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    I don't think these dates have anything to do with Machina. It seems like Billy is still in the early stages of Machina.

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    Yeah, it's too evenly structured. Every single date is 3 weeks apart on the nose, that's a pretty good indicator of a planned hype schedule and Billy's just shot a music video.

    Billy seems to be tackling Machina in bits and pieces whenever he's not actively busy on his current stuff

    I'd love to be wrong but...

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    Looks like they've been signed to Sumerian Records and the first single drops this Friday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonic_discord View Post
    Looks like they've been signed to Sumerian Records and the first single drops this Friday.

    https://www.instagram.com/p/CESWf7gD...=1b63mpi9ueec3

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    Yes, you use INSTAGRAM and /INSTAGRAM in brackets and the first set of letters and numbers between /p/ and /?igshid in the Insta link, which in this case is "CESWf7gDiaz"

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    Not thrilled by this clip.
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    Sounds like more of the same. Oh well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rampface View Post
    Sounds like more of the same. Oh well.
    It's a 10-second clip, hardly enough to judge from. Let's at least wait until the whole song comes out on Friday to write it off.

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    True but I've been listening to the Smashing Pumpkins since '95 so I already know what to expect just from a 10 second clip lol

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    That sounds uncomfortably like something off Monuments to My Misery

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    Reminds me of that Henry Rollins bit about messing a song up and how he's "not a woah hey come on kind of guy" for some reason.

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    To go from making some of the edgiest, raw as hell, groundbreaking tones to this bland, artificial, overproduced, and overprocessed crap is, honestly, kind of disappointing. It may be just 10 seconds, but it's a terrible 10 seconds. Trust me, if there's anyone who wants Billy to make me eat my own words and prove me wrong, it's me. But I have little hope.

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    They updated their website. Did anyone unscramble the riddle thing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kodiak33 View Post
    They updated their website. Did anyone unscramble the riddle thing?
    Cyr
    The colour of love part?

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    Once you do, you get an email for a 20% off from the store

    With another lyric puzzle:

    “SAY, DIRE WARNING
    STARE DOWN YOUR _MASTERS_
    WITH THE PROMISE OF
    ONE AND WHAT YOU ARE
    WE'RE ON THE ______”

    The Sumerian Records IG post had "Stare Down Your Masters" as a tag, so that's the first bit.

    This is neat.

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    These new songs suck so much lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by kleiner View Post
    These new songs suck so much lol
    Cyr is the better song between the two, but yeah... they're just okay. Every single song on Oceania is better than both of these. Here's hoping the singles are the more vanilla tunes and there are some bangers somewhere else in that 20-song tracklisting.

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    These two songs are shit. Who wouldn't have guessed though.
    I'm wondering what Iha and Chamberlain are doing.
    With Shiny 1 Billy had excuse that the songs were done before they came into play, but zero excuse here.

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    These are fucking awful and Billy can continue to fuck right off. I understand making music that you want to make and not what your fans want, but who exactly could he possibly think this would appeal to that are in his current, actual fanbase? And the thing that really sticks out to me is that you've got this absolute monster of a drummer behind the kit for you, yet we're making ALOT of dance songs with programmed drum tracks? I understand there have always been some tracks like that (including his biggest hit in 1979), but this has been the focus since the reunion I feel like. No one wants that.

    These songs can die in a fire.

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    Songs are fine to me. I mean this album is literally called Shiny Vol.2, why should anyone expect a drastic change?
    I've accepted long time ago that old aggressive music ain't coming back and everyone should too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fillow View Post
    Songs are fine to me. I mean this album is literally called Shiny Vol.2, why should anyone expect a drastic change?
    I've accepted long time ago that old aggressive music ain't coming back and everyone should too.
    Don't know, maybe them playing Porcelina and adding Machina songs & Zeitgeist tunes like GLOW, SuperChrist to the setlist made me hope for something better than this.
    I feel like, even if SP was just Billy Corgan and boys from the beginning, he at least tried to make these records sound like an actual band recorded it, not just him.
    Now he's not even trying.

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    Awful.

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    Production is WAY too clean, glossy and lifeless for a band of this stature ... but I am actually am digging The Colour of Love. Really liking the arrangements, even if again—it could easily be any other band.

    I thought Cyr was the worst of the two.

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    Billy is doing all he can to ruin the band’s legacy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rampface View Post
    Billy is doing all he can to ruin the band’s legacy.
    That ship sailed about 5 albums ago.

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    Cyr's your throwaway technopop single and I'm not impressed by it.

    Color of Love's way better. Kinda feels like a nod to 80's Cure.

    I'm remembering back on the spnexus site, when he was talking about Day For Night, he kind of implied he wanted that to be an 80's goth/new wave album. I guess we're here.

    Honestly, their style changed on almost every album and I'd be more surprised if we ever get anything remotely similar to SD or MCIS ever again.

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    I’m all for artist’s trying new things and exploring but there’s nothing recognizable about the “Pumpkins” in either of these tracks. It’s almost as if Billy doesn’t want to be in the Smashing Pumpkins anymore but is sticking with the brand because he knows the money is there.

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    BBZ* stans are feeling left out right now.

    Spoiler: (Bring Back Zwan)

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    I'm quite enjoying these new songs. Love the synthwork. Production sounds great. I don't think they will ever sound like they did in the 90's and that's fine with me.

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    No one is wanting them to sound like MCIS or SD or Adore, but hell, Oceania was a more than fine post-breakup album, I would actually rank Oceania in my top 3 SP (Zeitgeist had its moments too). This sounds uninspired and bland, I'm sorry. Color of Love is just ok, but again, doesn't have a hook, it's not catchy...it's just...generic?
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    Don't get me wrong, he got the Gish guitar back and I wanna know what he did with it lol

    But I feel like I've been through this already in 1998. And these don't feel so much like weird unfamiliar territory after the likes of TheFutureEmbrace and Monuments.

    20 tracks, I would hope there are some rockers in there.

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