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Thread: halo twenty eight. hesitation marks. 09.03.2013

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Channard View Post
    Well, that may depend on what your job is. If you’re at the office making copies of the report for the big meeting, Copy of A may be called for. If you’re a pizza delivery person struggling to find the right house, racing against the “free pizza” delivery deadline clock, then perhaps Find My Way or Running might be appropriate. If your career path has lead you to the gainful employment of whoring your body on the cruel streets to unsavory individuals for 5 bucks a pop, maybe All Time Low should be spinning.
    That's not listening to the album. That's listening to separate tracks.

    . . . In b4 sheepdean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khrz View Post
    Yeah if anything, in the context of CoA, it feels like a better comparison.



    But, it's just an arpeggio. Given Reznor's musical background, it's not surprising that he would use it, and I don't really think it's a nod to anything in particular, other than "How do I conclude that song... Hey, I've never done arpeggi..."
    That reminds me more of the arpeggio during the "stretch across the sky" part of "All Time Low" than of "Copy of a."

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    The lyrics in 'Copy of A':
    Always my intention my intention your attention
    Just doing everything you tell me to

    Is the YOUR and YOU referring to his fans? I've always wondered about this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by placepinion View Post
    The lyrics in 'Copy of A':
    Always my intention my intention your attention
    Just doing everything you tell me to

    Is the YOUR and YOU referring to his fans? I've always wondered about this.
    imo the whole song is about fans and critics, but he rarely discusses meaning

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    Quote Originally Posted by sheepdean View Post
    imo the whole song is about fans and critics
    if this is so, I think that's the major downfall, when fans and critics all praise the song about them it's a sign of something went terribly wrong.

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    Not necessarily. The ones that can understand that and appreciate it for that meaning are likely the ones that aren't constantly judging him for what he releases and just enjoy whatever he ends up putting out. Not necessarily in a fanboy/girl sense, but in an open-minded sense... or something like that.

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    People can change their perspectives, too. No reason a fan can't be more judgmental or close-minded at one point and then later on become more open. I think most fans go through that to some extent, thinking, "I hope this is like my favorite old album" when a new album comes out and then later looking at the album as its own thing (whether they like the new album or not).

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    Quote Originally Posted by placepinion View Post
    The lyrics in 'Copy of A':
    Always my intention my intention your attention
    Just doing everything you tell me to

    Is the YOUR and YOU referring to his fans? I've always wondered about this.
    I think that like many nin songs it’s a jab at those damn metaphoric conquistadores who took their share.

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    You had to pick the one cover...

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    That still made my day, TR written or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khrz View Post
    You had to pick the one cover...

    Well, for me it’s like Admiral Paul Revere said following his victory in the battle of Arnhem against the invading templar knights during the war of 1812. He said, “Facts are facts, and I don’t know ‘em.”

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    Happy Hesitation Marks day.

    Now it's a complete two years. I also remember buying two copies of it, as I gave the other one to a very close friend as a belated birthday present.


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    'All Time Low' has finally clicked with me (I'm, slow sometimes).

    I've listened to this track many times before, but today I got a bit deeper. I listened while reading the lyrics; coupled with good headphones and maybe in a bit of a mood myself.

    I like the different voices used; to emulate "the passengers" and "whispers in his ears" etc... whoever said HM is a happy album?

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    After all these years I think this hat theory I scribbled helps me understand NIN.

    Is TR dealing with multiple personalities; or unsure on what hat he is supposed to wear today; or unsure on what hat is his; or unable to keep certain hats off of his head; and often doesn't want people to see his hats?

    Wearing hats as an idiom, of course. Could use mask as well.

    Quite the struggle, he has.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snaapz View Post
    After all these years I think this hat theory I scribbled helps me understand NIN.

    Is TR dealing with multiple personalities; or unsure on what hat he is supposed to wear today; or unsure on what hat is his; or unable to keep certain hats off of his head; and often doesn't want people to see his hats?
    I think for the making of HM Trent had on his Swedish Chef hat.

    Now I want to know what the nin album sounds like that came from Trent wearing his Kaiser Wilhelm II hat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Channard View Post
    I think for the making of HM Trent had on his Swedish Chef hat.
    that made me laugh a lot harder than it probably should

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    Quote Originally Posted by snaapz View Post
    After all these years I think this hat theory I scribbled helps me understand NIN.

    Is TR dealing with multiple personalities; or unsure on what hat he is supposed to wear today; or unsure on what hat is his; or unable to keep certain hats off of his head; and often doesn't want people to see his hats?

    Wearing hats as an idiom, of course. Could use mask as well.

    Quite the struggle, he has.
    i reckon he was wearing his anima hat, frequently, with hesitation marks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by placepinion View Post
    The lyrics in 'Copy of A':
    Always my intention my intention your attention
    Just doing everything you tell me to

    Is the YOUR and YOU referring to his fans? I've always wondered about this.
    i thought this was a shout out to his dominatrix??? lol ;p

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    Ermahgerd Hesitation Marks just seems to get better with time! Was listening to it again on vinyl last evening and shit is bangin' from beginning to end

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    I mean, except for 'Everything'

    Still not sure what he was thinking with that one

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    I'd take Everything over a few tracks that people have deemed "classics".

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRoswell View Post
    I'd take Everything over a few tracks that people have deemed "classics".
    Do tell..

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYRexall View Post
    Do tell..
    "Classics" I would take Everything over:
    Down In It
    Suck
    Ruiner
    The Line Begins To Blur
    Survivalism

    And that's just songs I've seen a lot of people speak highly of. That's not counting songs like Kinda I Want To, which I think is way more embarrassing than anything in Everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRoswell View Post
    "Classics" I would take Everything over:
    Down In It
    Suck
    Ruiner
    The Line Begins To Blur
    Survivalism
    Whaaaaaaat? Seriously?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYRexall View Post
    Whaaaaaaat? Seriously?
    You asked. I answered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRoswell View Post
    "Classics" I would take Everything over:
    Down In It
    Suck
    Ruiner
    The Line Begins To Blur

    Survivalism

    ...
    Yes, yes, hundred times yes! These are so overrated!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRoswell View Post
    You asked. I answered.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BRoswell View Post
    "Classics" I would take Everything over:
    Down In It
    Suck
    Ruiner
    The Line Begins To Blur
    Survivalism
    you would take 'Everything' over 'Down In It' and 'Ruiner'. LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

    you just lost any credibility you had with me......not that you had any in the first place

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    Quote Originally Posted by billpulsipher View Post
    you just lost any credibility you had with me......not that you had any in the first place
    So how the fuck would I lose it?

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    I wonder if those that don't care for Down In It and have never listened to it in a good car stereo with good subs would change their mind.

    That song fucking bumps (a lot of NIN does, actually). Also it's what got me into NIN at first.

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