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    Really enjoying the Panorama webcast today; 'Less Than' is the mashing of 'Copy' and 'Hand that Feeds.' Ground-breaking it is not but frankly a band has to bring the bangers. This is kind of similarity is fine from my critical perspective as long as tracks like 'This isn't the Place' explore odd timing and keyboard textures.

    YouTube commenters point out that Ross is adding details to things like the coda of 'Pigs.' Something sounding fresher, this must be it. Also a subtle surprise- the Closer piano coda with the meek, falsetto chorus is new and nicely done. I saw 'Copy' during the Tension Tour, this version has muscular drum fills, different delays on the vocal and lacks for sleekness, but its now rock and not minimal techno. Still think single edits of this one and 'Low' could've been radio hits.

    'Gave Up' is ending and the band is getting free with the noise. Being a viewer of hundreds of noise shows and auxillary (Sp) player in a couple acts, I fully support NIN extending this kind of coda for minutes more.

    Gorgeous cover of Bowie. Seems like 'Lovers' will replace 'Find my Way' as the weirdly IDM-influenced ballad. Wish (ahem) that a different dirge would replace 'Reptile,' never been a fan. 'She's Gone Away' would sound great in its place. Hopefully I will experience 'Burning Bright' on an amphitheater scale soundsystem someday, its an arena rock song congealed in Sludge metal (a la the Body). I find it very uplifting.

    Back to the show
    Last edited by SarahConnor; 09-04-2017 at 01:49 PM.

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    Now I'm onto this:

    In retrospect, this tour seems legendary. However at the time it got a lukewarm reception yeah? I tried to round-up some friends to make an 8-hour round trip to St. Louis, on a school night no less, no takers. But wow that show would've set teen SarahConnor on a different path I'm sure. Too bad the tee shirts on eBay are pretty grim looking or else I'd buy one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarahConnor View Post
    ...as long as tracks like 'This isn't the Place' explore odd timing and keyboard textures...
    ok, you're the second person i've seen mention an "odd timing" aspect to "this isn't the place" and i'm really confused because that song is in straight 3/4 time. is there something i'm missing, or are y'all hallucinating?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eversonpoe View Post
    ok, you're the second person i've seen mention an "odd timing" aspect to "this isn't the place" and i'm really confused because that song is in straight 3/4 time. is there something i'm missing, or are y'all hallucinating?
    I think they're talking about the 3/4 against 6/8 that becomes prominent at about 1:11 through 1:58, and then returns again later. (The song is 6/8, btw, not 3/4.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ribbitman View Post
    The very ending of Right Where it Belongs always makes me want to tear up… those piano notes. Feels like Trent was finally free after all the shit through Broken, TDS, Fragile
    That ending always gets to me too. Those quavering piano notes end With Teeth in such a perfect way.

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    Burning Bright might have become my favourite NIN song, and the truth, I did not expect this at this point in Trent's career.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mauro995 View Post
    Burning Bright might have become my favourite NIN song, and the truth, I did not expect this at this point in Trent's career.
    Yes! I feel that way about that song and she's gone away. SGA is one of the juiciest nin songs ever. It drips of sexy synths, hypnotic drums and trent screaming. So damn good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ribbitman View Post
    The very ending of Right Where it Belongs always makes me want to tear up… those piano notes. Feels like Trent was finally free after all the shit through Broken, TDS, Fragile
    oh my god, I thought the same thing, those ending piano notes just feel like a release from pain that has gonne on for far too long. It always makes me tear up just thinking about it for some reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBang View Post
    I think they're talking about the 3/4 against 6/8 that becomes prominent at about 1:11 through 1:58, and then returns again later. (The song is 6/8, btw, not 3/4.)
    differentiating between 3/4 and 6/8 time is all about semantics, though, and more about personal perception.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eversonpoe View Post
    differentiating between 3/4 and 6/8 time is all about semantics, though, and more about personal perception.
    No, it's not simply multiplying by 2, and it's not about your feelings. This is music theory, and those two time signatures have different rhythms. If you don't know what the difference is, watch this:


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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBang View Post
    No, it's not simply multiplying by 2, and it's not about your feelings. This is music theory, and those two time signatures have different rhythms. If you don't know what the difference is, watch this:

    welp, guess my guitar teacher in high school explained that to me backwards because i've gone the last 15 years thinking it was the opposite. i think the problem is also that, when i record in protools, whether i'm doing 3/4 or 6/8 time, i always set the meter at 3/4 so my measures aren't super long (makes it easier to edit later, if necessary). sorry for throwing misinformation out there and thanks for clearing that up for me.

