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    Quote Originally Posted by orson thrust View Post
    Melvins have some good stuff out there. Problem is, wading through to find it all takes a long fucking time.
    They've put out a ton of stuff, but it's worth it. I love the Melvins a lot. More than Tool even. Don't get me wrong, I like Tool, but the Melvins keep me more actively engaged as they never stop touring or putting out new music.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonic_discord View Post
    Fuck, that really sucks. I am sorry that happened to you. Tool's fan club is such horse shit, they desperately need to get their shit together. They should have at least given you the closest floor ticket that wasn't VIP since the regular sale hasn't happened yet.

    EDIT: Wow, now that I've looked, it seems to have happened to a TON of people.
    Thanks. I saw on Facebook or Reddit that some people got emails offering to sell them another package so I sent an email with a complaint (because I bought Gold all of the other packages were gone and now I was out of luck). Some days passed then I got an email offering to let me buy "P1" at face value. Some others got something similar at various venues. No one knew what P1 was but speculation was ticketmaster platinum seats. I responded yes I was interested but wanted to know what seats they were and the price. I was told they don't know, that ticketmaster would call me.

    A few hours later (today), I get an email that bronze tickets became available and if I was interested in those she would send me a link to buy it, so I did. She also refunded my VIP membership "as a thank you for your patience through all of this." I assume that means my membership is not actually cancelled just that I don't have to pay for it this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by otnavuskire View Post
    They've put out a ton of stuff, but it's worth it. I love the Melvins a lot. More than Tool even. Don't get me wrong, I like Tool, but the Melvins keep me more actively engaged as they never stop touring or putting out new music.
    Melvins are one of those bands where the frontman has an attitude problem that winds up overshadowing the music, for me at least.

    I've seen them a few times. Again, they aren't awful or anything.
    But King Buzzo seems to think that his band is/should be more important than Nirvana.
    The more interviews he does, the less I like his act.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elevenism View Post
    But King Buzzo seems to think that his band is/should be more important than Nirvana.
    He definitely hasn't said that. He's straight up said he's perfectly satisfied with their level of success. It's a pretty rare thing that a band can be that productive and make a living for that long. But yes, he's very outspoken and is aware of and proud of how many bands the Melvins influenced. And his outspokenness rubs a lot of people the wrong way, understandably.

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    Quote Originally Posted by otnavuskire View Post
    He definitely hasn't said that. He's straight up said he's perfectly satisfied with their level of success. It's a pretty rare thing that a band can be that productive and make a living for that long. But yes, he's very outspoken and is aware of and proud of how many bands the Melvins influenced. And his outspokenness rubs a lot of people the wrong way, understandably.
    I think he did say that if Kurt Cobain had been an ugly guy, Nirvana would not had been as popular. It seems to me that Buzz was more bitter back in the day, but he has mellowed out now. @elevenism you should give ‘em a chance, Lysol is the heaviest album recorded by any band, and A Senile Animal is a masterpiece as well. Their newer output is not as interesting, but they have interesting stuff in their back catalog. Listen to Stoner Witch, Pigs of the Roman Empire, Bullhead, Houdini, The Maggot, Eggnog, all good stuff. There’s a reason why they opened for NIN and Tool.

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    When did the Melvins open up for NIN?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krazy View Post
    When did the Melvins open up for NIN?
    Aenima tour, 1998. Melvins were promoting Honky. Buzz Osborne played at the Coachella stop of the tour, during Spasm and You Lied:



    Edit: sorry @Krazy , for some reason I read Tool! Melvins opened during the Downward Spiral tour, Jan-Feb of 1995.
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    Sorry for the double post. Now that we are speaking of the subject, some NIN and Tool spotting from the Melvins' book "Smoke Pot and Kill Your Parents" (@elevenism this bit talks about the set you saw of the Melvins in Dallas, opening up for NIN)

    Quote Originally Posted by "Smoke Pot and Kill Your Parents Book" View Post
    The Kiss-fans didn't really care about the Melvins, there was neither frenetic applause nor ennervated boos: They clapped kindly and waited patiently for the main band. Osborne: "Despite all of that Kiss were the nicest guys. They were a totally cool band to open for. (...) Complete gentlemen to us, not only them but also their crew. (...) The biggest bands we've ever played with like Nine Inch Nails, Kiss, Rush, were the coolest bands. The nicest bands you would ever want to play with, you know. The bands we have the most problem with are these tiny little fuck off bands. Who have the biggest attitudes in the world.

