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    TooL’s got less than 99 songs and Problem 8 ain’t one. Hit me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by armogi View Post
    7 songs --> problem 8
    Doesn’t exist. And neither does that stupid thing where people merged Wings for Marie, 10,000 Days, and Viginti Tres to make a “secret song.” That’s such a load of horse shit. I can’t BELIEVE people think that’s a thing the band planned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pulse View Post
    The instrumentation was most likely tracked on 2" studio tape as revealed in this Instagram post. Of course that doesn't answer if MJK's vocals were also analogue. Barresi could have mixed digital source tracks of the vocals into the final mix / studio tape that was taken to Bob Ludwig. But then again, MJK could have also tracked his final vocals on tape for Barresi as well. As far as I know, there has not been any official literature on the engineering side for the new album other than a few Instagram posts and the Ludwig information. I am sure there will be enough interest that the recording process and engineering details will come out in some publication out like it did for the previous albums.
    There are credits on the title track online that seem to indicate Mat Mitchell did additional production, so it's likely they tracked the basic backing tracks all-analogue with Barresi, then dumped the tapes into Pro Tools, had Maynard do his overdubs via e-mail, tracked guitars into more Pro Tools through more analogue gear and delivered the final mix to analogue tape. So pretty close to all-tape except for some guitars and vocals, I'm guessing.

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    Dumbest has to be Blair’s “curveball”. Love the post from a couple years ago (Fourtheye?) when some fan asked Adam during a VIP session about it, and apparently Adam had no clue what the person was talking about and said “that sounds like something that Blair would make up”.

    Its been years with this stuff, akin to asking Trent about Tapeworm at this point. Need to let it go.

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    What was the puzzle that the four photos in 10,000 days revealed?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Krazy View Post
    Dumbest has to be Blair’s “curveball”. Love the post from a couple years ago (Fourtheye?) when some fan asked Adam during a VIP session about it, and apparently Adam had no clue what the person was talking about and said “that sounds like something that Blair would make up”.

    Its been years with this stuff, akin to asking Trent about Tapeworm at this point. Need to let it go.
    Wasn’t the curveball the Opiate track?


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    Quote Originally Posted by gerbil View Post
    Wasn’t the curveball the Opiate track?


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    No. at least not that I know of, and I don’t beleive it was ever confirmed. If it was that’s not much of a “curveball” to slightly redo an old song. Wasn’t worth the hype of reading those newsletters if that was the case.

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    Can we just get one ripper like this on the record, or at least a section of one of the 69,420 minute long songs to kick ass like this?



    Doesn't feel like the same band almost at all anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krazy View Post
    Its been years with this stuff, akin to asking Trent about Tapeworm at this point. Need to let it go.
    EXACTLY! At this point, it's likely abandoned/scrapped.

    Quote Originally Posted by Krazy View Post
    Dumbest has to be Blair’s “curveball”. Love the post from a couple years ago (Fourtheye?) when some fan asked Adam during a VIP session about it, and apparently Adam had no clue what the person was talking about and said “that sounds like something that Blair would make up”.
    Sounds about right.

    Quote Originally Posted by gerbil View Post
    Wasn’t the curveball the Opiate track?
    Quote Originally Posted by Krazy View Post
    No. at least not that I know of, and I don’t beleive it was ever confirmed. If it was that’s not much of a “curveball” to slightly redo an old song. Wasn’t worth the hype of reading those newsletters if that was the case.
    That's kind of exactly why I wouldn't be surprised if that's what he was talking aobut (if it exists at all). Maybe in an effort to hype up some relatively minor Tool project he wasn't allowed to divulge yet (like re-recording one song from Opiate, for instance), he inadvertently over-hyped it to an overzealous fanbase, leading to fervent excitement and wild speculation as to that the mysterious project could be. The fans are to blame for the insane theories that ensued, though. People came up with all these ideas that it was a movie (live or otherwise), a secret album, the real Lateralus sequel that would expose 10,000 Days as a decoy album, Salival II, Maynard's jazzercise video... I honestly think a band that's been around for nearly three decades suddenly deciding to re-record a track from their first release is more than a little unusual and unexpected and I can understand why he might refer to it as a "curveball" (I do understand their desire to revisit and improve on one of their oldest songs, for the record). It's obviously not a "curveball" to the degree that a (non-live) movie or secret (non-decoy) album would be, but that's because Blair didn't think his needlessly cryptic updates would lead to such wild and lofty expectations. Then again, maybe he should have and this is all his fault because years and years of listening to him speaking in riddles, trying to be mysterious, and claiming there are puzzles to be unlocked (yet barely giving a hint where to look) have conditioned the fanbase to try to decode everything like its a giant ARG.

    Anyway, the real "curveball" was waiting five years and still not knowing what it meant!

