Seems like a lot of people are down on it so this seems like as good a thread as any to mention that I think The Lovers is the best song on Add Violence. The Background World comes close but the off-balance, delirious seductiveness of The Lovers, the creepy and abstract lyrics married with the dueling tensions of hesitance and longing...it just hits me in the right spot. I find it very beautiful and particularly haunting. The Song Exploder feature on it only deepened that sense for me, and confirmed what a personal song it is for Trent. The fact it got played so often on Cold & Black & Infinite - probably more than any other Add Violence track - further evidences that it's a work he's pretty proud of, at least to me.
When I consider the fans that aren't on ETS, I'd certainly hope so. (It's happened to me before on forums, seeing reactions and opinions one way or another, but in real life, it's not always the case, and sometimes anything but such, even with NIN.)
But yes. Starfuckers is still by far one of my most favorite songs from The Fragile. Starfuckers and Into The Void are what also got me into The Fragile altogether.
Me neither. I always thought it would've down great by fans that loved Head Like A Hole and Down In It. (I thought Down In It as far as the way the vocals flowed, but even the live version of Down In It packs quite the punch.)
As for the Add Violence, I've actually liked This Isn't The Place more than The Lovers. (As far as comparing the 2 soft/slow songs out of the rest of Add Violence.)
The Background World is still my most favorite song on it though, perhaps followed by Less Than (The catchy parts still won me over.) and Not Anymore very near it. Not Anymore got me to feel some Wish and Ruiner vibes in it as well, as well as Year Zero vibes in general. Since the trilogy has been completed, Add Violence is still my go-to release most of the time whenever I listen to it.
I also forgot to mention that No, You Don't is also one of my most favorite songs from the Right disc as well. I don't know what else to say, aside from how I just even able appreciated the instrumentals on their own.
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People really underrate the stripped down, rawer rock songs (The Collector, Getting Smaller, most of The Slip).
I miss this too. It bugs me whenever I watch videos from recent shows that Trent sounds so deep nowadays, then I feel like an asshole for blaming him for a totally natural biological process. We gotta get Trent on some estrogen for some All The Love In The World shenanigans
Seriously though, I really do wish for this perfect NIN reality where we could get the high notes of Young Trent, and the overall composed-ness and consistency of Older Trent. Then I wonder why I care so much, especially since it's not like the recordings of Trent's higher voice have disappeared or anything. It's just a weird hang-up I have that prevents me from enjoying the music to the extent that I otherwise could.
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I somehow forgot and messed up, as I kept thinking about Starfuckers, Inc. while writing that. I also tend to sometimes listen to both songs back-to-back. I can't believe that I did that either, especially as a long-time fan. Whoa. (Yeah, that pretty much sums it up right there.)
Anyway, No, You Don't and Starfuckers, Inc. are still among my most favorite songs from The Fragile altogether. I also always enjoyed hearing Pilgrimage segue into No, You Don't as well. The flow always seemed just right to me.
I kind of like Not So Pretty Now. *ducks*
'Closer' could be better live, its too rushed and under-produced live.
I know we have a ton of soundtracks to enjoy (and I do), but I also secretly hope for another Ghosts album.
I dunno how that's controversial. That makes me really sad if people don't like that song. It was one of the songs that immediately grabbed me upon first hearing TDS 25 years ago. It was also one of the easier songs to "edit" the naughty words out on playback since my stereo at the time allowed me to pan the speakers. Oh, to be 13 again lmao.
I would download an entire album worth of Ashley O NIN covers.
I know this would be anything but another Ghosts, except for being instrumental, but I'd actually love it if the songs to were be more akin to the likes of Driver Down, Tetsuo: The Bullet Man Theme, Appendage and Hello, Everything Is Not OK.
(Or perhaps pretty much like some parts of The Fragile: Deviations 1 in some ways as well, but just all new/non-The Fragile material.)
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Hearing Trent pick up the sax again for the trilogy is actually what brought me back here. No joke.
Maybe it's been said before but I actually greatly prefer the live arrangement of "1,000,000" from 2013-2018 over the one they played in 2008/2009... not as heavy without the guitar but the synth just makes it sound a bit weirder, in a good way. Same goes for "Sanctified" from that period; preferable to the version from the PHM tours and 1995/1996.
Oh and I miss Pino's bass intro on "March of the Pigs" from 2013... loved the sludgy-ness of it.
Also, semi-related, but I've always thought that "Memorabilia" would make for amazing live show closer... long and meandering with that pulsating beat running throughout, plenty of room for improv, strobe lights, each member walking off stage at the end, reminiscent of "In This Twilight" circa 2008/2009. I've loved all the show closers I've seen but this would be very different than I think anything they've done before ("Head Like a Hole", "Hurt", "Happiness in Slavery", "In This Twilight", etc.)
I don't know about closing out the show, but I would absolutely love to see it get performed at some point, precisely because there's a lot that could be done with it in a live setting. Plus, we could finally hear Robin say "What do your nipples look like?" LIVE!
Memorabilia would work very well in the Me I'm Not/The Warning/Vessel/The Great Destroyer style with everyone on synths. Trent also sometimes sings something resembling Memorabilia melody during Survivalism (before the last verse)
sunspots does nothing for me. i want to find it sexy. i want to like it. but i just...don't. and it makes me sad