
    Are you transgender? If not then you're cis.

    Honestly, you complain about us whining but the only person I see having a meltdown in this thread is you. I'm so terribly sorry that the very real issues faced by trans people on a daily basis annoy you as a cis person. I can't even begin to imagine how hard that must be for you/ Here, have a tissue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lt. Randazzo View Post
    Honestly, I can't facepalm you enough for these posts.

    You're asking a community to relegate themselves to a "trend" and tell them to shut up and deal with it when a straight white female decides to take on a film role as a man who started off as a woman. Get out of here with that nonsense.
    I'm sorry but why do we have to label this and that? Weren't any of you the ones praising Bruce Jenner for being a woman or something when he hasn't done shit to support this community?

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    Ok, first of all, it's Caitlyn Jenner and she. Secondly, do you also get pissed off at the label "straight" for heterosexuals?

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    Goddamn @thevoid99 . that's harsh talk.
    these are your peers, man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thevoid99 View Post
    What the fuck is a cis? Honestly, I can't keep up with all of this shit. Transgender, transsexual, cisgender? What's the fucking difference? It's like everyone saying they're this and that. Fuck this 21st Century correctness mentality.
    Dude, you should try to keep up. I always try. Iím not always up on things and I donít always do it correctly but if you donít at least try and are so hateful toward something you donít understand and donít want to, youíre already the grouchy old man yelling at the kids on your lawn.

    Please donít be that guy. Weíve been friendly here for years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theruiner View Post
    Ok, first of all, it's Caitlyn Jenner and she. Secondly, do you also get pissed off at the label "straight" for heterosexuals?
    No, it's Bruce. He/she will always be Bruce and we all know he changed his sex to avoid some manslaughter charge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thevoid99 View Post
    No, it's Bruce. He/she will always be Bruce and we all know he changed his sex to avoid some manslaughter charge.

    I’m at the gym right now so I don’t have the time to go off on how much of a fucking idiot you’re being right now. Do us both a favor and delete that dumbass bullshit before I get home and have the time to properly tear you several new ones.

    oh, and suck my entire cock.
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    I'm so tired of this PC SJW BULLSHIT. If I am expected to refer to people with their correct gender pronouns, WHAT IS NEXT? Treating folks who have a different lived experience than me like people?! WHEN WILL IT STOP?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by thevoid99 View Post
    No, it's Bruce. He/she will always be Bruce and we all know he changed his sex to avoid some manslaughter charge.
    No, it's Caitlyn, and while I think she's generally short-sighted and kinda dumb, I still respect her name and her gender. It's common courtesy. Find some.

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    DUDE! This is not the @thevoid99 I've come to know here. What in the hell are you doing, man?
    we all want to be treated with respect, to feel good about ourselves. And there are things that hurt and offend each of us.
    And out of fucking nowhere, you are saying things that are hateful and cause hurt to, like I said, YOUR PEERS.

    Why?

    You're a liberal aren't you? A leftist?
    And don't you have Latin blood? How would YOU feel if one of us started making nasty, racist comments about Hispanic folk? See, we wouldn't do that shit!

    Why in the fuck are you doing this?
    I'm genuinely shocked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elevenism View Post
    DUDE! This is not the @thevoid99 I've come to know here...
    My feelings exactly. I don't know what going on but this is so not like the @thevoid99 that I know and appreciate...

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    Quote Originally Posted by marodi View Post
    My feelings exactly. I don't know what going on but this is so not like the @thevoid99 that I know and appreciate...
    is it possible that he's been hacked? I'm kind of stunned that he would even say SJW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thevoid99 View Post
    Honestly, who cares who plays a transgender? It's just a film role. I can't believe people are getting angry over Scarlett Johansson playing a transgender man. Honestly, it's just a role. If they can get a man to play that part, fine. Still at the end of the day, it's a business. If you want people to watch a movie about a transgender pimp, get whoever you can that can bring a wide audience. I honestly don't know why people are really upset over this. If they can get a transgender person to play that role with a top-notch director with a certain pedigree. Fine. Stop with this political correctness bullshit. I'm fucking tired of you SJWs acting like whiny little bitches.
    People are frustrated by it because trans people have a hard enough time getting jobs. Not just in acting, but really everywhere. I googled a few minutes ago and the stats I'm seeing are really sad. Transgender folks have much higher rates of unemployment. So when influential art mediums like film choose to tell a story about a man who is trans and have an opportunity to hire a trans person for that role, it's insulting for them to choose a cisgendered woman. It's insulting to the trans community, it's insulting to the person who they are actually telling the story about too. It's not about "political correctness" or "SJW" anything - it's about being logical (story about a man who was trans? Hire a trans man to play the role, duh) but it's also about being gracious to a group of people who have been historically ignored at best and treated pretty viciously at worst.

    To make the bite more painful - Hollywood makes a lot of money off the trends that the LGBT community set and the stories they tell, but it's unusual for that community to reap the financial benefits of their contributions to pop culture at large.

    It doesn't harm you to learn about what other people deal with on a regular basis. Others speaking up out of concern for a marginalized group doesn't take anything from you. It doesn't cost anyone anything to be kind. That's all that's being requested here. Nobody is saying that we should cut Scarlett Johansson's head off - only that it was wrong that she got the role.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thevoid99 View Post
    No, it's Bruce. He/she will always be Bruce and we all know he changed his sex to avoid some manslaughter charge.

    Ok, so you want to send me a PM about how I'm talking about things I don't know about, but you think I'll just let this shit slide? Ok then kiddo, let's play that game.
    Tell me about how transitioning somehow negates a murder charge. Tell me all about how going through the years of paperwork beyond the medical things, tell me how in all that paperwork somehow makes it so you can get away with murder. Or fraud. Or any criminal act. You know we have to have our entire past combed through before the government will even look at our case? You know if we even have anything on the books, that makes it 100x harder to move forward because they're paranoid as fuck about the idea that we may be doing this to deceive anyone (I was warned that by simply HAVING loans would make my name change take longer and I would have to fight harder because "maybe you're doing this to circumvent your loan"). Do you actually know a single god damn thing about what trans people go through in order to transition, let alone the reasons why? You want to talk about speaking "about things you don't fucking know"? Because that's literally what you've been doing in here. And we ALL called you out on your bullshit. And now you're pissed. Maybe take the opportunity to learn from it instead of lashing out like a little kid.

    No matter how much you wine and cry and throw a tantrum, Caitlyn is Caitlyn. She is not Bruce. She is not "he". She is she. Nothing you can say will change that truth.
    I don't like her. Honestly, I fucking hate her. But she is who she is.


    You don't know why she transitioned, and your attitude here has proven you probably don't know why ANY of us do. I know nothing I say will actually get through to you, and at the end of the day, I'm really just doing this so everyone else can see how completely pathetic your tantrum here was.
    Trans people are real, their identity is valid, their experience is one you don't want to understand and I am ok with that. If someone wants to understand, if they want to communicate, if they want to learn, ask anyone: I am more than happy to talk and educate and help. But when you go around pulling this shit I will hold nothing back and roast your ass because I have had to protect my brothers and sisters in the streets, so I sure as hell will stand up for them online. Even if I hate the person, you will not try that bullshit transphobic talk about her in here and not get called the fuck out.
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    Also, her name is legally Caitlyn so that is literally JUST transphobia backing up that insipid, tired statement.

    Also also, dude, where the fuck did this come from?

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