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    Quote Originally Posted by kdrcraig View Post
    Haunting of Bly Manor was pretty good. Didn't like it as much as Hill House and it kind of fell apart in the last episode but it was a good time.
    we watched the first episode last night and i really liked it. the creeping sense of dread is palpable. there were multiple parts where i was just going "uuuuuuhhhhhhhh" in fearful tension for like a full minute haha sarah was cracking up at me but it didn't make me less scared.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eversonpoe View Post
    we watched the first episode last night and i really liked it. the creeping sense of dread is palpable. there were multiple parts where i was just going "uuuuuuhhhhhhhh" in fearful tension for like a full minute haha sarah was cracking up at me but it didn't make me less scared.
    Completely agree, it's a slow burn scare instead of a lot of jump scares like Hill House. I definitely enjoyed Bly Manor but I don't think I'll watch it again, Hill House will be a re-watch every Halloween

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    Quote Originally Posted by kdrcraig View Post
    Haunting of Bly Manor was pretty good. Didn't like it as much as Hill House and it kind of fell apart in the last episode but it was a good time.
    I felt like Hill House didn't fully stick the landing in the last episode. I enjoyed it, and it answered pretty much everything, but they were setting up a MAJOR confrontation once everyone gets to the house, and instead it was kinda flat for me. The way they showed things was okay, but they CHOSE to set up/tease a much more high octane finale than we got, and I felt let down by that.

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    Just finished the Bent neck lady episode and it freaked me out a bit (even though I figured out the twist earlier in the episode) . certainly have been doing double looks in my house in the shadows of the night and early morning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbie solo View Post
    I felt like Hill House didn't fully stick the landing in the last episode. I enjoyed it, and it answered pretty much everything, but they were setting up a MAJOR confrontation once everyone gets to the house, and instead it was kinda flat for me. The way they showed things was okay, but they CHOSE to set up/tease a much more high octane finale than we got, and I felt let down by that.
    i mean...i feel like the show is more about the emotional dynamics of the family than it is about the actual hauntings, so in that respect, it really stuck the landing (for me). i was a sobbing mess during that entire final episode. and that's all i'll say because i know there are folks in here watching it for the first time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by eversonpoe View Post
    i mean...i feel like the show is more about the emotional dynamics of the family than it is about the actual hauntings, so in that respect, it really stuck the landing (for me). i was a sobbing mess during that entire final episode. and that's all i'll say because i know there are folks in here watching it for the first time!
    Yup, I'm along those lines too. I'm not really a horror fan, but Hill House just broke my heart and I still get emotional when I think about some of the scenes and the general feeling throughout the season.

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    Bly Manor is great until like halfway through it starts getting fucky with time for absolutely no reason and it ruins the narrative. It comes at the expense of being scary too.

    Between that and the endless monologuing it completely shits the bed
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wretchedest View Post
    Bly Manor is great until like halfway through it starts getting fucky with time for absolutely no reason and it ruins the narrative. It comes at the expense of being scary too.
    I can get behind that. We watched the first 5 episodes on Saturday and loved it, finished it on Sunday and it felt like a pretty different show. The time thing definitely comes out of nowhere.

    I did enjoy it and there were some great performances, but it just ended up falling a bit flat. Either way, I'll look forward to new seasons as long as they keep making them.

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    The Haunting of Bly Manor has this fucking awful Return of the King style never ending ending. We were like "I guess this episode is like twice as long as the others" No. Its actually the shortest episode.

    Also "why are you ruining their wedding?" Is the persistent question from the very beginning of the thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wretchedest View Post
    Bly Manor is great until like halfway through it starts getting fucky with time for absolutely no reason and it ruins the narrative. It comes at the expense of being scary too.

