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    Honestly a little taken aback from the early reviews so far. I figured there would be too much temptation and opportunity for snarky "Chinese Democracy" style bashing given the time and hype around the album. But so far everything is positive and even exemplary.

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    Loudwire on 7empest:

    "This is the best thing Adam Jones has ever recorded. Itís beyond epic. Iím absolutely blown away and baffled by this 20-minute monster. No other band could do this. Not a chance."


    That's some rather strong words there buddy. You better be able to back that shit up! My hype train just transitioned into a hype warp drive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erneuert View Post
    Hmm, isn’t CC Trip an instrumental as well?

    According to one of the Metal Injection reviewers (who also did an AMA on Reddit), yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonic_discord View Post
    According to one of the Metal Injection reviewers (who also did an AMA on Reddit), yes.
    Hmmm... if thatís the case, why isnít that a bonus track also?

    Iím seeing Litanie Contre La Peur, Legion Inoculant and Mockingbeat as three download only bonus tracks (instrumentals).

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    From the Metal Injection Review, about interlude 'Legion Inoculant':

    "Tool's manager, who was present for the listening sessions, noted that all the ambient synths were created by Danny Carey live only once and then he never saved those audio files, so if they play these songs live, he would recreate it in a different way each night."

    I definitely smiled when I read this, God bless the man DC! Also, re: 'Chocolate Chip Trip' These guys are funny!

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    I’m pretty fucking excited and I can’t wait to hear 7empest

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrokenSpiral View Post
    Iím pretty fucking excited and I canít wait to hear 7empest
    Basically two weeks! Still strange to think about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demogorgon View Post
    To be honest, the music to Lost Keys is solid. If they took out the little hospital skit, i'd probably listen to it as an instrumental track all the time.
    Completely agreed!

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    So, the first tracklisting (from Merch Bar) was totally wack...cool.

    I gotta NOT read into or even accidentally catch written song descriptions before hearing them myself. I hate that shit with a passion. So I may duck outta here till the release or leak.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erneuert View Post
    Hmmm... if that’s the case, why isn’t that a bonus track also?

    I’m seeing Litanie Contre La Peur, Legion Inoculant and Mockingbeat as three download only bonus tracks (instrumentals).
    Answering my own question:

    https://loudwire.com/tool-fear-inocu...-song-details/

    The seventh entry of Fear Inoculum is titled “Culling Voices” and it precedes a giant Danny Carey drum feast called “Chocolate Chip Trip.” Though “Chocolate Chip Trip” isn’t a conventional Tool song, the band does not consider it a segue.

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    for people still looking to pre-order, SRC Vinyl has had it up this whole time. guess i'm the only person signed up for their mailing list?

    https://www.srcvinyl.com/tool-fear-i...deluxe-cd.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amaro View Post
    Worse yet, the execution/performance of the final climax (10:02) -with all instruments playing the syncopation together- at times just sounds sloppy to my ears. I don't know what it is--the bass guitar settings/effects and/or the production of the drums, but it sounds muddy on certain strokes. I've tried and tried -including not listening too closely- and I just can't hear it as *tight* as I know these guys to be.
    I love the last minute or so of "Fear Inoculum". To me, it sounds like Danny and Adam are purposefully trying to play the riff/scale/etc. semi-unique each time. Each musician is on their own journey while still being conscious of playing "around" each other. The song feels like it's about to go off the rails, increasing the anticipation and the payoff of the final 20 seconds where it comes together.

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    I notice Amazon, Barnes & Noble, Target etc are already sold out on the CD version of this album. You can't even pre-order it anymore....So much for Trents theory that nobody buys CDs anymore

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    Reading the reviews it seems like itís going to be 20,000 Days, effectively killing my interest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helpmeiaminhell View Post
    I notice Amazon, Barnes & Noble, Target etc are already sold out on the CD version of this album. You can't even pre-order it anymore....So much for Trents theory that nobody buys CDs anymore
    Check indie record stores and maybe bullmoose.com. I ordered mine from my indie store because I waited too long for Amazon.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Swykk View Post
    Reading the reviews it seems like it’s going to be 20,000 Days, effectively killing my interest.
    Why form your opinion based on someone else's recollection of their experience after hearing it once? Maybe wait until you hear it for yourself (maybe even a couple of times?) and then form your own opinion based on your own experience?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon View Post
    I love the last minute or so of "Fear Inoculum". To me, it sounds like Danny and Adam are purposefully trying to play the riff/scale/etc. semi-unique each time. Each musician is on their own journey while still being conscious of playing "around" each other. The song feels like it's about to go off the rails, increasing the anticipation and the payoff of the final 20 seconds where it comes together.
    Thank you for sharing your take. Good to hear differing opinions on the song and this specific area of the song, which I've only felt torn on.

