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    What values does NIN stand for?

    Here's a question I was thinking a lot about, and I'm curious what you think. What value(s) do you think NIN stands for, if you had to sum it all up? I think it's overcoming adversity. "The way out it through" gets to that and sums up a lot of the lyrical content.

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    Being sad, then questioning if you're still relevant.

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    Working really fucking hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leviathant View Post
    Working really fucking hard.
    But only if you avoid playing "Doom"...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leviathant View Post
    Working really fucking hard.
    And having half the stuff you worked so hard on never seeing the light of day

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    Can't put it any better than this. From a Spiral webchat in 2006:

    Mr_selfdestruct9: This Question is for Aaron, What were the challenges of switching from a Punk rock style band, to a different setting that is Nine Inch Nails?

    aaron_north: None. I always kinda thought Nine Inch Nails was punk anyway. Nine Inch Nails is certainly a lot more "punk rock" ethically and stylistically than all of these Fallout Boy, Good Charlotte or whatever poser dipshit bands are on mtv all day waving the punk rock flag anyway. These types of bands have bastardized a term that meant something to an older generation, and it's confused younger kids. Growing up, punk to me meant originality and playing by your own rules. That's what Nine Inch Nails is all about.
    Emphasis mine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WorzelG View Post
    And having half the stuff you worked so hard on never seeing the light of day
    If I can play the "Kids these days" card, I might play the one that says "Not everything you do really needs to see the light of day." I've definitely taken the hard-work page from the NIN playbook to an extent... I try to do a lot of cool things. Some of them get finished, a lot don't. But a lot more cool things happen then if I'm choosy about what I'm working on. Never stop moving!

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    (I've been away from the board for a bit, but this thread caught my eye)

    Can't agree with @Leviathant and @botley enough.

    Furthermore, I'd like to expand upon the thought of 'overcoming adversity' with this: overcoming adversity and past horrors with a new groove. These horrors could be loss, irrelevance, melancholy, depression, heartbreak, betrayal, anything from the maudlin to the truly dire. And by new groove, I don't mean something glib or corny, I really don't. I mean a new outlook, perspective, observation, revelation, or any form of empowerment, emotional or otherwise. I also think the term fits because of the actual style and context of the music of Nine Inch Nails. This is why NIN has 'aged' with me, so to speak, from high school to college and now years beyond, because the way these trials and successes or failures are expressed are generally timeless for each cultural decade that has passed so far, in my opinion. Strangely, I used a near-identical way to describe Deerhunter's new video on the Yube, and I'm so grateful to Trent for introducing me to another band that stands for similar ...values (including fringe, gender-bending aesthetics).

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    "In Two" could be a thesis critique of this whole mentality.

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    Hahaha. A Light Of Day reference.

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    i don't think NIN stands for any values. there are themes, but i don't think the music exists to convey themes or feelings or even to be innovative. it does those things, but it's not what it's for.

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    Well, it used to stand for something, now it's on its hands and knees

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    Quote Originally Posted by OSLIN View Post
    9? nine
    9.5 ninepointfive

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    9.5 ninepointfive
    More like 2.0

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    I sometimes thought that some of Nine Inch Nails was also about finding truth, purpose, and meaning in life, sort of in a Richard Dawkins way, especially in regards to organized religion, just in the form of rock music, without any actual conspicuous point of view on what truth and meaning really are, or position of belief or disbelief in something, with the exception of certain political aspects of his songs. I think Nine Inch Nails is also big on creating and finding yourself, while knowing how to stand alone and figuring things out on your own while accepting reality no matter how harsh it might be. You can only go so far if you keep kidding yourself. That has occurred to me several times over the years.
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    I think you could say that NIN stands for the struggle to understand the human condition and for being truthful and honest about what can lurk in our hearts and minds, even if those things can sometimes be totally ugly. I tend to think of NIN as pretty existentialist music, which the world could probably use more of, IMO. I think it would also not be off the mark to say that in terms of the music industry, NIN has always stood for blazing trails and pushing the envelope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tony.parente View Post
    Being sad, then questioning if you're still relevant.
    Along with life as you know it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OSLIN View Post
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    It's either that, or 22.86.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericy210 View Post
    Here's a question I was thinking a lot about, and I'm curious what you think. What value(s) do you think NIN stands for, if you had to sum it all up? I think it's overcoming adversity. "The way out it through" gets to that and sums up a lot of the lyrical content.
    I can't believe that I forgot to say this right away, but I also got that from Everything and Various Methods Of Escape.

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    I saw a youtube comment that tidily sums this up: "Trent's not so angry anymore he just wants everybody to bang" re: All Time Low. Well-said.

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