    Between that and the endless monologuing it completely shits the bed
    Sadly, the time fuckery going on in episode 5 ended up being the most interesting thing to me. Then they explain all of it away and made it a huge bore. I'd probably still give the best episode to 5 for the series though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wretchedest View Post
    The Haunting of Bly Manor has this fucking awful Return of the King style never ending ending. We were like "I guess this episode is like twice as long as the others" No. Its actually the shortest episode.


    Also "why are you ruining their wedding?" Is the persistent question from the very beginning of the thing

    I agree, the last episode was just awful. If I may be allowed to vent for a minute...SPOILERS ahead..


    This series shit the bed in just about every way. The writing felt lazy and disjointed to me. I mean the main story was pretty much done halfway through the finale and they spent the rest of it cleaning up the mess they made with the series. Hey audience, Dani is going to be possessed by the lady in the lake now, but she's going to wait years and years before she does anything about it because first we need to show a flash forward montage so we can give this relationship with Dani and the gardener importance and we haven't done any of that yet even though we knew the gardener being the storyteller was the endgame. So pause the logic button while we fix our mess. Oh, and the kids? Yeah, well we really want to include this nice shot of the Uncle/Father and daughter dance and in order for any of it to make sense we are going to put in a throwaway line about "kids don't remember any of this because well kids are young and don't remember anything from their childhoods even though they were being terrorized by fucking ghosts." Gimme a break.


    But all that was just the lazy writing. The REAL crime here is the bait and switch marketing. Hey horror fans, check out the only horror anything dropping this October because of covid. This shit should have been aired on hallmark channel or something. Now, I've nothing against romance, but that's not what I signed up for. And to make matters worse, instead of respecting the audience and allowing them to notice the themes, they actually have the characters themselves spouting off bullshit lines like "its not a ghost story, its a romance." No shit. Can I have my 9 hours back please?


    This series was all tell and no show. The penultimate episode, which finally got away from the washed out/magazine photo shoot looking images and went to black and white, completely wasted an opportunity by having an episode long voice over monologue that explained WAY too much. Oh the lady in the lake isn't even special? She's just a real bitch. And she stayed a ghost because will power? Ok. Nothing mysterious left by the end, nothing left for the viewer to dwell on after the show is done. Ok, end rant.


    Hill House may have had a weak finale but at least it was compelling. This fails as both horror and romance in my book. Only my opinion of course. To those that found a way to enjoy it, good for you.

    And, I should mention that the acting was top notch the whole way through and the only thing holding it together at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eversonpoe View Post
    i mean...i feel like the show is more about the emotional dynamics of the family than it is about the actual hauntings, so in that respect, it really stuck the landing (for me).
    I agree that was the focus, and that's why i mostly was satisfied by the ending b/c it wrapped all that up clearly. That being said, the show DID tease more than once prior to the finale that once the family got the house, shit was gonna pop off...



    8:17 above. The house pulsing red once Luke arrives. How the house pulsed when Nelly got there too...baiting her. Considering the scares had been relatively subdued but rising so far, by the time we get to the house fucking with Luke when he shows up by pulsing red, I took that as meaning we would see some more intense haunting action in the finale once everyone was there. That was my interpretation at least, and I was looking forward to it.

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    Mike Flanagan directed all 10 episodes of Hill House and only directed 1 episode of Bly Manor, and I think it shows. This season just wasn't as good as the first. It wasn't scary or even creepy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by burnmotherfucker! View Post
    Hill House may have had a weak finale but at least it was compelling. This fails as both horror and romance in my book. Only my opinion of course. To those that found a way to enjoy it, good for you.
    While watching Bly Manor, I kept thinking of the film The Endless. That was a nice little film, and you get Spoiler: cosmic horror, Lovecraft, time loops, and Hopi thrown in to the lore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon View Post
    While watching Bly Manor, I kept thinking of the film The Endless. That was a nice little film, and you get Spoiler: cosmic horror, Lovecraft, time loops, and Hopi thrown in to the lore.

