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    Quote Originally Posted by tony.parente View Post
    Imagine tool being one of if not your favorite band ever
    Imagine tool going on tour
    Imagine tool going on tour in support of their new album (!)
    Imagine putting tickets on sale and there being an option for tickets that include a meet and greet with members of tool (!)
    Imagine those tickets being $500 each
    Imagine spending that money with no regrets because you love tool that much
    Imagine getting those tickets and the rest of the show selling out in hours and being on the top of the world
    Imagine 2 weeks later getting an email from tool telling you they sold you the tickets on accident and to GFY
    Imagine now being without tickets to the show because it sold out and there being no options other than buying from the secondary market because tool didn't give you any other options

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    Real Tool fans are used to getting fucked.


    /s. Kind of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cdm View Post
    In addition, you email those that bought tickets without an account and require them to buy a membership if they want to keep their tickets.
    This. Obviously, I would have gladly bought a $50 membership if I knew it was required to buy an $1100 package. The word on the street the day before they went on sale was that they had opened VIP tickets up the public, so I didn't bother getting a membership. If it was their fuckup, which it was, I should be allowed to purchase a membership in order to retain my tickets.

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    I wonder if the "band" even knows about this, or is it completely in the hands of their management.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fillow View Post
    I wonder if the "band" even knows about this, or is it completely in the hands of their management.
    I feel like they would have had to sign off on the decision to recall tickets.

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    I realize Amazon isn't the most poplar music service (but that's the one I use), but thought I would mention FI (album, not single, which remains) was apparently moved today from Prime Music (included with Prime) to Prime Unlimited (extra fee per month). So, now I am debating paying for Unlimited (also because the HD versions are on unlimited). Not having previously been into HD formats, is the quality noticeable with just standard consumer type equipment (speakers/headphones). If not, any tips for how to get the most out of them without spending a ton? Thanks.

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    Vinyl bootlegs are incoming already. Wtf were they thinking letting bootleggers get to this before a legitimate pressing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toadflax View Post
    Sooo...

    It’s come to our attention that a small number of Tool Army Exclusive VIP Packages were purchased by non-Tool Army Members and your order has been identified as one of these orders.

    We take the integrity of the membership offering seriously and as a result, your order will be cancelled and the inventory will be made available for existing Tool Army members.

    You will receive a full refund for your purchase and all applicable fees. You should see this refund in the next few days.

    If you believe that your order was flagged incorrectly - please reach out to VIP@toolband.com by Friday September 20th at 4PM PST with the following information:

    Full name associated with your Tool Army membership
    Tool Army username
    Email address connected to your Tool Army membership
    - Tool Army
    Fuck Tool. Seriously. This is some bullshit. You fucked up, honor your fuck up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neorev View Post
    Fuck Tool. Seriously. This is some bullshit. You fucked up, honor your fuck up.
    Why? If some people shared the presale link, the band had no reason to honor that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by imail724 View Post
    Vinyl bootlegs are incoming already. Wtf were they thinking letting bootleggers get to this before a legitimate pressing?

    Because they don’t give a shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gerbil View Post
    Why? If some people shared the presale link, the band had no reason to honor that.


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    They shouldn’t have waited two weeks for this, like Tony P said. If it would’ve been dealt with prior to public sales for the shows I think most people would’ve understood.

    Seriously. Two fucking weeks. They (management) don’t want to refund TA memberships so this is what they decided to do.

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    When your fan club is called "army", members and general population are naturally cannon fodder...

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    FYI:

    A new “dynamic barcode” mobile-only ticketing system is raising questions of consumer freedom and discrimination as it is prepped for a trial in at least three venues using Ticketmaster as their ticketing provider.
    Outlined on a Ticketmaster website page touting “The Newest Way to Use Your Mobile Ticket,” the new system features a barcode that changes in 15 second intervals. This is designed to remove the ability of any consumer to transfer their ticket through any system that isn’t Ticketmaster.


