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    Year Zero may be my favorite album right now, I absolutely love for the ammount of layers it has and how noisy all of them are, I live for the type of shit Trent is doing on Year Zero.

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    Year Zero is one of my favs. Always.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HWB View Post
    Year Zero may be my favorite album right now, I absolutely love for the ammount of layers it has and how noisy all of them are, I live for the type of shit Trent is doing on Year Zero.
    I also live for the types of shit Trent is doing.

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    Are all NIN's digital WAV downloads now 48k/24bit now? I checked nin.com but didn't see the info posted on what the digital download options were for the new releases. If I remember correctly, was the explanation for that: Fincher's team uses 48k/24bit so Trent and Atticus felt they probably didn't need any higher resolution than what Fincher's team needed?

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sequenteon View Post
    Are all NIN's digital WAV downloads now 48k/24bit now? I checked nin.com but didn't see the info posted on what the digital download options were for the new releases. If I remember correctly, was the explanation for that: Fincher's team uses 48k/24bit so Trent and Atticus felt they probably didn't need any higher resolution than what Fincher's team needed?

    Thanks!
    Yeah, they're all 24/48. Trent's official word was that 24/48 sounded better than higher resolutions. No real explanation given.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zecho View Post
    Yeah, they're all 24/48. Trent's official word was that 24/48 sounded better than higher resolutions. No real explanation given.
    I think, even for the listener, 96 could technically sound worse without the right equipment?

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    All vinyl DE downloads among other examples (Girl With the Dragon Tattoo USB, etc.) are at 96kHz despite almost all of them being recorded lower. With Teeth is the only one I recall offhand that seems to have been recorded at 96.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zecho View Post
    Yeah, they're all 24/48. Trent's official word was that 24/48 sounded better than higher resolutions. No real explanation given.
    Cool! Thanks to everyone who responded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blassster View Post
    I think, even for the listener, 96 could technically sound worse without the right equipment?
    Eh. Back in the day you needed special sound cards to play certain audio, but that hasn't been a problem in literal decades. I can't think of a reason that it would actually sound worse, but I got out of the industry years and years ago, so I'm super rusty on my facts. Maybe I'm forgetting something.

    Quote Originally Posted by seasonsinthesky View Post
    All vinyl DE downloads among other examples (Girl With the Dragon Tattoo USB, etc.) are at 96kHz despite almost all of them being recorded lower. With Teeth is the only one I recall offhand that seems to have been recorded at 96.
    This one is interesting. So, technically all of the releases since TSN have been 96kHz despite being recorded at 48. That's because they were still mastered at 96, so the finalized files were also at 96. There are no frequencies above what can be rendered at 48, but the resolution of any effect added during mastering will be at 96.

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    Most of my life Something I can never have, and Hurt haven't really spoken to me. I wasn't bothered by the songs, I just realized that despite being a massive NIN fan, these songs just didn't rip my heart out. (For some reason Another version of the truth was sufficient for that.)

    And then in 2019, I was packing things to move back to the US when I had Closure on casually, and Hurt came on, and I felt my heart ripped out when I heard the lyrics, "I will let you down." I guess it took 25 years of shit to pile on in that moment.

    And now, almost 1.5 years later...the Still version of SICNH hits way too damn hard.
    I guess I had never yet been put to that moment where the hope is lost, and it's never going to happen.
    Last edited by Magnetic; 12-05-2020 at 12:33 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magnetic View Post
    Most of my life Something I can never have, and Hurt haven't really spoken to me. I wasn't bothered by the songs, I just realized that despite being a massive NIN fan, these songs just didn't rip my heart out. (For some reason Another version of the truth was sufficient for that.)

    And then in 2019, I was packing things to move back to the US when I had Closure on casually, and Hurt came on, and I felt my heart ripped out when I heard the lyrics, "I will let you down." I guess it took 25 years of shit to pile on in that moment.

    And now, almost 1.5 years later...the Still version of SICNH hits way too damn hard.
    I guess I've never been put to that moment where the hope is lost, and it's never going to happen.
    What happens if you listen to Leaving Hope right after that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by scorpiusdiamond View Post
    Bad Witch - “FUCK US”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erneuert View Post
    What happens if you listen to Leaving Hope right after that?
    I like the song, but it doesn't overwhelm me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erneuert View Post
    Bad Witch - “FUCK US”
    I was thinking "OH FUCK", myself.

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    Hesitation Marks: Fuck Yes
    Not the Actual Events: Fuck No
    Add Violence: Fuck {loop: repeat 52}
    Bad Witch: Fuck Everything
    Ghosts V: Fuck lyrics.
    Ghosts VI: Fuck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scorpiusdiamond View Post
    Pretty Hate Machine - Fuck love
    Broken - Fuck YOU
    The Downward Spiral - Fuck life
    The Fragile - Fuck me
    With_Teeth - Fuck solipsism
    Year Zero - Fuck the government
    Ghosts I-IV - Fuck lyrics
    The Slip - Fuck isolation
    Hesitation Marks - Fuck depression
    Not The Actual Events - Fuck recovery
    Add Violence - Fuck reality
    Bad Witch - Fuck humanity
    Ghosts: Together - Fuck COVID
    Ghosts: Locusts - FUCK COVID

