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    Quote Originally Posted by Exocet View Post
    you don't know what to think about this one...jesus
    Going back to this gem here: WTF? I know it's hard to imagine sometimes with the court of public opinion but there's still the rule of law that says innocent until proven guilty. Now that he's turned himself in we have a clear indication of what to believe.

    Also, isn't it backwards in the UK? That you have to prove your innocence?

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    Quote Originally Posted by allegate View Post
    Now that he's turned himself in we have a clear indication of what to believe.
    No, we don't. He was indicted by a grand jury based on evidence that had already been leaked by folks in the police department so opinions were already in place. Either he turned himself in or he had to surrender. He decided to surrender. That's not admitting guilt. Jussie is sticking to his story, the police are talking about what they've found and are giving their opinions, and this is likely headed to court to determine what the likely truth of it all is unless one side breaks.

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    Smollett turned himself in to avoid the hassle of being arrested. But, he was booked, a mug shot was taken, he was in jail for several hours until bond was set, and he was out this afternoon on bond and back to work on the set of “Empire.”

    It IS going to Court. He’s been charged with a felony.

    He’s innocent until proven guilty.

    But the State’s Attorney’s Office assembled the grand jury that decided to indict him based on facts and testimony before the grand jury, not opinions. It’s important that we remember that.

    His case isn’t looking good right now.

    Inside Jussie Smollett's alleged plot: Chicago police say they were suspicious from the start

    The State’s Attorney’s office already has means, motive and opportunity; a deposited check, oral testimony, video footage, text messages, all kinds of bad shit.

    The Judge was NOT pleased.

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    Quote Originally Posted by allegate View Post

    Also, isn't it backwards in the UK? That you have to prove your innocence?

    Nope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ltrandazzo View Post
    No, we don't. He was indicted by a grand jury based on evidence that had already been leaked by folks in the police department so opinions were already in place. Either he turned himself in or he had to surrender. He decided to surrender. That's not admitting guilt. Jussie is sticking to his story, the police are talking about what they've found and are giving their opinions, and this is likely headed to court to determine what the likely truth of it all is unless one side breaks.
    Really? The article I saw earlier today said he admitted to it because of his pay and screen time. Maybe it was conjecture on their part then?
    Quote Originally Posted by theimage13 View Post
    Nope.
    Huh. I seem to have misremembered the plot of Denial!
    in the UK, the burden of proof in a libel case lies with the accused

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