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    Quote Originally Posted by BrokenSpiral View Post
    New song is better than anything off the last album with Scott.
    That's not far from the truth. Hazy Daze or Take A Load Off were of the same caliber (but the rest of the album was thorough garbage). It may have even been worse than the Talk Show LP, which is saying something. I am excited that Ken Andrews was behind the boards here. And the setlists could be interesting if they open up the catelogue. Songs like Naked Sunday, Adhesive, and No Way Out would be awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrokenSpiral View Post
    New song is better than anything off the last album with Scott.
    Last album Scott recorded the vocals in a separate studio. I do like it, but it would have sounded better had they all recorded together.

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    It’s got more balls than even the decent songs on that album. Closer sound to No. 4, which is a good thing.

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    Yeah, it's grown on me.

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    After a couple more listens, I must admit....this shit is fire.

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    STP has always been one of my favorite bands, largely because of Scott's vocals but there is no chance he will be back in the band. When I first heard "Meadow" my first thought was this was a song that was kicking around back when Scott was playing with them it was demo'd up with Scott but for whatever reason they never went further with it. The remaining members of STP remembered it, let the new singer hear it and asked him to sing just like Scott. The reason I think this is because the vocal phrasings are very similar to Weiland, it is one thing to sound like somebody else but it is something entirely different when the vocal phrasings are really close to the original singers phrasings and style.

    STP has never really had a lot of luck whenever they have tried to get a new singer, but this time around I think they may have found somebody who will work. What I have heard of their new material is pretty good.

    In my opinion they will never be able to replace Scott Weiland. Now they have no other choice. I think this could work. I think the genre of rock music is so starved these days for anything good, and its nice to hear STP is back.

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    Not a huge fan of STP without Scott, or AIC without Layne. In my mind it just isnít the same. Almost like they become a cover of themselves. TON did the right thing to hang it up and individually move on to other projects after Peter died.

    That said, these two new songs aren't bad, definitely better than the stuff from the 2010 album (with Scott), and itís understandable if a band wants to continue on under an established and profitable moniker. Scott was just one of four, and the others shouldn't have to be forced to disband because of his refusal to make responsible decisions. The whole situation is fucked and unfortunate.

    I don't know much about Jeff, and while the two studio songs sound ok, I wasn't a fan of the live troubadour performance. His range didn't sound as broad or clear as Scott, but that might have been a recording quality thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Channard View Post
    Not a huge fan of STP without Scott, or AIC without Layne. In my mind it just isn’t the same. Almost like they become a cover of themselves. TON did the right thing to hang it up and individually move on to other projects after Peter died.

    That said, these two new songs aren't bad, definitely better than the stuff from the 2010 album (with Scott), and it’s understandable if a band wants to continue on under an established and profitable moniker. Scott was just one of four, and the others shouldn't have to be forced to disband because of his refusal to make responsible decisions. The whole situation is fucked and unfortunate.

    I don't know much about Jeff, and while the two studio songs sound ok, I wasn't a fan of the live troubadour performance. His range didn't sound as broad or clear as Scott, but that might have been a recording quality thing.

    I agree with what you are saying, I'm a big fan of STP and to think STP going on without Scott is unfathomable. Just like AIC the remaining members have no other choice. I completely agree with these bands being in danger of being a cover of themselves.

    I don't think STP's new singer will have a problem singing the older (Scott) material, it seems to be his strong point emulating Scott. It will be interesting to see if the new singer receives a writing credit for any of the new STP songs. Somehow I feel that some of the these songs may be music that was left over from the Scott era just redone with a new singer.

    I also agree that the situation that STP had to endure with Scott Weiland wasn't fair to the remaining members. I think Weiland was probably the best singer to come along within last the 25 years, that being said truly talented people tend to be lacking elsewhere in their lives, be it, addiction or other various problems. As great a Weiland was, he didn't make it alone, the DeLeo brothers and Eric had a hand in the success of STP as well. I think the writing as well Dean's guitar playing all played a part in the success of STP.

    The only way we are ever going to hear Scott with STP again is if there is some unreleased material floating around.

    So far the new STP stuff isn't bad so I will give it a chance.

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    I can’t believe it....

    I actually like that latest song.

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    I’ll tell you what. With this new song, a casual listener that didn’t know Scott died wouldn’t know this isn’t him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrokenSpiral View Post
    I’ll tell you what. With this new song, a casual listener that didn’t know Scott died wouldn’t know this isn’t him.
    Yup.


    Has a kind of SLDD vibe. I'm pleasantly surprised by Jeff Gutt. He's not Weiland, obviously, but I think he's probably a better fit for STP than Chester was.

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    I absolutely adore this side of STP! My question about Jeff has been "but can he croon?" and this is pretty good!

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    The new song is pretty good, I agree with what some of you said that it has a No4 vibe to it (one of my favorite STP records!)