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    Ghosts: Locusts - WE'RE FUCKED

    All I want for Christmas is an Instrumental copy of "Big Man With A Gun"
    Last edited by Strohbie; 12-07-2020 at 08:11 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HWB View Post
    Pretty Hate Machine - Fuck love
    Broken - Fuck YOU
    The Downward Spiral - Fuck life
    The Fragile - Fuck me
    With_Teeth - Fuck solipsism
    Year Zero - Fuck the government
    Ghosts I-IV - Fuck lyrics
    The Slip - Fuck isolation
    Hesitation Marks - Fuck depression
    Not The Actual Events - Fuck recovery
    Add Violence - Fuck reality
    Bad Witch - Fuck humanity
    Ghosts: Together - Fuck COVID
    Ghosts: Locusts - FUCK COVID
    This is PERFECT.

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    After not listening to NIN (except casually during Spotify sessions) much recently, I woke up a few days ago with a melody in my head. Thinking I was clever, I messed around with it on the piano.
    Turns out it was In This Twilight.
    Soundtrack to my dreams, despite not having heard it for a while. That's good writing.

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    Okay, I am sure that six different people must have brought this up before now, but in case that isn’t true, this just blew my mind:

    Meet Your Master is essentially an expansion on the themes of Head Like a Hole and it specifically references it. This is clearly intentional. Genius. Didn’t get this until dozens of listens into it.

    Bow down in position
    Against the polished steel
    This is something different
    You'll like the way this feels
    No time for asking questions
    No time for wondering
    We've heard enough from you now
    We've heard everything
    We're going to play a new game
    You'll put on this blindfold
    You'll do what we tell you
    You'll do as you're told
    Used to be the leader
    Now comes the time to serve
    Maybe we show some mercy
    Maybe you get what you deserve

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    Bow down in position
    Against the polished steel
    This is something different
    You'll like the way this feels
    No time for asking questions
    No time for wondering
    We've heard enough from you now
    We've heard everything
    We're going to play a new game
    You'll put on this blindfold
    You'll do what we tell you
    You'll do as you're told
    Used to be the leader
    Now comes the time to serve
    Maybe we show some mercy
    Maybe you get what you deserve

    This is clearly intentional. Genius.

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    Not sure if this is the right thread for this, but being random NIN related, figured I’d share it here.

    So, I got married last night! And my wife got me a pretty cool gift. She knows how big my fandom on NIN is, but she is also not a fan of all, doesn’t care for it at all! But she managed to find a really cool NIN related gift for me, without it being totally obvious.

    There’s this artist, Melissa McCracken, she has Synesthesia, which is a condition where you can _see_ sound as colours, and she paints songs how she’s sees them.

    She has one for La Mer
    https://shop.bluegalleryonline.com/products/la-mer

    I find this absolutely incredible. It’s abstract, but mesmerizing. Here’s how it looks framed




    For her not being a NIN fan at all, and knowing nothing about them, she knocked it out of the park with this!

    The artist also has one for 1 Ghosts 1 as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fillow View Post
    Bow down in position
    Against the polished steel
    This is something different
    You'll like the way this feels
    No time for asking questions
    No time for wondering
    We've heard enough from you now
    We've heard everything
    We're going to play a new game
    You'll put on this blindfold
    You'll do what we tell you
    You'll do as you're told
    Used to be the leader
    Now comes the time to serve
    Maybe we show some mercy
    Maybe you get what you deserve

    This is clearly intentional. Genius.
    Har har. Seriously, I'm not just picking out random words. It's not just the verbiage that is connected, "bow down... get what you deserve", it is thematically connected. It is talking about those in authority, who feel they are so powerful, being forced to face the consequences for what they have done to others.

    It's clearly self-referential. Intentionally so.

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    Not sure if anyone caught this first time around but Jesus fuck that headline

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    How have I never noticed before that Trent whispers "Fuck it... Fuck it... Fuck it..." a bunch of times in the middle of Wish when it all slows down for a moment?

    Or it could be "forget", but "fuck it" feels more on-brand for Broken.
    Last edited by sketchymagpie; 12-21-2020 at 10:23 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sketchymagpie View Post
    How have I never noticed before that Trent whispers "Fuck it... Fuck it... Fuck it..." a bunch of times in the middle of Wish when it all slows down for a moment?

    Or it could be "forget", but "fuck it" feels more on-brand for Broken.
    He's actually saying "I want to, but I can't turn back, but I want to"

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    Quote Originally Posted by scorpiusdiamond View Post
    Not sure if anyone caught this first time around but Jesus fuck that headline
    “Hey pig”?

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    i have listened to nin for over 10 years and i just now came to the realization that The Day the World Went Away has no drums. heard the song a million (1,000,000) times and never really thought about this aspect until just now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vincenzomilione View Post
    i have listened to nin for over 10 years and i just now came to the realization that The Day the World Went Away has no drums. heard the song a million (1,000,000) times and never really thought about this aspect until just now.
    Which is funny b/c that's one of the first thoughts I had when I first heard in 1999. But maybe being there for the anticipation of that first song from the record before it came out led to deeper analysis.

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