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    I find the whole character playing nonsense convoluted and pretentious. I didn't like Siamese Dream or Mellon Collie because of a character. I liked it because of the music. Machina felt like the album where Billy tried to force a character/story into the band and it all fell apart.

    Apparently the band was just playing a dysfunctional band in interviews and playing characters live. So does that mean the whole Billy vs D'arcy feud was all part of the sham? Was Billy shitting on the rest of the band in the credits of the boxset reissues was all part of the game?

    I don't know. It feels disingenuous to me. A bit like retconning when he says SD and MC was always a character. They act like making the music they did was just a character they created and can slip into whenever they want. I don't think that is true. Billy and Jimmy are gonna have to prove it then on this sequel album.

    Also, where is James? It bugs me he wasn't included.

    I also don't care about some artsy farsty rehearsed theater stageplay show. We got the Shiny stageplay experience. Get the band back together in the studio again. That'll be a start. I just wanna hear a band having fun and in tune with one another. I wanna see the band that was able to jam together and go off on crazy tangents. Not a show that needs to be mapped to a click track and timeline.

    Is the sequel album gonna be called Transmutation?
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    Quote Originally Posted by allegate View Post
    Reading the wiki and had a thought: does anyone listen to the Pistachio Medley? I mean other than the one first time?
    It's Pastichio. The amount of people typoing/autocorrecting the title is maddening – ruins the (admittedly a bit cringey) joke! (Sorry if it was just autocorrect in your case, but the point stands.)

    But yeah, I basically listened to it once as a 20 minute ride and again split up into its itty bitty parts. Kind of a fun insight into all the good shit laying around the archives at the time, but full songs are obviously better... except Die, which is fine as it is.

    Anybody examined it on the Aeroplane vinyl? Curious how it's edited. I'm sure it just fades out early or something lame like that.

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    Do you know I've never noticed that? I've always - all the way back to 1996 when I bought the single - read it as Pistachio. Huh.

    It's a 'sensible chuckle' level joke, that's for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seasonsinthesky View Post
    Anybody examined it on the Aeroplane vinyl? Curious how it's edited. I'm sure it just fades out early or something lame like that.
    Fades out after about 75-80 seconds of "Die".

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    I give Pastichio a spin once every few years (and of course, a boot compilation of all the known released or leaked tracks included therein).

    I really, really wonder about the circumstances that brought about 'Rubberman'

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    Well, there's the band

    Glad this has more of a rock sound but it feels a little too controlled.

    Ramona is up on YT music as well

    After one listen of each I think I enjoy Ramona more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadaloo View Post


    Well, there's the band

    Glad this has more of a rock sound but it feels a little too controlled.

    Ramona is up on YT music as well

    After one listen of each I think I enjoy Ramona more.
    Finally, a song I can stand behind. Not necessarily saying it's a good song but as you said, there's the band.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadaloo View Post


    Well, there's the band

    Glad this has more of a rock sound but it feels a little too controlled.

    Ramona is up on YT music as well

    After one listen of each I think I enjoy Ramona more.

    Could do without the female backing vocals. Those cheesy fake string sounds should've been replaced by a guitar lead sound. It's the best track so far, but I'll probably never listen to it again.

    Ramona... just no. More cheesy fake strings.

    I miss when Jimmy really emphasized the groove in a track and played around the beat.

    Hints of what could maybe be decent songs ruined by over sterilized glossy cheese production.

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    Oh Billy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadaloo View Post


    Well, there's the band

    Glad this has more of a rock sound but it feels a little too controlled.

    Ramona is up on YT music as well

    After one listen of each I think I enjoy Ramona more.
    Best song of the batch but I wish the vocal track was not that upfront, it drowns out the band. I do like the female backing vocals and the keyboards, combine these elements with James, Jimmy, and Jeff and it'd make for a much more interesting album, a new direction and not rehashing the old Pumpkins sound. A band has to elvolve, yes, but what we've heard so far is so bland, except for Wyytch. They should had gone in this direction, heavy use of keyboards, female backing vocals, and the whole band. This song kinda sounds like new, growl-less/prog Opeth, which is absolutely not a bad thing!

