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[laststepdown]

Does the Sons of Pale Horse tee also belong there? As far as I'm aware, it's never been available.

No, there's at least one that exists. Someone on this board has it, it was sent to them from Trent.

[gorast]

No, there's at least one that exists. Someone on this board has it, it was sent to them from Trent.

That still makes it essentially a hoax/joke, IMO, because it was never actually available to anyone else.

[spahn]

No, there's at least one that exists. Someone on this board has it, it was sent to them from Trent.

I have it and no, trent didn't send it to me.

[laststepdown]

I have it and no, trent didn't send it to me.

I forgot who was sent it to you I guess I just assumed I'm sorry

[ekrekel]

I have it and no, trent didn't send it to me.

ooooh, do tell

[piggy]

Alright, that's fixed. I guess somehow citing slipped my mind while putting together that page, but I've tried my best to cite the vast majority of what I add to the wiki.

[Erneuert]

@piggy, it’s been a while since I’ve done any extensive ninwiki edits (the last major ones were creating the individual song pages for The Vietnam War, Before The Flood and possibly Mid-90s). Is there anything recently added that you need assistance with? Any pages that need individual song page chronology added? Or missing BPMs?

Also, I haven’t really edited it since the revamp of the entire site. Is it reasonably user-friendly to edit like the old version?

[piggy]

@piggy, it’s been a while since I’ve done any extensive ninwiki edits (the last major ones were creating the individual song pages for The Vietnam War, Before The Flood and possibly Mid-90s). Is there anything recently added that you need assistance with? Any pages that need individual song page chronology added? Or missing BPMs?

Also, I haven’t really edited it since the revamp of the entire site. Is it reasonably user-friendly to edit like the old version?

I can't really think of much that needs help at the moment... The editing is still easy to do, although Malechite hasn't yet re-implemented the full-page edit mode.

[Erneuert]

I can't really think of much that needs help at the moment... The editing is still easy to do, although Malechite hasn't yet re-implemented the full-page edit mode.

Just noticed on the Halo 4 page that the releases section doesn’t mention the rare cassingle “cigarette box” release that I… think only came in the UK black artwork form? Or possibly the red one as well.

[piggy]

Just noticed on the Halo 4 page that the releases section doesn’t mention the rare cassingle “cigarette box” release that I… think only came in the UK black artwork form? Or possibly the red one as well.

Good catch. Added that bit, as well as the thing you mentioned elsewhere about the 2018 "Fragile teaser" sets.

[Malechite]

The editing is still easy to do, although Malechite hasn't yet re-implemented the full-page edit mode.

Thanks for the reminder! It's on my list. I definitely had to make some compromises when I decided to have just one responsive skin based on Wikimedia's mobile template instead of having to modify and maintain 2 separate skins like Wikipedia does.

Functionality I need to add back in:
- A "Full Page" edit button as opposed to just sections (workaround is removing &section= URL param after clicking edit)
- Category information needs to be added back to the bottom of pages
- Styles are missing from the File Upload page - I should at least make the "Upload" button look like a button
- Wiki Categories need to be re-linked from the main menu
- Tours need to be re-linked from the main menu
- Improve the slide out main menu on desktop
- Add 6 new "text label with background image" tiles on the main page that link to wiki areas
(These should basically mirror the items at the top of the main menu. This replaces the functionality of the missing "points of interest" from the old main page)
- Create new sub-templates to replace the old grey HTML tables on the discography page and tour pages
- ...and so much more

Are there any other missing pieces of functionality that you can think of at the moment?

[FULLMETAL]

Not sure if this minutiae is wiki worthy, but it would be sweet for reference purposes to know the audio specs for Digital releases (24/48, embedded lyrics, etc.) from NIN.com versus the other Hi-Def audio storefronts.

[jmtd]

I've finally done my annual ninwiki dump/backup to archive.org for 2021 (previous years: 2020, 2018, 2017)

This is the first dump since the theme change!

[Jon]

Mank (Standard) BPM

01. Welcome to Victorville = 57 bpm
02. Trapped! = 78 bpm
03. All This Time = 174 bpm
04. Enter Menace = 81 bpm
05. First Dictation = 127 bpm
06. A Fool's Paradise = 140 bpm
07. Once More Unto the Breach = 140 bpm
08. About Something = 58 bpm
09. Glendale Station = 140 bpm
10. What's at Stake? = 79 bpm
11. Every Thing You Do = 148 bpm
12. Cowboys and Indians = 109 bpm
13. Presumed Lost = 114 bpm
14. (If Only You Could) Save Me = 91 bpm
15. Means of Escape = 73 bpm
16. All This Time (A White Parasol) = 74 bpm
17. M.G.M. = 110 bpm
18. A Respectable Bribe = 118 bpm
19. I, Governor of California = 95 bpm
20. A Leaden Silence = 72 bpm
21. San Simeon Waltz = 120 bpm
22. Time Running Out = 79 bpm
23. Mank-heim = 143 bpm
24. Lend Me a Buck? = 130 bpm
25. You Wanted to See Me? = 140 bpm
26. In Your Arms Again = 152 bpm
27. The Dark Night of the Soul = 128 bpm
28. Clouds Gather = 0 bpm (?)
29. Way Back When = 200 bpm
30. An Idea Takes Hold = 61 bpm
31. Marion's Exit = 126 bpm
32. Absolution = 86 bpm
33. Scenes from Election Night = 109 bpm
34. Election Night-mare = 65 bpm
35. All This Time (Dance Interrupted) = 143 bpm
36. All This Time (Victorious) = 176 bpm
37. I'm Eve = 88 bpm
38. A Rare Bird = 73 bpm
39. Look at What We Did = 86 bpm
40. Menace Returns = 71 bpm
41. Forgive Me = 143 bpm
42. Final Regards = 88 bpm
43. Where Else Would I Be? = 134 bpm
44. The Organ Grinder = 140 bpm
45. All This Time (Not No More) = 174 bpm
46. Costume Party = 114 bpm
47. Dulcinea = 71 bpm
48. Shoot-out at the OK Corral = 78 bpm
49. The Organ Grinder's Monkey = 140 bpm
50. An Act of Purging Violence = 153 bpm
51. All This Time (Happily Ever After) = 129 bpm
52. A Rare Bird (Reprise) = 133 bpm

