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    Quote Originally Posted by dvdglss View Post
    I only want it for the artwork. I love the art so much...
    oh, then you should absolutely get the CD boxed set, that comes with a bunch of extra art AND a decoupage kit!

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    First show of the tour's happening now. Bill sounds really, really good and there's been stuff like Siva and Rhinoceros, Eye.

    Going to bed because headache but I can't wait to see the while thing tomorrow morning.

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    I was at tonight’s show. Holy fuck! Awesome!!They played for over three hours, and sounded great. Great production, too.

    I’ll post more in the morning.

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    Holy crap. What a setlist lol

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    Videos and setlist.

    The setlist is indeed, bonkers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caca View Post
    I was at tonight’s show. Holy fuck! Awesome!!They played for over three hours, and sounded great. Great production, too.

    I’ll post more in the morning.
    Do you remember what time they hit the stage? There's no opener, right?

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    The Smashing Pumpkins

    Last night’s setlist:

    Disarm
    Rocket
    Siva
    Rhinoceros
    Space Oddity (David Bowie cover)
    Drown
    Zero
    The Everlasting Gaze
    Stand Inside Your Love
    Thirty-Three
    Eye
    Soma
    Blew Away
    For Martha
    To Sheila
    Mayonaise
    Porcelina of the Vast Oceans
    Landslide (Fleetwood Mac cover)
    Tonight, Tonight
    Stairway to Heaven (Led Zeppelin cover)
    Cherub Rock
    1979
    Ava Adore
    Try, Try, Try
    The Beginning Is the End Is the Beginning
    Hummer
    Today
    Bullet With Butterfly Wings
    Muzzle

    Encore:
    Solara
    Baby Mine (Disney cover)

    The band was really into it. Lots of smiles. Not much chatter (James joked around a bit), but they seemed happy to be there.

    I’ll be honest: my expectations were pretty low, but my jaw hit the floor several times. Everyone sounded great.

    I want to keep the production side of it spoiler free, but I’m sure there are plenty of videos on YouTube by now, if you’re curious. I’ll just say that the stage changes throughout the show, and that the visuals are very cool. Billy’s affinity for pomp and circumstance is on full display.

    If I had to nitpick, there were a couple of lulls where I thought the pacing lagged a bit (though “To Sheila” was a definite highlight), and I thought the encore choices were a bit odd (would rather have seen them end with a barnburner). I also could have done without the vignettes that played between a couple of the more elaborate set changes (let’s just say it involves video of another musician - one I don’t associate with good music - serving as a “carnival barker” type. It was deliberately cheesy, but I thought it was a bit much).

    As far as merch goes: lots of shirt selections, from tour date ones to band tees, vinyl (Gish, Siamese Dream, and Melancholy), and some other odds and ends, like a bag, water bottle, koozie, etc. I grabbed a tour poster (with all the dates. They didn’t have a show-specific one).

    All in all: wow! If you were on the fence about whether or not to catch this tour, I’d say jump on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by imail724 View Post
    Do you remember what time they hit the stage? There's no opener, right?
    Metric opened. They started right at 7PM. They sounded good, but the whole theater-style “chairs on the arena floor” thing really worked against them. Everyone sat.

    That’s actually one of the things about this show that I absolutely did not like, that I forgot to mention in my last post. I definitely could have done without seats on the floor. I was very close to the stage, but would have loved the freedom to move around.

    Metric played from 7-7:45.

    SP hit the stage pretty much right at 8, and played until about 11:15.

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    I'm just going to get this out of the way now.

    During Stairway they apparently take a saint statue around for a little tour and the thing has Corgan's face on it (it's been identified as "Zero" by BC on instagram):



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    Merch booth:




    Aside from my preferring TEITBITE a great deal more than TBITEITB, and what I think are too many covers (No I Am One is weird) I'm actually looking forward to going to see this. That's a hell of a long setlist.

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    Fuck. I'm actually.....upset they're not coming here now?

    Fuck.

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    That setlist is amazing
    I hope I am the one, Frail and bedazzled , An ode to no one , Starla, Obscured, appears in the tour (Wow, they played 30 songs and I want more , Sorry Billy, But you have to admit you had great years, they were amazing years)

    The stairway to heaven cover is really good but the "saint figure" is like wtf

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    BC mentioned on one of his instagram posts that there were a few numbers like Starla they were saving for the two-night shows for the second night. Otherwise the setlist is supposed to be static for the whole tour.

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    Come on September 8th!

    Might be grabbing a few of those shirts. The red heart is a must.

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    How did Billy sound?

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    These latest posts are a good example of “wait and see” before jumping to conclusions. Wish they would’ve had a Milwaukee date, would’ve loved to get some cheap seats off StubHub.