    On the other hand, just as with AIC, my biggest problem is having a new singer who sounds a lot like the old one. To me, that cheapens the artistry of it. I don't mind them continuing with the same band name, I get it, but it makes it feel like a cover band. I want to hear musicians go into new territory and towards something, and it's just the opposite of that.

    Few bands did this transition well in history, Joy Division comes to mind, and in a strange way I always thought of Velvet Revolver as GnR with a new singer (I know it's not quite accurate, but that's what it feels like) and it worked, Slash brought his signature style and it felt very "hair metal" at places, but it was a new band and it was its own thing.

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    So far this feels pretty natural to me, aside from Meadow. As someone here said it sounds like a left over from the last album that Scott already had a vocal for and they just re-did it with the new guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hellospaceboy View Post
    The new song is pretty good, I agree with what some of you said that it has a No4 vibe to it (one of my favorite STP records!)

    On the other hand, just as with AIC, my biggest problem is having a new singer who sounds a lot like the old one. To me, that cheapens the artistry of it. I don't mind them continuing with the same band name, I get it, but it makes it feel like a cover band. I want to hear musicians go into new territory and towards something, and it's just the opposite of that.

    Few bands did this transition well in history, Joy Division comes to mind, and in a strange way I always thought of Velvet Revolver as GnR with a new singer (I know it's not quite accurate, but that's what it feels like) and it worked, Slash brought his signature style and it felt very "hair metal" at places, but it was a new band and it was its own thing.
    In what way does William sound like Layne?

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    So...I got the chance to see STP on Saturday night, fourth time seeing them, first time with the new singer.

    I have to say, I was very skeptical going on, but I kept an open mind and genuinely wanted to like the new guy and wanted to enjoy the show (they're my second favorite band, I was really, really hoping it would not be disappointing). Was on the floor, maybe three feet behind the rail, which was awesome. I have to say, the new singer is REALLY good, you guys. His voice is fine, but his performance and stage presence is what really impressed me. He absolutely fits in with the rest of the band. Like, perfectly. It wasn't the same without Scott (and I didn't expect it to be) but it was still a GREAT show, and STP still remains (ha ha ha) one of my favorite bands to see live. I've never seen a show of theirs where they didn't just blow the roof off the place.

    Setlist spoilers follow. Sorry, I can't remember how to spoiler tag stuff. Anyway, I was a little disappointed we missed a few of the usual staples ("Creep" and "Big Bang Baby" were noticeably absent) but oh my GOD, did we get some really good songs that they haven't played in awhile (and I have never seen live). Particularly "Pruno" (which was AWESOME), "Atlanta" (ohmygod), "Glide" (!!!) and one of my absolute favorite STP songs, "Still Remains" (which was SO GREAT, I had never seen it live before). They played all their big stuff during the main set, closing it out with "Dead and Bloated" and "Trippin' on a Hole in a Paper Heart" (the best song of the night the last three times I've seen them). They came back for "Down" and "Piece of Pie" as an encore.

    All in all it was a great show. I'm kind of bummed because some douchebag ruined part of it for me (specifically missed two of my favorite STP songs, WTF, dude) but I am so glad I went. I will always see them whenever they come to town.

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    Wow, them playing all of those songs off of #4 is pretty awesome.

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    3.5/5 review from the All Music Guide:

    https://www.allmusic.com/album/stone...8-mw0003148798

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    Must be an exciting listen if it came out today and there are no thoughts.

    I remembered that it came out today about five minutes before I had to leave for work and I knew my ipod wouldn't update fast enough so I'm stuck knowing it's on my computer but I can't listen to it.

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    Heard a little bit from it. Doesn't seem bad. Pretty tame though.

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    I kinda expect them to play it safe first. Gotta get comfortable with the guy first....then the good shit happens

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    This record is easily better than STP (2010). Obviously in the absence of Weiland, nothing will ever top the first 4 albums (so it will probably rank alongside the High Rise EP and Army of Anyone in the pantheon of DeLeo releases). Definitely better than Talk Show and STP (2010). Shangri-La will be the closest comparison I think.

    The only negative so far is that Gutt sounds suspiciously close to Weiland on certain songs. Sometimes it feels intentional and makes me squeamish (like I am listening to a tribute act). Certainly hope that fades in time.

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    The album is pretty damn good.

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    Love the new album. It's hard to compare it with the first five, as we've had years to digest them, but it's definitely better than what I expected. It's better than the 2010 album and their EP with Chester (I liked both). I liked Coutts, Patrick and Bennington, but Gutt is the best fit for the DeLeo brothers, apart from Weiland.

    The albums reminds me a little of AIC's BGWTB--the band sounds reborn, fresh, renewed.

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    Finest Hour makes me feel really nostalgic. Sounds like vintage STP

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    Love this song:

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    Stone Temple Pilots, Bush and The Cult are going on tour together this summer:
    https://www.rollingstone.com/music/n...3-tour-w518586

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    Dean DeLeo's wife files for divorce and accuses him of domestic violence.

    http://www.tmz.com/2018/06/25/stone-...stic-violence/

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