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    Quote Originally Posted by Sesquipedalism View Post
    Three of my Top 20—"And All That Could Have Been," "All the Love in the World," & "The Perfect Drug"—have now been played live with some regularity, but all at shows (or straight up tours—thanks, Trent, for that Physical World idea) to which I could not get a ticket. I still have not listened to recordings because I don't want to even have a preconceived notion before I see it. And now I'm just hoping that someday I might actually have the chance to see it.

    Fingers crossed.
    They just did an amazing US tour. I am grateful they played over here in the EU, absolutely, but seeing those setlists was honestly a bit of a slap in the face. It was like we were the warm-up audience before they pulled out all the stops.

    I don't care about flashy production, I just want to see the songs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by katara View Post
    They just did an amazing US tour. I am grateful they played over here in the EU, absolutely, but seeing those setlists was honestly a bit of a slap in the face. It was like we were the warm-up audience before they pulled out all the stops.

    I don't care about flashy production, I just want to see the songs.
    I hate to even mention it because it sounds like a brag but it’s been almost two years and I still can’t believe I saw them play The Perfect Drug AND Happiness in Slavery at the same show.

    Side note, I just happened to watch This One’s on Us Today and forgot how bothered I was by Robin not standing in the middle of the projection during Piggy (Ghosts)

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    I know Trent has mentioned before that both Satellite and Everything were originally supposed to be "new tracks" for an Interscope curated "Greatest Hits" album ... but I wonder why that compilation just never came into fruition? It's not like they'd be "lol, it's cool. keep those tracks for yourself once you join another label"—right? You'd think if they were going to be creating a compilation, they'd just go ahead and release one? Wonder what happened to that.

    I think about this a lot because I would've loved to have owned "Deep" in a physical format besides having to own the Tomb Raider soundtrack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thefragile_jake View Post
    I know Trent has mentioned before that both Satellite and Everything were originally supposed to be "new tracks" for an Interscope curated "Greatest Hits" album ... but I wonder why that compilation just never came into fruition? It's not like they'd be "lol, it's cool. keep those tracks for yourself once you join another label"—right? You'd think if they were going to be creating a compilation, they'd just go ahead and release one? Wonder what happened to that.
    I'm guessing Trent never actually handed those tracks over to Interscope, so he was free to do with them as he pleased. Also, my understanding is that Trent wants (or wanted?) to be involved with creating the greatest hits album so that it's not just a randomly thrown together mix of already available material. Greatest hits albums seem kind of antiquated now that everyone can just make their own versions at home, so I'm not surprised that we haven't seen one yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRoswell View Post
    I'm guessing Trent never actually handed those tracks over to Interscope, so he was free to do with them as he pleased. Also, my understanding is that Trent wants (or wanted?) to be involved with creating the greatest hits album so that it's not just a randomly thrown together mix of already available material. Greatest hits albums seem kind of antiquated now that everyone can just make their own versions at home, so I'm not surprised that we haven't seen one yet.
    Totally. Even by 2012/2013 - greatest hits release wouldn’t have been necessary but even more so now in 2020.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thefragile_jake View Post
    I know Trent has mentioned before that both Satellite and Everything were originally supposed to be "new tracks" for an Interscope curated "Greatest Hits" album ... but I wonder why that compilation just never came into fruition? It's not like they'd be "lol, it's cool. keep those tracks for yourself once you join another label"—right? You'd think if they were going to be creating a compilation, they'd just go ahead and release one? Wonder what happened to that.

    I think about this a lot because I would've loved to have owned "Deep" in a physical format besides having to own the Tomb Raider soundtrack.
    I've also wondered about why it hasn't happened yet. It would also be an opportunity to compile some music videos onto a DVD as part of a deluxe package. I really thought that they'd jump on it last year for the 30th anniversary of the band.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thefragile_jake View Post
    I think about this a lot because I would've loved to have owned "Deep" in a physical format besides having to own the Tomb Raider soundtrack.
    Back in the day, this promo CD was sitting in the dollar bin begging to be rescued. I had to oblige.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FULLMETAL View Post
    Back in the day, this promo CD was sitting in the dollar bin begging to be rescued. I had to oblige.
    I see that on Discogs from time to time! Nice grab.

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    Sorry to hear you're going through such a rough patch. I actually have a similar experience. Last year, my 12 year relationship came to an end and it was only by listening to NIN during quarantine that I found such a strong connection with the albums, especially PHM and TDS. I saw all my anger, bitterness, self-hatred, and depression reflected in those albums. So, NIN has been a huge comfort during this time.

    I hope things start looking up for you soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRoswell View Post
    I'm guessing Trent never actually handed those tracks over to Interscope, so he was free to do with them as he pleased. Also, my understanding is that Trent wants (or wanted?) to be involved with creating the greatest hits album so that it's not just a randomly thrown together mix of already available material. Greatest hits albums seem kind of antiquated now that everyone can just make their own versions at home, so I'm not surprised that we haven't seen one yet.
    The Definitive Edition reissues must have been a carrot dangled to renegotiate their Interscope contract, and perhaps releasing Deviations 1 got them out of the Greatest-Hits clause... that said, once they've remastered Year Zero, they could do a 1989-2007 complete albums collection with Tom Baker's mastering and put it on streaming sites.

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    Do you think Trent is a Turtles fan?


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    Quote Originally Posted by katara View Post
    Do you think Trent is a Turtles fan?

    I wonder that myself, since i'm also a huge TMNT fan, but i don't think so...

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    sorry to spoil the fun honestly don't know if you were joking, but the manhattan project was a real thing.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manhat...0and%20Canada.