    Maybe I was listening to the song too intently at first and I need to back away much more than I am presently, and resume listening when I have the rest of the album to experience. As I had said before, while I don't love the song, I may be able to at least make better sense of it with the whole picture that the album will paint.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonic_discord View Post
    Why form your opinion based on someone else's recollection of their experience after hearing it once? Maybe wait until you hear it for yourself (maybe even a couple of times?) and then form your own opinion based on your own experience?
    Just reading that the songs are super long again isn’t so much that I need to wait to hear it. I’ve heard it before. I recognize it. It was the masturbatory overkill found on 10,000 Days.

    I listened to the title track and it sounded like, you guessed it, 10,000 Days.

    No thanks. I’m good. Maybe I’ll check out YouTube at some point and like 10,000 Days there’ll be 2 good songs (Vicarious, Jambi).
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsChrisRoss View Post
    Check indie record stores and maybe bullmoose.com. I ordered mine from my indie store because I waited too long for Amazon.

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    Bullmoose is out. The following stores still have preorders available at time of posting:

    BAM! (Books-a-Million)
    ImportCDs
    SRCVinyl

    Import Music Warehouse

    I have used Books-a-million many times for book orders and never had an issue. Never ordered music through them however. They appear to be the last major retailer with preorders though. I am unfamiliar with the other sites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helpmeiaminhell View Post
    So much for Trents theory that nobody buys CDs anymore
    Not really. I would imagine a lot of people who would never buy cds are buying this because it is the only format available of an album thats been anticipated for over a decade. I considered buying one even though I would never buy a CD these days, but I managed to come to my senses before dropping the $50.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swykk View Post
    Just reading that the songs are super long again isn’t so much that I need to wait to hear it. I’ve heard it before. I recognize it. It was the masturbatory overkill found on 10,000 Days.

    I listened to the title track and it sounded like, you guessed it, 10,000 Days.

    No thanks. I’m good. Maybe I’ll check out YouTube at some point and like 10,000 Days there’ll be 2 good songs (Vicarious, Jambi).
    You don't even like Rosetta Stoned? I don't even know what to say... Well, to each their own. I hope you enjoy it more than you expect to, though!

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    I still buy cds when i can, but buying super deluxe gimmicky stuff is few and far between. It'll be weird for me if this is the first Tool release i only buy on digital, but, i guess i'm okay with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonic_discord View Post
    You don't even like Rosetta Stoned? I don't even know what to say... Well, to each their own. I hope you enjoy it more than you expect to, though!
    The Pot would be good (it has good parts) if it were 3-4 minutes shorter.

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    I wonder how many limited editions Sony-RCA had produced? It appears demand is taking out preorder stock now. I am also curious if the limited edition truly is limited or if they will have additonal production runs once current preorder allotments that sold out are fullfilled, or will there just be a regular CD edition (jewelcase, digipak) to follow? I know 10K Days did not get a jewelcase, but the spectacle stereoscopic, the only edition ever produced, was never labeled as a limited edition. At any rate, Fear Inoculum may end up among the highest grossing physical releases of this year. I couldn't guess if it will move one million units or go platinum, but it has a shot if all physical units sell out plus high digital sales. That would be pretty phenomenal for a band a decade or more removed from their last album. Probably want to jump on vinyl preorders pretty fast when they become available.
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    Quote Originally Posted by imail724 View Post
    Not really. I would imagine a lot of people who would never buy cds are buying this because it is the only format available of an album thats been anticipated for over a decade. I considered buying one even though I would never buy a CD these days, but I managed to come to my senses before dropping the $50.
    THIS. Is the main reason why I ordered one. I donít do CDs anymore because of my extensive vinyl collection but since this is the only format (for now....) I went for it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Swykk View Post
    Just reading that the songs are super long again isn’t so much that I need to wait to hear it. I’ve heard it before. I recognize it. It was the masturbatory overkill found on 10,000 Days.

    I listened to the title track and it sounded like, you guessed it, 10,000 Days.

    No thanks. I’m good. Maybe I’ll check out YouTube at some point and like 10,000 Days there’ll be 2 good songs (Vicarious, Jambi).
    That's so weird because 10,000 days is by FAR my favorite tool album.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imail724 View Post
    Not really. I would imagine a lot of people who would never buy cds are buying this because it is the only format available of an album thats been anticipated for over a decade. I considered buying one even though I would never buy a CD these days, but I managed to come to my senses before dropping the $50.
    I still buy CDs and most of my music friends still buy CDs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tony.parente View Post
    That's so weird because 10,000 days is by FAR my favorite tool album.
    Same here. The hype is real for this one after what Iíve been reading.

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    I’m a Lateralus guy. Aenima being a close second.

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    Lateralus is definitely my favorite. Being someone who enjoys things that are big and proggy and arty, I'm more a fan of Aenima and later, but the music now being on streaming has made me spend more time than usual with Opiate and Undertow, and I love those albums, too. Pretty easy to please here.

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    AEnima is probably my favorite, but i will say that seeing the songs from Opiate performed live back in 2003 was an experience that knocks everything else out of the water. "Cold and Ugly" live was pure fire, and when "Opiate" itself kicked in, you couldn't smell anything but pot and sweat in the arena for the rest of the night.

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