Ministry

[Sutekh]

Not trying to be contrarian, but coming from a family of drunks, I can assure you there's lot of room in the pisshead spectrum for variation & a lot of them certainly do.

Also my last lodger never went out but would sit in his room each night and cane 6 tins of beer or a bottle of red wine. Going out and drinking is just too expensive if you're doing it every day, and not every drunk has to drink until there's no money in his account or nothing left in the house, many drink just enough to get the monkey off their back for the evening.

[Piko]

His albums haven't been selling at all. His label is bleeding money. His current direction is far from lucrative. Only reason I think he brought ministry back this time was to pay off his doctor bills. I don't think he's rolling in the cash flow as much as some want to believe.

[DVYDRNS]

Boggles the mind that he wouldn't have insurance. But then again... What insurance company would cover him...

[Senateguard33]

Either that or he pulls out some old synths. And says he's going back to his roots.

Because that certainly wasn't him with those chops.

He said he was doing a solo album, but I haven't heard much about in a couple of years. But he described it as "Pop stuff, like that first album that I fucking hate, but it's pop that I want to do." He did release an EP called Alien Christmas. The music was good, but unfortunately he didn't use his natural singing voice. It's a shame, because the guy can sing. He is also more musically capable than what he's made himself out to be these past 13 years. Al is a cool guy, but he is a poseur. He never was a new romantic, an industrialist and he certainly isn't a butt rock hillbilly. One thing I've always admired about Trent is how much class he has.

[Sutekh]

Al sings normally on some bridge school benefit thing, and sounded really good (edit - it's on a previous page, derp)

[Piko]

Boggles the mind that he wouldn't have insurance. But then again... What insurance company would cover him...

Still gotta pay a deductible.

And Al is indeed a very capable musician. What amazes me the most, is how he insists on using that cheap sounding drum machine instead of investing into an actual drummer. He can obviously play the guitar well enough that he didn't really need the other guys. But instead he got guys to play everything for him. That's puzzling.

[Sutekh]

Bought chris connelly's book on a recommendation from here - excellent book & very funny. Have more or less no more questions about that period!

[SM Rollinger]

I heard a rumored that a new Ministry album in the works a couple weeks back. Anybody heard anything more about this? IMO if its going to be anything like Relapse, then Al shouldnt even bother. I doubt it though, since his records seem to come in 3s from a musical standpoint. (WS, 12" and Twitch being the classic era. Lorah, Mind and Psalm the Industrial era. Filth Pig, Dsots and Ani the Barker era. and of course we all know about the Bush trilogy...)

On a more positive note Animositisomina turned 10 recently, so i decided to give it a few listen Wow! thats all i can say! There is some seriosuly good stuff on here. Broken, Impossible and Leper stand out as my favorites, and i love Stolen too(any of Barkers solo tracks are great). People give this album alot of flak for having a "tinny" sounding mix, but it doesnt take the human ear more than a couple minutes to adjust to the way something "sounds," and once that happens, i think the mix adds to the discomfort\confrontational atmosphere of the record. Overall, its a great closer to the "Barker" trilogy, and in my eyes, the final "true" Ministry record.

[DVYDRNS]

animositysomina was a fantastic record. with some great tracks on it for sure. Not sure why records like Mole get more love than Animostiy does.

[Space Suicide]

animositysomina was a fantastic record. with some great tracks on it for sure. Not sure why records like Mole get more love than Animostiy does.

Namely because it was released at a bad, awkward time between transitions of styles and eras.

[Piko]

Last great ministry album. It was post-narcotics and pre-alcohism Al. Follows where Spoon left off, less chaos.

And there will probably be another ministry album. From what I gather, Scaccia contributed some before he died. Possibly his last recordings.

[thefragile_jake]

animositysomina was a fantastic record. with some great tracks on it for sure. Not sure why records like Mole get more love than Animostiy does.

Agreed.

Haven't listened to Ministry in years but that album is really good, it's before they got all "studio metal" sounding.

[SM Rollinger]

come on al, the puns were old back when dark side came out

[Piko]

New stuff. Dub?

[SM Rollinger]

lolz, the posts were within a minute of eachother, awesome

[Piko]

Hah! It happens.

[DVYDRNS]

Vids are private. What are they?

[Piko]

Recording sessions for the new album: From Beer to Eternity (no joke). Al and Mikey, mostly. They played a dub song (fake steel drums of course). Then gloated about The Rolling Stones.

[DVYDRNS]

Ugh

That sounds wonderful....

[thefragile_jake]

Good lord....

So how do we watch these videos? I take it you have to be a member or something?

[Sutekh]

Weird, I thought with Scaccia dying he would actually pack it in once and for all

[SM Rollinger]

The youtube Beer to Eternity vids are un-privatized.

and....

http://www.amazon.com/Ministry-Lost-...0/ref=rec_dp_2
(al's memoir/autobio has a release date. im sure ill be picking this one up, but i have a suspicion that hes gonna gloss over the 80s tho...)

[Halo Infinity]

I hope he doesn't. I'm always curious as to what other thoughts he might have on his pre-The Land of Rape and Honey works along with what other experiences he might've had back then. I'm even pleasantly surprised that he's bothered to even write a book.

[Space Suicide]

I bet that autobiography touches briefly on anything pre-2003 and mainly focuses on his "recent" struggles from about 2006-2012. Alcoholism abound.

[SM Rollinger]

Agreeded, post Paul era.

Havent been a fan of anything since Houses to be honest. When I was younger, I was all about the LORAH/Mind/Psalm block, industrial all the way. But the last couple years, ive been real into basically anything Land and older. Once I found some of the boots from 1982, it was like rediscovering Ministry all over again.

Man, what I wouldnt give to have Al do a proper "retrospective" tour. Play some of the stuff from the WaxTrax era and freakin' Over the Shoulder. Now its just 60 minutes of thrash karaoke, with 4 "classics" tacked on at the end.

edit: i forgot to include this, courtsey of darkcircleroom folks...
REVOLTING COCKS live! You Goddamn Son of a Bitch , Restored!
Ive said this before, but back in the day, Ministry and Revco were basically the same band. With the exception of Chris Connely and various occasional guests.

Sorry to drift off there, but ill probably check out the book regardless. Ive avoided Fix because, as I hear time and time again, "if you want to retain any respect for Al, then dont watch it."

[DVYDRNS]

Seems to me that Connelly was just as much a part of Ministry as he was REVCO back then... So I would say theyre the same band with the exception of some occasional guests.

[SM Rollinger]

Ok, i stand corrected! Ministry + Guests = REVCO

[DVYDRNS]

regarding that video. its pathetic to see him drinking beer at this point. the man has a death wish.

[kenthebear]

Looks like the new Ministry album is coming out sooner rather than later, as the marketing campaign is beginning to start which suggests its complete.

I still haven't listened to Relapse yet.

[Space Suicide]

Looks like the new Ministry album is coming out sooner rather than later, as the marketing campaign is beginning to start which suggests its complete.

I still haven't listened to Relapse yet.

Don't bother, it's mostly shit.