    Also...how much of a buget does that band have, now that they are with Sumerian? They now have two videos for CYR with full production, plus three animated videos.
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    This is a pretty good interview with Billy via WGN:

    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...21449307867611

    He calls the new animated video “dystopic Scooby Doo” which is actually hilarious.
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    I see people comparing Billy's new songs to New Order.....People really need to stop comparing new Smashing Pumpkins songs to New Order. New Order is a great band. These new Billy songs are utter shit.....Maybe its more like 'Get Ready' era New Order..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helpmeiaminhell View Post
    I see people comparing Billy's new songs to New Order.....People really need to stop comparing new Smashing Pumpkins songs to New Order. New Order is a great band. These new Billy songs are utter shit.....Maybe its more like 'Get Ready' era New Order..
    It sounds exactly like New Order... if New Order sucked

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    Quote Originally Posted by neorev View Post
    It sounds exactly like New Order... if New Order sucked
    This made me laugh hard, and I needed that today, so thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poro765 View Post
    This made me laugh hard, and I needed that today, so thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadaloo View Post
    The video is so cliché (the whole "Western-latin thing"), and the song is no great either, i prefer the other singles, not excited about this album...

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    Anyone here looking to buy the CD boxsets of Gish, Siamese Dream, Pisces Iscariot, Mellon Collie, Aeroplane Flies High, and Adore? Looking to sell them. I figured I'd ask here first before going through annoying eBay. I live in the US. I'd be willing to do a good deal for someone who wants all of them. Cheers.

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    The Museum of Pop Culture in Seattle is having an online benefit honoring Alice in Chains and Billy will be performing AIC song(s) at it:


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    There's a new Kerrang! interview, as well.

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    There's also a new Rolling Stone interview.

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    I was admittedly blown away by the last tour (despite mostly disliking SAOSB V1). I went into the tour expecting dogshit, and walked away having my mind blown by walls of guitars.

    That said, nothing on this album (save maybe for "Wyttch") has even remotely grabbed me... and I HATE being a curmudgeon. I really wanted to love this album, but's it's soooo boring thus far. The vocals (as is tradition since Zeitgeist) are waaaay too high in the mix. Billy still seems hell-bent on rhyming real words that already fucking rhyme like "here" and "fear" with "hee-ah" "fee-ah," and "nee-ah." Ugggggggggh. Stop it. You're one of the best guitarists on Earth when you feel like it. Please... feel like it.

    The best thing about SP from their heyday was that they were anything but predictable/boring. But goddamn... snoooooooooooze.

    All I want is to love SP again. I hate sounding like a cliche disenchanted SP fan... but yeah: I'm hee-ah.
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    I agree. I would love to have a electronic, new wave inspired Pumpkins album! This Cyr shit ain't it tho... Billy's songwriting feels lazy and uninspired lately.

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    God, it gets worse. More terrible oooh oooh female backing vocals. More sterile, lifeless production. I can't believe there is another 10 tracks of this bullshit. Billy needs someone who knows how to program beats. I do find it hysterical how Billy can feature James, Jimmy, and Jeff in videos for these new songs when this album has is really Billy and a faceless back up female vocalist. This album is more hers than Jimmy, Jeff, or James.

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    I just realized the last Pumpkins album did not even crack the top 50 on the Billboard 200. Wow. Thats horrifying. No wonder Billy boy is resorting to doing a "sequel" to his most popular album. At this point he is crawling on the floor picking up the crumbs of whats left of his "legacy"

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    Quote Originally Posted by neorev View Post
    I can't believe there is another 10 tracks of this bullshit.
    This means at least 5 more times of you and everyone else coming here to bitch about it. Maybe take it a rest for a while and pretend that Billy retired for good in 2000. Life will get easier.

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    If he honestly cared about the Pumpkins legacy, he would have released Cyr under his own name. Billy seems hellbent on destroying his creation. Should have left it for dead after Machina and all of these new "Pumpkins" records could have gone under the Zwan banner.

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    When you've got SD and MCIS under your belt, you can put out all the underwhelming albums you like. SP's legacy is fine.

    I'll check these out when I get in, but at this point I'm apathetic about this album. I do think a few of the tracks are good, but this has been mostly meh to me thus far.

    Well, you gotta give him this. The unpredictability factor's still in play: nobody saw this direction coming, whatever it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fillow View Post
    This means at least 5 more times of you and everyone else coming here to bitch about it.
    You are correct. You are welcome. Enjoy.

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