[botley]

Clouds Gather = 0 bpm (?)

62, fam!

[amplific]

Not having an account on the wiki, I'd like to suggest an update? The "bubbling synthesizer loops" from Throw This Way referenced in the Last article are the same from the beginning of Wish when he's singing "This is the first day of my last days" -- just different notes / tuning. Not sure if that also necessitates saying it contains elements from both "Last", "Suck", and "Wish", but I'll leave that up to the experts.

[Erneuert]

Not having an account on the wiki, I'd like to suggest an update? The "bubbling synthesizer loops" from Throw This Way referenced in the Last article are the same from the beginning of Wish when he's singing "This is the first day of my last days" -- just different notes / tuning. Not sure if that also necessitates saying it contains elements from both "Last", "Suck", and "Wish", but I'll leave that up to the experts.

It’s humbling to know facts are still being unravelled this far into the future of the band.

[piggy]

Cool. I've added that bit to the page. I remember feeling like those weird synth noises at the beginning of "Throw This Away" were familiar somehow. Haha.

[amplific]

Cool. I've added that bit to the page. I remember feeling like those weird synth noises at the beginning of "Throw This Away" were familiar somehow. Haha.

Awesome, thank you Piggy! Also, I’ve noticed some differences with the RockBand version of certain songs vs. their album versions. Do you have that accounted for already? If not I could come up with a list / descriptions.

[piggy]

Awesome, thank you Piggy! Also, I’ve noticed some differences with the RockBand version of certain songs vs. their album versions. Do you have that accounted for already? If not I could come up with a list / descriptions.

I don't think we have info on that, so that would be great.

[spahn]

Need some clarification.... Down In It on the ninwiki states that it was released 09/27 but on discogs and on wikipedia, it states 09/15. Thoughts?

[Malechite]

Need some clarification.... Down In It on the ninwiki states that it was released 09/27 but on discogs and on wikipedia, it states 09/15. Thoughts?

Pretty sure 9/15 is correct, that is what is here on nincatalog: https://nincatalog.com/down-in-it/down-in-it-us-cd-1/ as well as some other sources like discogs and the video on IMDB.

[spahn]

Pretty sure 9/15 is correct, that is what is here on nincatalog: https://nincatalog.com/down-in-it/down-in-it-us-cd-1/ as well as some other sources like discogs and the video on IMDB.

I've updated it on ninwiki.

[Suedehead]

The image used on the cover of the Suck bootleg ("Halo 0") is by comic book artist Howard Chaykin, from his series titled Black Kiss.

Here's a link it in its entirety; you'll find it on page 47 (as numbered on the bottom of the page itself).
https://www.comicextra.com/black-kiss/chapter-TPB/full

Obviously NSFW.

I assume this isn't widely known since it isn't on the Halo00 wikipage already.

[piggy]

Ok, I've added that info. Thanks.

[stlkr]

https://www.nin.wiki/Quake_Theme
processed screams by Reznor, sampled from "The Downward Spiral"

someone on whosampled pointed to scream being the same sample as in Ruiner
https://www.whosampled.com/sample/883098/Nine-Inch-Nails-Quake-Theme-Parents-Scream-Echoes-Through-the-House/

thoughts?

[piggy]

https://www.nin.wiki/Quake_Theme
processed screams by Reznor, sampled from "The Downward Spiral"

someone on whosampled pointed to scream being the same sample as in Ruiner
https://www.whosampled.com/sample/883098/Nine-Inch-Nails-Quake-Theme-Parents-Scream-Echoes-Through-the-House/

thoughts?

I personally compared the scream from TDS to the scream from the Quake theme. They're the same. The scream on TDS is recognizable as Trent and it has variations in pitch, whereas the scream from Parents is really just one pitch.

[zecho]

I don't think the scream in Quake Theme is the same one in The Downward Spiral. They're both obviously TR, but they're different recordings.

[piggy]

I really feel like the scream heard here at 1:35...


Is the same as the one heard coming in and out on this from 1:08 to around 1:30

[trollmanen]

I noticed there is no info on the Short Edit of We're In This Together on that page, which is from the recalled first promo CD. I can share scans and info if needed, though it can be found on nincatalog (https://nincatalog.com/were-in-this-...her-us-cd-485/).