    Hey, I actually watched that film this year! I really enjoyed it. Even though the low budget showed itself a bit I really didn't care because the ideas were good and imo that is the most important aspect of good horror. I also watched the prequel/tie in made by those same directors Resolution: Cabin of Death. I would love to see them get a big budget film one of these days.


    But that makes me wonder, what exactly linked the Endless with Bly for you? Was it memory/time loop aspects? I'm always a big fan of those themes. I just thought Bly explained them way too much, to the point they became safe and unimportant. But then again I'm always biased toward the horror genre and great horror needs to leave you thinking. It can give you some pieces to the puzzle but never all of them, imo.


    Speaking of Lovecraftian horror, have you by chance seen Color Out Of Space? I thought it was pretty bonkers and that it came as close as anything I've seen to what its like to actually read a Lovecraft story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by burnmotherfucker! View Post
    Hey, I actually watched that film this year! I really enjoyed it. Even though the low budget showed itself a bit I really didn't care because the ideas were good and imo that is the most important aspect of good horror. I also watched the prequel/tie in made by those same directors Resolution: Cabin of Death. I would love to see them get a big budget film one of these days.


    But that makes me wonder, what exactly linked the Endless with Bly for you? Was it memory/time loop aspects? I'm always a big fan of those themes. I just thought Bly explained them way too much, to the point they became safe and unimportant. But then again I'm always biased toward the horror genre and great horror needs to leave you thinking. It can give you some pieces to the puzzle but never all of them, imo.


    Speaking of Lovecraftian horror, have you by chance seen Color Out Of Space? I thought it was pretty bonkers and that it came as close as anything I've seen to what its like to actually read a Lovecraft story.
    Mainly that and how differently the two handled some of the same concepts. As a matter of fact, you summed up some of my feelings very well. There was still intrigue by the end of The Endless, Bly Manor felt like being repeatedly hit over the head with the same thing. I understand that's the point, to feel trapped in the characters' hopelessness with them; it was perhaps 2 episodes overlong.

    For better or worse, I think I've seen just about every Lovecraftian horror movie there is. Color Out of Space was good, have you seen Europa Report? One of the better found-footage movies, and its "Lovecraft" from a different perspective (without spoiling anything).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon View Post
    Mainly that and how differently the two handled some of the same concepts. As a matter of fact, you summed up some of my feelings very well. There was still intrigue by the end of The Endless, Bly Manor felt like being repeatedly hit over the head with the same thing. I understand that's the point, to feel trapped in the characters' hopelessness with them; it was perhaps 2 episodes overlong.


    For better or worse, I think I've seen just about every Lovecraftian horror movie there is. Color Out of Space was good, have you seen Europa Report? One of the better found-footage movies, and its "Lovecraft" from a different perspective (without spoiling anything).

    I actually haven't seen many Lovecraft horror films but I have noticed an increase in his influence on the genre as a whole. I think the enormity of Lovecraft's world pretty much guarantees a sense of hopelessness. The sense that humanity could be crushed at any time is always right under the surface in the work of his I've read, which is great for horror films. Black Mountain Side is another film I've seen recently that had his influence (as well as Carpenter's The Thing) all over it.


    I have not seen Europa Report. If I'm being honest, when I see "found footage" in a description I run the other way. I am admittedly snobbish when it comes to film and I think that that style gives studios an excuse to drain the budget and lower audience expectations over the long haul at the expense of cinematography and the language of cinema. I don't begrudge anyone for liking it though, its just not for me personally. I gave Blair Witch a pass because it felt novel at the time but everything after I just haven't enjoyed. Needless to say the sudden appearance of directors like Robert Eggers (The Lighthouse is a bit Lovecraftian), Ari Aster, Osgood Perkins, Jennifer Kent, and Jordan Peele, etc. has been refreshing to see for me.


    But I did read a quick description of Europa Report and I have to admit taking found footage to Jupiter does make me wonder how they pull that off. So maybe I'll get around to checking it out one of these days and hopefully I'll be pleasantly surprised.

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