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    Quote Originally Posted by theimage13 View Post
    I think I just saw a headline that they declined DACA.

    edit: yup

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...a6d_story.html
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/supreme...a-in-november/

    Different DACA case, SCOTUS heard oral arguments in November, decision expected today.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/supreme...poll-cbs-news/


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    Was anyone talking about NASCAR, Bubba Wallace and the noose?

    I just watched the CNN bit from Lemon's show with Bubba and I am so confused, so supposedly this was a garage door pull that was there since 2019 or so the FBI had concluded.

    Is this another Jussie Smollett or was Bubba being trolled? i have no idea what's going on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thelastdisciple View Post
    Was anyone talking about NASCAR, Bubba Wallace and the noose?

    I just watched the CNN bit from Lemon's show with Bubba and I am so confused, so supposedly this was a garage door pull that was there since 2019 or so the FBI had concluded.

    Is this another Jussie Smollett or was Bubba being trolled? i have no idea what's going on.
    It was not a hoax or a hate crime, because it wasn’t a noose; it was just a pull on a door that had been that way since last year, nobody assigned him that specific garage, the pull wasn’t put there after he was there. It was all just a misunderstanding during a very sensitive time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by allegro View Post
    It was not a hoax or a hate crime, because it wasn’t a noose; it was just a pull on a door that had been that way since last year, nobody assigned him that specific garage, the pull wasn’t put there after he was there. It was all just a misunderstanding during a very sensitive time.
    Yet regardless of what it actually was Bubba still seems to stand firm in his belief of it to be a noose and so does as he also said the FBI and his NASCAR peers. :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by thelastdisciple View Post
    Yet regardless of what it actually was Bubba still seems to stand firm in his belief of it to be a noose and so does as he also said the FBI and his NASCAR peers. :/
    Weird. There are cameras EVERYWHERE around there, so all he has to do is get the camera footage. It’d be super easy to determine if that was there, already; and, if not, who put it there. I guess that place, everywhere, is under a crazy amount of constant surveillance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by allegro View Post
    Weird. There are cameras EVERYWHERE around there, so all he has to do is get the camera footage. It’d be super easy to determine if that was there, already; and, if not, who put it there. I guess that place, everywhere, is under a crazy amount of constant surveillance.
    Thoughts?


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    Quote Originally Posted by thelastdisciple View Post
    Thoughts?
    That is not a noose.

    I am pretty good at nautical knots. I tie lots of them. Quickly.

    This is a noose:

    https://www.animatedknots.com/noose-knot

    That knot in Bubba’s locker?

    That’s a hangman’s knot / noose.

    https://www.101knots.com/hangmans-knot-noose.html

    See Uni Knot:

    https://www.animatedknots.com/uni-knot

    As someone who ties lots of knots, has them memorized, has APPS for knots, I’m with those who question why anyone would use any noose knot as a pull on a garage, because any noose knot is self-tightening; eventually, the loose end will disappear. This was either some kind of “joke” or it was aimed to be eventually sent as a message by luck of the draw, because Bubba got assigned that Number 4 garage by standings. He was bound to get it, eventually.

    Not sure security footage goes back far enough to show who put it there, or if it’s erased. But the FBI would still have to show motive for a hate crime. If it was there last year, and the garage space is assigned strictly by standings, then it’s pretty impossible to show motive or link it to a hate crime.

    Bottom line, though, is that EVERY driver got behind Bubba out there on that track behind his car to show support. That was really something.
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    It must be a misconception or a semantics thing, as anytime i thought of a "noose" it was definitely the hangman's one that immediately came to mind. Since it literally has "hang man..." in the name and was always used for public executions. Burned in my brain as a visual representation of hangings or lynchings, clearly I've watched way too many Westerns.

    So to say it's not a noose in comparison to your first link, that's absolutely not what i was thinking of. Certainly confused the hell out of me haha

    I know knot of what i speak.

    You're right though about the main takeaway, all the drivers supporting him. That's what matters most.

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    I agree with above sentiments, but am curious why I haven’t seen the last team to have garage #4 say, “Yeah, we got it like that, too.” I know it’s been stated that it’s been like that for almost a year, but it feels weird to me, to not have a human face on it, if that makes sense.

    Maybe I just missed it?