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    The Melvins continued - like always when they don't happen to be in a studio for recording - to tour intensively, amongst others with commercially more successful bands like Tool, Nine Inch Nails, Rush, and White Zombie. Tom Hazelmyer, the boss of Amphetamine Reptile Records, say: "The Melvins have always been a band's band and people started offering them all of these stadium tours around that time. I don't think Rob Zombie cared that the Melvins knew Nirvana -he was a fan of the band, period. If you look at all of those tours they did, them getting asked out was due more to a headliner thinking those guys were the shit than a headliner thinking that the Melvins were going to bring the audience. Because they'd usually take the opportunity to fuck with people.

    The fans of Tool and Nine Inch Nails were by trend younger than the Kiss-fans and didn't really hold back that they couldn't get what the Melvins were doing and that they wanted them to leave the stage as soon as possible for the main act. Osborne: "When your put yourself in the position of opening for a band when the audience isn't interested in hearing what you're doing, it doesn't take a whole lot of prodding for them to go crazy. I mean, put 20,000 people in a room and how many of them will actually like what we're doing? I wasn't devastated by that at all - it really didn't mean a lot to me

    Quite the contrary: It's one of the Melvins' characteristics to offend sensibilities and see how far they can go. Joe Preston: "Buzz really enjoyed playing to a hostile audience, a total stacked deck. I don't think people dislike them as much as they used to, so I get the feeling that now Buzz has to try harder to piss people off.

    Deutrom describes another attribute of the Melvins very well, namely doing exactly those things that are NOT expected - and maybe anger a part of the recipients: "Anybody who has seen the Melvins will tell you there's a point where they're going to test your attention span, even to die hard fans. Prick (the album) would be a primer example of that - things you can't really listen to. There's a certain amount of arrogance and pride in that, and of course I took part happily in that type of attitude when I was in the band. Some of the more notorious examples of that are when we played in Dallas with Nine Inch Nails and we opened the set with a 9+ minute long instrumental. Nine Inch Nails fans don't want to hear that stuff, so the audience melted down and ripped up the seats in this minor league hockey arena and threw them at us". Deutrom further. "Of course there's a historical precedent to all of this that goes back to Paganini intentionally breaking three strings on his violin. But with the Melvins, it's all an extension of Buzz's personality and it's derived from a punk rock ethic. The old stand-by was to just let the feedback drone on for 15 minutes. It was a no-brainer. And if you loved the band, then you probably looked forward to moments like that, just to see how everyone around you would react. It's as much of a trademark for the Melvins as Gene Simmons blowing fire is for Kiss".
    I don't know, man. I love the Melvins. This is a photo of Buzz with me before a show from the "Nude With Boots" tour, 13 years (!) ago.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cahernandez View Post
    I think he did say that if Kurt Cobain had been an ugly guy, Nirvana would not had been as popular. It seems to me that Buzz was more bitter back in the day, but he has mellowed out now. @elevenism you should give ‘em a chance, Lysol is the heaviest album recorded by any band, and A Senile Animal is a masterpiece as well. Their newer output is not as interesting, but they have interesting stuff in their back catalog. Listen to Stoner Witch, Pigs of the Roman Empire, Bullhead, Houdini, The Maggot, Eggnog, all good stuff. There’s a reason why they opened for NIN and Tool.
    "At the stake" from Stoner Witch is the standout melvins track for me. When the chorus 1 and 2 hit (second may be better with the drum fills), it is so fucking brutal and satisfying. First time i heard it many years back, i wanted to puke.