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    I don't know how I never came across this till tonight


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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBang View Post
    So, I made an interesting discovery today...
    Damn. For ages I've been looking out for rips of those promo edits, but never thought to look on one of those bootleg compilations - I'd always dismissed them for one reason or another. That'll teach me.
    Thanks for the info. Now to track down a copy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChipRock View Post
    Damn. For ages I've been looking out for rips of those promo edits, but never thought to look on one of those bootleg compilations - I'd always dismissed them for one reason or another. That'll teach me.
    Thanks for the info. Now to track down a copy...
    Just keep in the mind that the rips are OK, but the record player was the wrong speed (too slow). I forget exactly how much I had to speed them up (4-5%?) but you can gauge it by ear, comparing to the album version, if you have a good ear for pitch.

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    I would really love it if A Minute to Breathe would make it on the setlist one day and get the same treatment as Hurt, Eraser and Right Where it Belongs in a live setting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quietime View Post
    I would really love it if A Minute to Breathe would make it on the setlist one day and get the same treatment as Hurt, Eraser and Right Where it Belongs in a live setting.

    I'd like to see it as an opener personally

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    A Minute To Breathe is Trent's best non-NIN song. Disagree all you want, you know it's true. So fucking beautiful.

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    Girl you know it's true, ooh ooh ooh, I love you....

    Sorry. Every time someone says "you know it's true" I always break into that song lyric. EVERY TIME.

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    A Minute to Breathe is fine, but is hardly his best non-NIN track.

    Technically Missing, Ice Age, How Long or And When The Sky Was Opened are all far superior..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prettybrokenspiral View Post
    A Minute to Breathe is fine, but is hardly his best non-NIN track.

    Technically Missing, Ice Age, How Long or And When The Sky Was Opened are all far superior..

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    I'd not seen this before, but 3:25-3:42 documents Trent's seldom-mentioned flannel phase.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBang View Post
    I'd not seen this before, but 3:25-3:42 documents Trent's seldom-mentioned flannel phase.

    Is it flannel? Looks more like a cotton button down to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweeterthan View Post
    Is it flannel? Looks more like a cotton button down to me.
    Probably, but this is 1990, so it makes me giddy to imagine Trent dabbling in grunge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBang View Post
    Probably, but this is 1990, so it makes me giddy to imagine Trent dabbling in grunge.
    I like that he's playing a guitar with f holes on a metal song. Innovator!

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    Trent has dabbled in grunge before. Flannel shirt, black t shirt under and army jacket..Vedder would be proud

    https://images.vice.com/noisey/conte...%20500full.jpg

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    ^The Americans video is just a Taxi Driver reference though, he was wearing Travis Bickle's wardrobe updated to the 90s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon View Post
    My father had 2 Iowa Hawkeyes ones made for relatives from YETI Custom Shop. You can upload your own logos/images for an additional charge.

    The logo/design is laser-etched into a solid black cup, exposing the unpainted metal beneath. It's then sealed/finished in whatever process they use.
    looks like everyone's getting a custom yeti cup for xmas.

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    Current NIN site is one of the worst they've ever had. The design is okay, but it runs like shit and the mobile version is buggy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blassster View Post
    Current NIN site is one of the worst they've ever had. The design is okay, but it runs like shit and the mobile version is buggy.
    It seems like band websites in general absolute blow lately, I guess we can blame that on facebook but still. I miss innovative band sites.

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    id like to see the actual quote where he disowns it.

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