    Which results in:
    Scores of frustrated fans — many whom had forked out hundreds of dollars — were denied access to a sold-out Black Keys show at the Wiltern Theatre Thursday night in Koreatown because their tickets were fake.

    https://www.ticketnews.com/2019/03/d...umer-concerns/

    https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2019...-are-no-bueno/

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealNs1 View Post
    FYI:

    A new “dynamic barcode” mobile-only ticketing system is raising questions of consumer freedom and discrimination as it is prepped for a trial in at least three venues using Ticketmaster as their ticketing provider.
    Outlined on a Ticketmaster website page touting “The Newest Way to Use Your Mobile Ticket,” the new system features a barcode that changes in 15 second intervals. This is designed to remove the ability of any consumer to transfer their ticket through any system that isn’t Ticketmaster.


    Which results in:
    Scores of frustrated fans — many whom had forked out hundreds of dollars — were denied access to a sold-out Black Keys show at the Wiltern Theatre Thursday night in Koreatown because their tickets were fake.

    https://www.ticketnews.com/2019/03/d...umer-concerns/

    https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2019...-are-no-bueno/
    Well this is a awful fucking idea


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    I was thinking: So a scalper sells that barcode to someone. Fifteen seconds later they sell that barcode to someone. Repeat until they get the fuck beat out of them by someone who got scammed.

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    How is Ticketmaster still cornering this market? They’re awful.


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    Quote Originally Posted by gerbil View Post
    How is Ticketmaster still cornering this market? They’re awful.


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    Because AXS is no better

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    Why are there two tool threads?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DVYDRNS View Post
    Why are there two tool threads?
    Mitosis

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    Quote Originally Posted by DVYDRNS View Post
    Why are there two tool threads?
    One was created for FI spoilers. If we had a vote, I’d say merge the two together if possible at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealNs1 View Post
    Because AXS is no better
    Actually—this really grinds my gears—Stubhub and similar companies are a parasite industry feeding off the excesses of Ticketmaster. It takes away any incentive for Ticketmaster to improve because no one has to compete directly with them. Why bother when you can jump into the secondhand ticket market with virtually no overhead?

    Same thing with third party hotel and vacation booking companies. Why jump into the hotel business—in fact, why should hotels invest heavily in their existing hotels—if you can resell rooms and tickets to vacation spots with no overhead. You don’t have to maintain the rooms or provide facilities.

    Anyway.

    Fear Inoculum is neat and I love the Opiate and Undertow remasters.




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    Quote Originally Posted by gerbil View Post
    Actually—this really grinds my gears—Stubhub and similar companies are a parasite industry feeding off the excesses of Ticketmaster. It takes away any incentive for Ticketmaster to improve because no one has to compete directly with them. Why bother when you can jump into the secondhand ticket market with virtually no overhead?
    This is probably a discussion for another thread but Ticketmaster is terrible because they are part of a parent corp, Live Nation, that controls virtually every aspect of the live entertainment business. This muscles out competition and gives bands no choice with who they use for booking, where they play, who they use for ticketing, etc. The existence of Stubhub and similar has little to no bearing on how awful Ticketmaster is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DVYDRNS View Post
    Why are there two tool threads?
    4 years ago:
    Quote Originally Posted by PhoenixML View Post
    Let's make a deal : when we have a real confirmation of a new album, we'll start a new thread. In the meantime, this thread will always be about speculations of a new album.

    So whenever you see this topic bumped, you know it's not about the real deal.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DVYDRNS View Post
    Why are there two tool threads?
    One's a general thread, and one's an album thread. I think that's pretty clearly demarcated in the titles. It's not uncommon on this forum that an album from a band gets its own thread.

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    Especially in this case. An album 13 years in the making certainly deserves its own thread.

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    Generally curious- Other than NIN (in an entirely separate sub forum, who this fan forum is dedicated to), what other band has had its own album thread?