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    a protester in Seattle was hit and killed by a car yesterday

    https://twitter.com/i/events/1279691093521489920

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    Quote Originally Posted by NotoriousTIMP View Post
    a protester in Seattle was hit and killed by a car yesterday

    https://twitter.com/i/events/1279691093521489920
    I saw them get hit via a video that was tweeted, OMG it was horrible, Horrible. The SOUND was horrible. And horrible evil people were commenting that it was their fault for being on an interstate, except it was CLOSED. Wtf. They were LAUNCHED into the air, it was obviously deliberate. No punishment is enough. I can’t get the video out of my mind. My thoughts and prayers are with Summer’s family, as well as Diaz’s for a full recovery.

    I do hope that protesters will stay off the interstates / freeways / expressways; they are far too dangerous.
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    Damn....Protesters are killing civilians now?

    https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/atl...H3UUGXQCKDPBA/

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    Quote Originally Posted by mfte View Post
    Damn....Protesters are killing civilians now?

    https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/atl...H3UUGXQCKDPBA/
    This is awful. A lot of this shit is just so random, idiotic and out-of-control, the message is getting lost. The focus has turned to “anarchy” and most people don’t want anarchy, so it will be a failure and will spark more hatred from the authoritarians on the right.

    These children dying is just bullshit.

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    In, hmmm, how do I put this: more petty news?

    How about this whole James Charles/Jefree Star/Tati Westbrook/Shane Dawson/Will Smith jumblefuck?

    I didn't want to say LIGHTER news, because one of YouTube's all time most popular content creators was found to have pretended to masturbate at a picture of a then 11 year old Willow Smith, and Will Smith and the rest of the family aren't taking it lightly.

    But the accusations and side changing and just, general fucking toxicity of everyone involved, aside from the Smith family, is just STUNNING. For the record, the people outing Dawson all seem to have been cancelled, and uncancelled, themselves, at various points in time.

    You need a good solid two hours of YouTube commentary channel viewing to sort all this shit out. It's like a reality show.

    At least it's less disturbing than donald trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by allegro View Post
    This is awful. A lot of this shit is just so random, idiotic and out-of-control, the message is getting lost. The focus has turned to “anarchy” and most people don’t want anarchy, so it will be a failure and will spark more hatred from the authoritarians on the right.

    These children dying is just bullshit.
    it's awful that a girl was killed. as much unity that has been happening, gang violence hasn't ceased. even here in Jersey City, where there has been multiple peaceful protests, it's been a (not as bad as Chicago) violent summer (media hasn't been honest about it) and there was a phony photo opp a few months ago of the various gang leaders of the different projects here coming together to vow peace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by allegro View Post
    This is awful. A lot of this shit is just so random, idiotic and out-of-control, the message is getting lost. The focus has turned to “anarchy” and most people don’t want anarchy, so it will be a failure and will spark more hatred from the authoritarians on the right.

    These children dying is just bullshit.
    you're absolutely right, and the current administration is going to use all this chaos to paint the left as unbridled, hate fueled, violent communist revolutionaries who want to kill all the white people.
    They're already gearing up for it, it seems, and it might just work.

    This is exactly why I'm entertaining myself with the aforementioned YouTube gossip "news" today, after listening to MSNBC for four hours while driving the day before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elevenism View Post
    How about this whole James Charles/Jefree Star/Tati Westbrook/Shane Dawson/Will Smith jumblefuck?

    I didn't want to say LIGHTER news, because one of YouTube's all time most popular content creators was found to have pretended to masturbate at a picture of a then 11 year old Willow Smith, and Will Smith and the rest of the family aren't taking it lightly.
    Okay, I had to Google this. Other than the Smiths, I have NO fucking idea who ANY of these people are. Or were. And I didn’t or don’t care enough to find out, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by elevenism View Post
    to paint the left
    Except it’s not clear who “the left” is ... and that it’s not the Democrats (who are really more “left of center”).

    Anarchy is REEEEAAAAALLLY far left. BLM is, evidently, beginning to follow the path of the (Socialist) Black Panthers, but without clear structure and leaders, it’s just chaos and anarchy. And, of course, none of it has anything to do with the DNC, despite what QAnon is spreading around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by versusreality View Post
    it's awful that a girl was killed. as much unity that has been happening, gang violence hasn't ceased. even here in Jersey City, where there has been multiple peaceful protests, it's been a (not as bad as Chicago) violent summer (media hasn't been honest about it) and there was a phony photo opp a few months ago of the various gang leaders of the different projects here coming together to vow peace.
    another minor dead
    https://www.nj.com/hudson/2020/07/17...ities-say.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by allegro View Post
    Except it’s not clear who “the left” is ... and that it’s not the Democrats (who are really more “left of center”).

