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Faceplams: Trent's music was getting kinda stale and predictable. Then he made a political album and it was the best thing he released in a decade. Year Zero 2 could be nice.
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Trent's music was getting kinda stale and predictable. Then he made a political album and it was the best thing he released in a decade. Year Zero 2 could be nice.
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Actually Alessandro/The Slip story is not new. I remember Ally told this in some interview circa 2008/09.
Josh Wink was on HLAH
I maintain, he's Gary TalpasOriginally Posted by tony.parente
bastard from blue city
I think his personality, awful taste in most things, and high esteem for 'old Trent' is more befitting John Malm.
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or maybe I'm Brian Warner and still have a bone to pick with the puppetmaster
Josh Wink was on HLAH
Nah, MM's ego is too big to hide under a persona.
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He's also a lot more articulate (well, when he wants to be anyway).
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Shut up, Rob.
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He's obviously the one, the only -- the Leo Herrara.
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Wow. This looks like a bad made-for-TV movie.
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Eh - I could care less about the movie - the fact is that it is bringing us new music.
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I don't like the trailer at all. I already stated my opinion at the soundtrack's page post.
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Im with the person asking what he thinks about TF now, all these years later and assuming he gave it another chance and how it's considered the best NIN album by many fans.
Nine Inch Nails - France
So, basically it is not the best nin albums by fans, just a very small portion of it... (let me guess... those too young for 90's)
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Seems to consistently top the fan polls I've seen, at least.
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I agree. From my experience The Fragile is almost always second place.
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One thing is very clear: All time greatests videos and singles are from TDS, trent played the whole TDS in a show. TDS is very clearly the nin masterpiece. But I always see ppl mentioning TF, just because there's 6 years between the albums, and basically they were too young and started to listen in 2000.... not only fans but many too young press writers too.
Funny or Scary, I noticed a whole new generation with the 2006 THTF single, popular because you can dance on it, and soft rebelion, easily touching young girls in goth dancing.
Yes TF is probably place 2 but you won't change place 1, not a chance.
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Well, that sounds like a very narrow-minded opinion regarding personal taste. I was born in '92 and started listening to NIN around 2009/2010, so by your logic I'm too young to appreciate TDS (spoiler: TDS is my favorite NIN album).
TDS definitely is a masterpiece — but so is TF. And I would definitely not argue with anyone whose most favorite album is TF. Totally legit and has nothing to do with being "too young".
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I see what you mean, it's ok to have a favorite album, it's another thing to say that everyone's favorite is one that clearly isn't ... or being totally wrong on the nin history that really starts in 2000, if you work at press... It's a human thing unfortunaly to focus on his own world.
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I have been a fan since PHM and TF is by far my favorite album. Don't get me wrong, TDS is an amazing album, but I don't think it has aged as well as TF. When it came out it was by far the greatest thing I had ever heard. I listened to that album so many times. I just find these days it is the album I listen to the least. I think there have been many, many better songs in the catalog since then.
I do prefer the "sound" of TDS. I think that is the best sounding album nin has released and I wish future releases would go back to that more organic vs. electronic sound. Also, that was the best time period as far as releases... best remixes, singles, videos... in that regard nin has really dropped the ball since (with the exception of And All That Could Have Been which was awesome).
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I think the Year Zero era was a great one for the fans. Yes, NIN has been lacking in the music video department but the truth is, videos are costly and really don't serve a purpose anymore, especially for a band like NIN.
The complementary remix album following each release was really fun back in the days. I'm not even gonna acknowledge Seed Eight as it feels like a throwaway release.
Look NIN, as an entity, as evolved through the years and yeah, you're gonna lose fans and win some. I've learned to just accept what NIN is now and see what Trent has up his sleeve next.
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Every band has that 1 album that is the arty, "cool" album that the casual fan doesn't get into, so when fans namedrop it as their favorite album, it shows their hardcore cred. Usually these albums gain credibility as the years go by. Mr. Bungle "Disco Volante", The Cure "Pornography", Bowie's "Low", Depeche Mode "Songs of Faith & Devotion" etc...for NIN, that album is 'The Fragile'...
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This is one of those things that really puzzles me though, the fact that TDS is the biggest selling NIN album because I would think it would be the most difficult for the casual music fan to get into. How would they even get past Mr Self Destruct??? I know the Fragile is long but it isn't so hard and intense right from the beginning.
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TDS is WAY more out-there and "artsy." Half of TF is pretty much straight forward pop structured songs. The only reason TDS sells so well is because of Closer and Hurt and even as singles those are pretty weird compared to Into the Void, We're In This Together and Starfuckers, Inc.
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because the people who bought TDS for "Closer" or 'Hurt" and got shocked when they heard the rest of the album were long gone by the time TF came along....
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Are you saying they listened to it and thought... I Do Not Want This?
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I always laugh when people call "Closer" a "dirty" song. Mostly because many of them probably haven't heard "Big Man With A Gun."
Side note: BMWAG is easily in my Top 5 NIN songs to blast when I'm driving
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My eyebrow goes up whenever people on here question BMWAG and/or place it at the bottom of their lists, or name it a least favorite,etc. Highly suspect.
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This.
I also think history will make TDS as the most important and influential NIN album, but that doesn't remove anything from TF and the relevance of picking it as a favorite over TDS.
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Is history required to choose only one record per any musician or band and put all other aside? Like, 100 years forward, will people speak of music from 1990s and occasionally mention that small dead nine inch nails project and its breakthrough the downward spiral and that's it, nada? That's horrible... If nothing else, PHM belongs in that position
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