    Im fine with either/or, but the hype has died down (ie posts) quite a bit and it’s no longer a spoiler-free zone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krazy View Post
    Generally curious- Other than NIN (in an entirely separate sub forum, who this fan forum is dedicated to), what other band has had its own album thread?

    Im fine with either/or, but the hype has died down (ie posts) quite a bit and it’s no longer a spoiler-free zone.
    For what it's worth, prior to this split Maynard had FOUR threads himself (APC, Puscifer, Tool, and the short-lived "everything Maynard" thread meant for convos that were more about him / comparing his projects than focusing on one specific band).

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    Tool is out here rescinding VIP ticket packages to non-Tool-Army members and here I am, an existing tool-Army member, who signed up properly beforehand. And although I was able to nab a VIP ticket to Barclays Center ( which I am very happy/excited/grateful for) I still haven't received my Tool-Army membership bundle. Whoever is in charge of this "Tool-Army" crap seem to be very concerned with us (the loyal fanbase) keeping our ends of the bargain but not very concerned keeping up with with their ends of the bargain and making good on what was promised to us by joining.
    Common guys, wheres my VIP package? Jesus, I love Tool (great band, musicianship, and music) but damn do these guys suck at everything else involved with the business aspect of their products and seem very out of touch with their fans. I get it when they make music, they owe us nothing and should be making what they want and not spooning feeding us what we want, but when it comes to things like this I feel they just don't give a shit about their fans. They should really be making more of an effort to do right by us. At this point, I'd be shocked if I even got the package with how things are run over there. (and I'm not just talking about poor old me and not getting my bundle, its the ticket rescinding, 13 year album wait, no vinyl release plans yet, the dated website which seems to not have been updated in years...just to name a few things)
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    Once they had a quilt (that looked terrible) that they were selling at a ridiculous price I knew they were full of shit about selling "high quality stuff". Adam repeats himself over and over again about stuff they would like/buy, and then they sell that bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krazy View Post
    Generally curious- Other than NIN (in an entirely separate sub forum, who this fan forum is dedicated to), what other band has had its own album thread?

    Im fine with either/or, but the hype has died down (ie posts) quite a bit and it’s no longer a spoiler-free zone.
    I even recall a Tool Hotline and a Tool sub section here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davemuzik85 View Post
    Tool is out here rescinding VIP ticket packages to non-Tool-Army members and here I am, an existing tool-Army member, who signed up properly beforehand. And although I was able to nab a VIP ticket to Barclays Center ( which I am very happy/excited/grateful for) I still haven't received my Tool-Army membership bundle. Whoever is in charge of this "Tool-Army" crap seem to be very concerned with us (the loyal fanbase) keeping our ends of the bargain but not very concerned keeping up with with their ends of the bargain and making good on what was promised to us by joining.
    Common guys, wheres my VIP package? Jesus, I love Tool (great band, musicianship, and music) but damn do these guys suck at everything else involved with the business aspect of their products and seem very out of touch with their fans. I get it when they make music, they owe us nothing and should be making what they want and not spooning feeding us what we want, but when it comes to things like this I feel they just don't give a shit about their fans. They should really be making more of an effort to do right by us. At this point, I'd be shocked if I even got the package with how things are run over there. (and I'm not just talking about poor old me and not getting my bundle, its the ticket rescinding, 13 year album wait, no vinyl release plans yet, the dated website which seems to not have been updated in years...just to name a few things)
    I find all this behaviour reflected in the fact that their discography is tiny in comparison to many other bands, yet as soon as they put their stuff on a streaming platform pretty much every album cover somehow managed to be either incorrect or the wrong way around or improperly scanned: Opiate: fine, but not the original cover image. Undertow: image reversed horizontally. Ænima: poorly scanned. Salival: ? Lateralus: Promo image used instead of actual album cover. 10,000 Days: Probably the closest one that was correct.

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