    Never saw them live either so would’ve been totally content with a “greatest hits setlist”.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbie solo View Post
    How did Billy sound?
    ”really, really good” according to @Shadaloo . There’s a link up top too, probably a bunch of vids on the ole YouTube by now.

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    The seating ruins it for me. Especially the fact watching the videos and seeing that no one actually stood up ever. I've been to seating events, but people still stand up.

    I could do without the seats.

    Also, some of the video projections I've seen are quite cringe worthy. Billy's Shakespeare moment. That atrocious Pope Billy statue being carried around by some horror monk looking dudes. The Mark McGrath carnival talker moments. I can do without the theatrics. Find them embarrassing. Many were heavily Billy-centric. Heard he changes costumes several times as well. I dunno, for me, just some decent lighting and some minor visual elements with the band would be better. Also, less cover songs.

    The one thing I'll give them, they actually sound good even if Jack and Jeff are cardboard cutouts placed on stage. But that's not enough to drop the kinda money they're asking for on tickets. The Pumpkins were never about Broadway theatrics, it was just about the music. Plus I have no clue wbat Billy was thinking with Jack on bass. Melissa Auf De Maur or Nicole Fiorentino would have been much better. Someone with presence and energy to fill that other side of the stage cuz Jack and Jeff aren't really that engaging live.

    One professional review said it best, it's like two different bands battling each other. He thought the moments that relied less on theatrics and visuals were the best and most engaging.
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    Quote Originally Posted by neorev View Post
    The seating ruins it for me. Especially the fact watching the videos and seeing that no one actually stood up ever.
    Ummm... I was physically there (dead center about 23 rows back) in the floor seats and pretty much everyone to the left, right, and front of me was standing (there was a dude in the row right in front of me that sat in several five-minute intervals, but he was easily 350+ lbs). I can’t vouch for the rest of the people behind me, but I can assure you that “no one actually stood up ever” isn’t remotely true.
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    damn... i really wanna go to the Atlanta show now... why am i so poor ;_;

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    oh my god

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    Just got back in town and had to post a few comments about the Houston show. First off, the show was absolutely incredible. I was attending with a professional sound engineer and he was blown away by the sound quality and mixing they were doing. Billy's guitar tone sounded like you stepped back into the studio for Siamese Dream. I also never realized how many leads he plays "Billy can shred"! Some of the Leads + feedback/fuzz he was pulling off sounded album quality from their 90's era sound they were famous for. James made a funny comment about how he has been working on his patches to get this songs right live and how they were still working the kinks out. Thirty Three live was so flawless and warm that is about ripped my heart out. If you are even thinking about going to this show... don't miss it. Don't look at the setlist if you can resist ;-)

    Expectations going in were ok, came out with a top 10 show for me.

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    Motherfucker lol. I'm hearing nothing but solid reviews for this tour.

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    I saw them in 2000 and in 2015, Corgan can rip it up. He's always been an underrated guitarist.

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    I saw them on Friday night here in Nashville and I have to say I absolutely loved it. The only thing I will gripe about is the cover songs. I will never understand Billy's need to put those songs in the setlist when he has such a broad discography to choose from. Only time I even sat during the whole show was Stairway to Heaven. I was also hoping that I would be able to tell more that there were 3 guitars, but the only song I felt like I actually heard any real benefit from was the outro on Porcelina. It seemed like a lot of people didn't even know who James was which was so bizarre to me. If I had to pick a fave moment it was either Soma or Try Try Try.

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    thanks to my friend alex, i just added all these beauties to my collection (for free!!!)

    gish (1994 repress)
    siamese dream (original 1993 pressing)
    mellon collie and the infinite sadness (original 1995 pressing in unique case)
    bullet with butterfly wings
    1979

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    its hilarious that people forgot Billy can FUCKING WRECK on the guitar... kids these fuckin' days

    /oldmanrant

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    Quote Originally Posted by dvdglss View Post
    its hilarious that people forgot Billy can FUCKING WRECK on the guitar... kids these fuckin' days

    /oldmanrant
    it's kinda nice to finally see some love for this band, it's been pretty negative lately but it seems the naysayers are being proven wrong, now hoping this lasts longer because it's a shame with such a legacy.

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    I was skeptical of a stadium tour until 10 min into the show... Nostalgia factor was through the roof and most importantly it didn't feel fake or forced. The sound, the eccentric billy, songs like Soma and Drown and seeing James up there with him. It all just came together. I have never had a show make it feel like I was hearing those songs again for the first time. That's hard to pull off

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    Some good full show videos popping up on YouTube at least...


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