    Anarchy is REEEEAAAAALLLY far left. BLM is, evidently, beginning to follow the path of the (Socialist) Black Panthers, but without clear structure and leaders, it’s just chaos and anarchy. And, of course, none of it has anything to do with the DNC, despite what QAnon is spreading around.

    I hear you.

    But, I'm afraid it doesn't matter, because trump's RNC is going to paint it as an Us and Them duality, and our Dear Leader will become the law and order candidate who will save swing voters from violence In the Streets, threatening Our great Country.

    All in all, we're a nation of rebellious fucks, and this is a double edged sword.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elevenism View Post
    I hear you.

    But, I'm afraid it doesn't matter, because trump's RNC is going to paint it as an Us and Them duality
    Oh honey it most definitely is motherfucking us vs them shit, this is all out fucking WAR, now. Even the most pacifist Democrats I know full out HATE Republicans now. Nobody gives a single fuck what the Republicans think. They sold their souls.

    When the GOP is evil enough to give millions in Covid loans to Jared Kushner, Elaine Chao, Kanye West, Ivanka Trump, Chick Fil A, etc. but won’t extend assistance to nursing homes, SNAP benefits, the elderly, or the unemployed (because “they might not want to go back to work”), and said kids should return to school in the hottest Covid state in the nation, that gauntlet was thrown.
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    @allegro , Shane Dawson is one of the most well known, revered, prolific, oldest, richest YouTubers of all time. He's been doing it since '08.

    I always thought he was just this sweet guy, but I somehow missed all THIS shit.

    A feud in the YouTube makeup/beauty community led people to start compiling old clips, and, yeah, it's fucking NUTS.

    Get you a little taste of it. Remember that this guy is a multimillionaire who is only finally being hung out to dry because Willow Smith was involved in the insanity.

    Now, it's in the mainstream news.

    It's a fascinating and disturbing rabbit hole

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    So how do you guys feel about this "cancel culture letter," from Harper's ?

    I honestly sort of agreed with it.

    I get it that problematic people cosigned it, but so did some people I REALLY respect, like Noam Chomsky.

    And I certainly didn't take issue with what the letter SAID: I mean, to me, it's saying "let's just SORT of remember to not have an Orwellian Nightmare, here, guys? Like, please, and thank you?"

    Everything is starting to fucking frighten me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by elevenism View Post
    @allegro , Shane Dawson is one of the most well known, revered, prolific, oldest, richest YouTubers of all time. He's been doing it since '08.
    I guess I just don't care -- no, I know I just don't care about YouTube shit like this. It's just shit, it's spawned nothing but shit. I use YouTube for stuff like how to change the water pump on my washing machine, or how to make a landscaping path in my yard made of gravel, or how to know if there's a disease on my hydrangeas. NOT these fucking asshole attention whores, whom I think need to be launched into outer space. I hate them all.

    Really, just jettison fucking everything except music videos by actual artists and stuff like this (yes, I actually use stuff like this all the time, I actually replaced a water pump on my old washer):

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    Same. I used several videos to take my washer all the way apart - like even the transmission because it decided to start leaking halfway through the maintenance - and it still works all these months later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by allegro View Post
    I guess I just don't care -- no, I know I just don't care about YouTube shit like this. It's just shit, it's spawned nothing but shit. I use YouTube for stuff like how to change the water pump on my washing machine, or how to make a landscaping path in my yard made of gravel, or how to know if there's a disease on my hydrangeas. NOT these fucking asshole attention whores, whom I think need to be launched into outer space. I hate them all.

    Really, just jettison fucking everything except music videos by actual artists and stuff like this (yes, I actually use stuff like this all the time, I actually replaced a water pump on my old washer):

    oh, don't get me wrong.
    I DO NOT watch these people's videos. Why would I be watching make-up tutorials? I'm aware of some of these people, though, from the early days of the platform.

    I watch a lot of documentaries and such on YouTube, and music videos, and, more pertinent to this situation, the news.
    I saw this on the actual news.

    And, so, I dug a bit deeper, and, yeah: it's reasonably entertaining tabloid level shit, to find out about it, which created a nice break from the actual news.

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    Tucker Carlson's top writer resigns after secretly posting racist and sexist remarks in an online forum.


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    I am very concerned if Tucker runs for president in 2024. I shouldn't be...but I am.

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    Quote Originally Posted by versusreality View Post
    I am very concerned if Tucker runs for president in 2024. I shouldn't be...but I am.
    holy god. PLEASE don't say shit like that.

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