    The Manhattan Project was a research and development undertaking during World War II that produced the first nuclear weapons. It was led by the United States with the support of the United Kingdom and Canada.
    it is also the name of a movie from the 80s where a teenager builds an atomic bomb for a science fair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eversonpoe View Post
    honestly don't know if you were joking, but the manhattan project was a real thing.
    I was kidding around. I know virtually nothing about TMNT; just came across the game and thought it was amusing enough to share.

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    Quote Originally Posted by katara View Post
    I know virtually nothing about TMNT
    Well, they're humanoid turtles and well versed in the martial arts. They love pizza, and eat in constantly because their boss is the rat from Chuck E Cheese.

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    Quote Originally Posted by katara View Post
    I was kidding around. I know virtually nothing about TMNT; just came across the game and thought it was amusing enough to share.
    Damn good NES game.

    Plus, I'm also a TMNT fanatic as well. Cowabunga.

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    There should be a NIN show made exclusively for Youtube because there won't be a tour this year.

    You can even just have Trent with a Piano by himself really.
    Last edited by nooneimportant; 07-08-2020 at 06:03 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nooneimportant View Post
    There should be a NIN show made exclusively for Youtube because there won't be a tour this year.

    You can even just have Trent with a Piano by himself really.
    He could always do what Gary Numan is doing later this year with a drive-in concert in cars (seriously).

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    God no. I'd rather see a livestream performance than a freaking drive-in concert.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nooneimportant View Post
    There should be a NIN show made exclusively for Youtube because there won't be a tour this year.

    You can even just have Trent with a Piano by himself really.
    Still part 2, please.

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    Considering its unique part in the history of the NIN discography, do you think the live album of And All That Could Have Been would ever get a vinyl pressing or does that seem like a time in Trent's life he's not all that interested in going back to? Creating The Fragile was one thing ... touring for it was another thing all together. It holds a special place in my heart as being the actual new "release" to drop after becoming a super fan about a year and a half later.

    We're about three years removed from Trent was asked about Still on vinyl, so who knows with that one ... but I'd welcome an AATCHB pressing in a heartbeat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nooneimportant View Post
    There should be a NIN show made exclusively for Youtube because there won't be a tour this year.

    You can even just have Trent with a Piano by himself really.
    I'd be all for this, or something along the lines of the rehearsal performances they filmed for With Teeth and The Slip, but at the same time, I would be fine if this whole situation marked the end of touring for NIN altogether..

    Trent and Atticus will both be pushing 60 by the time it's safe to tour again, and I would never expect a nearly-60 year old man with 5 kids to go out and destroy himself night after night the way he's done on past tours. That's not even taking into account the whole safety issue that's now a primary concern. If the 2018 CABAI shows were the last we ever get, that would be an incredible high note to go out on. I didn't think he could match the energy he brought to the 2009 Wave Goodbye shows, but he proved everyone wrong nearly a decade later. I'd be perfectly happy if that was it, as far as touring is concerned..

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    ^^
    I would argue that the only song that qualifies as "Trent destroying himself" is March of the Pigs, and it isn't even played every night anymore. It's not Self Destruct or Fragility era anymore, so he wouldn't be jumping like madman and rolling on the floor even for some of most aggressive songs apart from MOTP (like Mr Self Destruct or HIS). It's Robin who does most of the running on stage anyway. TR is also in much better form comparing to many of his contemporaries like Al or Manson.

    What I'm saying is I don't see Trent retiring from performing live anytime soon. Even if he puts this version of the band down let's say 5 years from now, he'll still come back to scratch that touring itch with some quiet or electronic sets / scores/HTDA/whatever. This is what I believe and you can't change my mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fillow View Post
    I would argue that the only song that qualifies as "Trent destroying himself" is March of the Pigs, and it isn't even played every night anymore.
    And as much of a beloved song as that is, I'm 100% okay if MOTP gets the kind of Closer retirement treatment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prettybrokenspiral View Post
    Trent and Atticus will both be pushing 60 by the time it's safe to tour again
    Right? Let's just push them off to the old-folks home and be done with those geezers. (N.B. Atticus is 52 this year.)

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    I really want to meet TR someday, look at him and just say “Cocksucking chicken wing. Explain.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prettybrokenspiral View Post
    I'd be all for this, or something along the lines of the rehearsal performances they filmed for With Teeth and The Slip, but at the same time, I would be fine if this whole situation marked the end of touring for NIN altogether..

    Trent and Atticus will both be pushing 60 by the time it's safe to tour again, and I would never expect a nearly-60 year old man with 5 kids to go out and destroy himself night after night the way he's done on past tours. That's not even taking into account the whole safety issue that's now a primary concern. If the 2018 CABAI shows were the last we ever get, that would be an incredible high note to go out on. I didn't think he could match the energy he brought to the 2009 Wave Goodbye shows, but he proved everyone wrong nearly a decade later. I'd be perfectly happy if that was it, as far as touring is concerned..
    I've seen The Residents perform live twice and they had members who were nearing 70 years old at the time. They still killed it. It doesn't matter what age you are, if you can still go then you can still go.
    Last edited by nooneimportant; 07-10-2020 at 06:25 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nooneimportant View Post
    I've seen The Residents perform live twice and they had members who were nearing 70 years old at the time. They still killed it. It doesn't matter what age you are, if you can still go then you can still go.
    Paul McCartney regularly plays Helter Skelter live and blows the roof off the venue. He turned 78 this year.

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    Thanks to a 1990 concert review in the "Happiness in Heresy" thread, I just learned about three former members of Nine Inch Nails live show that I'd somehow never heard of. Nick Rushe, David Haymes, & Lee Mars—all keyboardists during 1990. I had literally never heard of any of these people and, at first, chuckled, because I thought a poorly written review had just invented a person. Though not too much credit to the review—they did call the poor guy "Mick" Rushe.

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    Together may be one of the best ambient albums I have ever heard.

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