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[sonic_discord]

I noticed this a while ago and forgot to mention it (the Oscar win tonight reminded me), but on the Awards page, both awards for The Social Network should say 2011, not 2010. The film (and score) was released in 2010, but the actual ceremonies for the Golden Globes and the Academy Awards were both in 2011 (January 16 and February 27, respectively).

[piggy]

I fixed those. Thanks!

[Erneuert]

As fake as it is, the cover artwork for that Reptile cassingle looks really nice. @piggy where should these fake things (including Closure) be added to ninwiki?

[Leviathant]

As fake as it is, the cover artwork for that Reptile cassingle looks really nice. @piggy where should these fake things (including Closure) be added to ninwiki?

Given that Trimark was taking pre-orders for an item with a catalog number and a UPC, it can't hurt to include that information in the wiki. There is no evidence that such a laserdisc was ever produced.

[TheBang]

Maybe there can be a catch-all Hoax index page for ninwiki? Smaller-scale stuff can get a listing and brief mention, and bigger hoaxes (like Strobelight) can link to the article.

Here are some thoughts for listings on such a Hoax index page:

Hard Copy report
Trent Reznor's personal homepage (Reznor's Edge/blackrose) and Impossible Pain
https://www.nin.wiki/Songs_misattributed_to_NIN
https://www.nin.wiki/Mysterious_Videos
Strobelight
Dive and Slam
Blue Sunday
With Teeth Tentative Sequence fake upload
thninchnails releases
Closure laserdisc and Reptile cassette

[piggy]

Sounds like a good idea to me. Should it also have the other stuff associated with thninchnails, like the fake live Saigon 1995 recording and The Manhattan Project vinyl?

[piggy]

Attention @Malechite

Looks like the wiki has been hacked.

[TheBang]

Attention@Malechite

Looks like the wiki has been hacked.

Fortunately, it looks like it's probably just a misconfiguration on the webhost which is making it serve the wrong site.

[piggy]

Oh, ok. Didn't even think of that. I mean, changing it to someone's interior design business would be a weird hack. LOL.

[sheepdean]

I just wanted to link someone to the Ghosts Locusts page, and now I have a whole new lounge set

[Malechite]

Definitely just a weird DNS problem... I'm working with the host right now to try and get it resolved. Hopefully it won't be too long.

[Malechite]

Everything is back up now. Looks like the host migrated servers, and updated DNS for ninwiki.com but not nin.wiki

[laststepdown]

If we're listing the reptile single then we definitely need to list the heresy single.

[piggy]

OK, I've put up the hoaxes and jokes page:
https://www.nin.wiki/Hoaxes_and_jokes

[explodey]

Does the Sons of Pale Horse tee also belong there? As far as I'm aware, it's never been available.

[laststepdown]

Does the Sons of Pale Horse tee also belong there? As far as I'm aware, it's never been available.

No, there's at least one that exists. Someone on this board has it, it was sent to them from Trent.

[gorast]

No, there's at least one that exists. Someone on this board has it, it was sent to them from Trent.

That still makes it essentially a hoax/joke, IMO, because it was never actually available to anyone else.

[spahn]

No, there's at least one that exists. Someone on this board has it, it was sent to them from Trent.

I have it and no, trent didn't send it to me.

[laststepdown]

I have it and no, trent didn't send it to me.

I forgot who was sent it to you I guess I just assumed I'm sorry

[ekrekel]

I have it and no, trent didn't send it to me.

ooooh, do tell

[seasonsinthesky]

OK, I've put up the hoaxes and jokes page:
https://www.nin.wiki/Hoaxes_and_jokes

This is great – but the wiki really, really needs to work on sourcing properly. A simple link to the WT Tentative debunk thread would suffice, etc. Obviously the ones with screenshots from the NIN store etc. don't require it (but a link is nice if the page is still live).

[piggy]

Alright, that's fixed. I guess somehow citing slipped my mind while putting together that page, but I've tried my best to cite the vast majority of what I add to the wiki.

[Erneuert]

@piggy, it’s been a while since I’ve done any extensive ninwiki edits (the last major ones were creating the individual song pages for The Vietnam War, Before The Flood and possibly Mid-90s). Is there anything recently added that you need assistance with? Any pages that need individual song page chronology added? Or missing BPMs?

Also, I haven’t really edited it since the revamp of the entire site. Is it reasonably user-friendly to edit like the old version?

[piggy]

@piggy, it’s been a while since I’ve done any extensive ninwiki edits (the last major ones were creating the individual song pages for The Vietnam War, Before The Flood and possibly Mid-90s). Is there anything recently added that you need assistance with? Any pages that need individual song page chronology added? Or missing BPMs?