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    So I caved and I bought a blanket front the TOOL store and I love it. I got the larger size and although I haven’t had a chance to use it yet (it came today) it feels great. See below:




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    Quote Originally Posted by NotoriousTIMP View Post
    I saw Tenacious D open up for TOOL in ‘98 and the crowd was so rude to them that Maynard came out on stage and basically told everyone that he hand picked TD to open and if anyone had a problem then they could fuck off out of the arena.
    Wow, I never knew they opened for them. That's honestly pretty awesome that they did!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krazy View Post
    When did the Melvins open up for NIN?
    You don't know about the legendary bit where angry NIN fans at a dallas show pulled up the floor and threw it at Melvins, unwittingly exposing hockey ice that had only been halfheartedly covered, leading into people moshing on ice, during Trent's "Attitude Era?"
    I BELIEVE it was '94.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elevenism View Post
    You don't know about the legendary bit where angry NIN fans at a dallas show pulled up the floor and threw it at Melvins, unwittingly exposing hockey ice that had only been halfheartedly covered, leading into people moshing on ice, during Trent's "Attitude Era?"
    I BELIEVE it was '94.
    No, can’t say I’ve ever came across that story. Only recall Hole, the circus, and Manson as openers during the TDS arena tour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krazy View Post
    No, can’t say I’ve ever came across that story. Only recall Hole, the circus, and Manson as openers during the TDS arena tour.
    Oh, wow dude. It was hilarious. It was in feb of 95, and was my second NIN show.
    I was there I've told the story a few times around here.
    The show was at the "fair park colosseum," aka the Dog Show Building. There had been a run of SOMETHING "on ice'" the week before. They just covered up the ice with THIN particle board.
    Long story short, the kids had pulled up the wood before the fucking house lights went off. They were using big pieces of it to fling people like WAY up in the air, and then catching them.
    When Melvins came out, the people in GA (aka the majority of people there) had torn the wood to bits and began throwing it at Buzzo and co. To their credit, they didn't leave the stage. Rather, they improvised a tune about people throwing shit at him.

    Trent had to come out and threaten to cancel the NIN set if anymore shit was thrown.
    A few months later, Melvins came out to the SAME broke dick venue to open for tool, and king buzz had a big ass chip on his shoulder. And we knocked it off for him. We booed them off of the stage.
    It was all a big fucking joke, really, ESPECIALLY the Tool bit.


    Edit: there was a TDS ARENA tour?
    I saw them on October 29 1994, and February 11 1995. It was called FDTS.
    I saw Mason and Jim Rose and Melvins as openers, between the two, but neither of those shows were at any kind of arena.
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    Quote Originally Posted by elevenism View Post
    Edit: there was a TDS ARENA tour?
    I saw them on October 29 1994, and February 11 1995. It was called FDTS.
    I saw Mason and Jim Rose and Melvins as openers, between the two, but neither of those shows were at any kind of arena.
    Yeah, the FDTS tour venues was mostly arenas if you look at nintourhistory. My first NIN concert was at the Madison, WI arena. The Kohl Center had yet to be built. This arena is actually still there and has been slightly upgraded. Seen Slipknot and APC there in recent years.

    http://nintourhistory.com/tour.php?tourid=12

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krazy View Post
    Yeah, the FDTS tour venues was mostly arenas if you look at nintourhistory. My first NIN concert was at the Madison, WI arena. The Kohl Center had yet to be built. This arena is actually still there and has been slightly upgraded. Seen Slipknot and APC there in recent years.

    http://nintourhistory.com/tour.php?tourid=12
    That's a trip!

    The Dallas FTDS shows were at the Texas state fair colosseum, aka the Dog Show Building.

    It's a rectangular building, with seats on each side, facing EACH OTHER, and NOT the stage, because it was built for people to watch the dog action on the floor. The floor was the GA.

    I saw both NIN and Tool there a couple of times, and I THINK A Perfect Circle?
    My mind is going. I can feel it

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