Also, I haven’t really edited it since the revamp of the entire site. Is it reasonably user-friendly to edit like the old version?

I can't really think of much that needs help at the moment... The editing is still easy to do, although Malechite hasn't yet re-implemented the full-page edit mode.

[Erneuert]

I can't really think of much that needs help at the moment... The editing is still easy to do, although Malechite hasn't yet re-implemented the full-page edit mode.

Just noticed on the Halo 4 page that the releases section doesn’t mention the rare cassingle “cigarette box” release that I… think only came in the UK black artwork form? Or possibly the red one as well.

[piggy]

Just noticed on the Halo 4 page that the releases section doesn’t mention the rare cassingle “cigarette box” release that I… think only came in the UK black artwork form? Or possibly the red one as well.

Good catch. Added that bit, as well as the thing you mentioned elsewhere about the 2018 "Fragile teaser" sets.

[Malechite]

The editing is still easy to do, although Malechite hasn't yet re-implemented the full-page edit mode.

Thanks for the reminder! It's on my list. I definitely had to make some compromises when I decided to have just one responsive skin based on Wikimedia's mobile template instead of having to modify and maintain 2 separate skins like Wikipedia does.

Functionality I need to add back in:
- A "Full Page" edit button as opposed to just sections (workaround is removing &section= URL param after clicking edit)
- Category information needs to be added back to the bottom of pages
- Styles are missing from the File Upload page - I should at least make the "Upload" button look like a button
- Wiki Categories need to be re-linked from the main menu
- Tours need to be re-linked from the main menu
- Improve the slide out main menu on desktop
- Add 6 new "text label with background image" tiles on the main page that link to wiki areas
(These should basically mirror the items at the top of the main menu. This replaces the functionality of the missing "points of interest" from the old main page)
- Create new sub-templates to replace the old grey HTML tables on the discography page and tour pages
- ...and so much more

Are there any other missing pieces of functionality that you can think of at the moment?

[FULLMETAL]

Not sure if this minutiae is wiki worthy, but it would be sweet for reference purposes to know the audio specs for Digital releases (24/48, embedded lyrics, etc.) from NIN.com versus the other Hi-Def audio storefronts.

[jmtd]

I've finally done my annual ninwiki dump/backup to archive.org for 2021 (previous years: 2020, 2018, 2017)

This is the first dump since the theme change!

[Jon]

Mank (Standard) BPM

01. Welcome to Victorville = 57 bpm
02. Trapped! = 78 bpm
03. All This Time = 174 bpm
04. Enter Menace = 81 bpm
05. First Dictation = 127 bpm
06. A Fool's Paradise = 140 bpm
07. Once More Unto the Breach = 140 bpm
08. About Something = 58 bpm
09. Glendale Station = 140 bpm
10. What's at Stake? = 79 bpm
11. Every Thing You Do = 148 bpm
12. Cowboys and Indians = 109 bpm
13. Presumed Lost = 114 bpm
14. (If Only You Could) Save Me = 91 bpm
15. Means of Escape = 73 bpm
16. All This Time (A White Parasol) = 74 bpm
17. M.G.M. = 110 bpm
18. A Respectable Bribe = 118 bpm
19. I, Governor of California = 95 bpm
20. A Leaden Silence = 72 bpm
21. San Simeon Waltz = 120 bpm
22. Time Running Out = 79 bpm
23. Mank-heim = 143 bpm
24. Lend Me a Buck? = 130 bpm
25. You Wanted to See Me? = 140 bpm
26. In Your Arms Again = 152 bpm
27. The Dark Night of the Soul = 128 bpm
28. Clouds Gather = 0 bpm (?)
29. Way Back When = 200 bpm
30. An Idea Takes Hold = 61 bpm
31. Marion's Exit = 126 bpm
32. Absolution = 86 bpm
33. Scenes from Election Night = 109 bpm
34. Election Night-mare = 65 bpm
35. All This Time (Dance Interrupted) = 143 bpm
36. All This Time (Victorious) = 176 bpm
37. I'm Eve = 88 bpm
38. A Rare Bird = 73 bpm
39. Look at What We Did = 86 bpm
40. Menace Returns = 71 bpm
41. Forgive Me = 143 bpm
42. Final Regards = 88 bpm
43. Where Else Would I Be? = 134 bpm
44. The Organ Grinder = 140 bpm
45. All This Time (Not No More) = 174 bpm
46. Costume Party = 114 bpm
47. Dulcinea = 71 bpm
48. Shoot-out at the OK Corral = 78 bpm
49. The Organ Grinder's Monkey = 140 bpm
50. An Act of Purging Violence = 153 bpm
51. All This Time (Happily Ever After) = 129 bpm
52. A Rare Bird (Reprise) = 133 bpm