    Quote Originally Posted by ItsChrisRoss View Post
    What was the puzzle that the four photos in 10,000 days revealed?
    I'm going to be honest and admit that I definitely spent a lot of time staring at the CD case and booklet, with and without the stereoscopic lenses trying to figure out what the fuck he was talking about. Again, it was probably A. something so simple or obvious that it's been overlooked as a possible answer, or B. "something that Blair would make up."

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonic_discord View Post
    EXACTLY! At this point, it's likely abandoned/scrapped.



    Sounds about right.





    That's kind of exactly why I wouldn't be surprised if that's what he was talking aobut (if it exists at all). Maybe in an effort to hype up some relatively minor Tool project he wasn't allowed to divulge yet (like re-recording one song from Opiate, for instance), he inadvertently over-hyped it to an overzealous fanbase, leading to fervent excitement and wild speculation as to that the mysterious project could be. The fans are to blame for the insane theories that ensued, though. People came up with all these ideas that it was a movie (live or otherwise), a secret album, the real Lateralus sequel that would expose 10,000 Days as a decoy album, Salival II, Maynard's jazzercise video... I honestly think a band that's been around for nearly three decades suddenly deciding to re-record a track from their first release is more than a little unusual and unexpected and I can understand why he might refer to it as a "curveball" (I do understand their desire to revisit and improve on one of their oldest songs, for the record). It's obviously not a "curveball" to the degree that a (non-live) movie or secret (non-decoy) album would be, but that's because Blair didn't think his needlessly cryptic updates would lead to such wild and lofty expectations. Then again, maybe he should have and this is all his fault because years and years of listening to him speaking in riddles, trying to be mysterious, and claiming there are puzzles to be unlocked (yet barely giving a hint where to look) have conditioned the fanbase to try to decode everything like its a giant ARG.

    Anyway, the real "curveball" was waiting five years and still not knowing what it meant!



    I'm going to be honest and admit that I definitely spent a lot of time staring at the CD case and booklet, with and without the stereoscopic lenses trying to figure out what the fuck he was talking about. Again, it was probably A. something so simple or obvious that it's been overlooked as a possible answer, or B. "something that Blair would make up."
    I did too, and I agree with you. But the bigger point is that I don’t think puzzle was EVER answered. I can’t believe so many people like you and I got caught up staring at that stupid booklet haha.


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    Sorry if this has already been posted somewhere, but it looks like most of their catalog is in the top 20.

    https://www.billboard.com/charts/billboard-200

    Looks like the new CD is sold out at amazon, barnes and noble, target online...
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    Do you want a review?

    Maybe? Mentions two new song titles anyway

    https://www.nme.com/reviews/album/to...noculum-review

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    Truth be told, James Maynard Keenan could have set up a webcam, sat squat in front of it, pushed an egg out from the cheeks of his arse, and said, “there you go, the fifth Tool album”, and fans would have celebrated the arrival as ‘genius’
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    I would join toolarmy for the privilege of purchasing an egg.

    if that article is true, it killed this theory:

    https://i.redd.it/xd44snuydnf31.jpg

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    What theory? That there’s ten songs?

    EDIT: my bad @TheRealNs1 , didn’t realize you were quoting a review. :P
    I guess a leak should come out soon enough.

    EDIT 2: that’s not much of a review from NME, I’ll call BS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealNs1 View Post
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    I would join toolarmy for the privilege of purchasing an egg.

    if that article is true, it killed this theory:

    https://i.redd.it/xd44snuydnf31.jpg
    So what if you just want a standard, single disc edition without and bells and whistles? Is that forthcoming? I really don't follow Tool but am interested in hearing the new album and still collect CDs.

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    Nothing announced yet, who knows.

    EDIT 2: that’s not much of a review from NME, I’ll call BS.

    That's the reddit hot take, which of course begs the question whether those 2 additional track names are even real.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RhettButler View Post
    So what if you just want a standard, single disc edition without and bells and whistles? Is that forthcoming?
    I can't imagine a world where there's no plans for a standard edition down the line. Maybe it'll come out the same time as the vinyl does (whenever that may be).

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    There was never an official non-gimmick, jewel case version of 10,000 Days released (to my knowledge). I wouldn't hold my breathe for one for FI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyson View Post
    There was never an official non-gimmick, jewel case version of 10,000 Days released (to my knowledge). I wouldn't hold my breathe for one for FI.
    That's true. But then, the 10,000 Days pack wasn't a rechargeable video screen needlessly boosting the cost of the package.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demogorgon View Post
    That's true. But then, the 10,000 Days pack wasn't a rechargeable video screen needlessly boosting the cost of the package.
    Back in the day, those extra 3D lenses were considered totally extravagant for an unlimited-edition pacakge. Then Tool sold half a million on opening week, heheh. Sadly, those days are gone, forever. There aren't pressing plants doing the 10,000 Days pack any more, nor the Vicarious DVD. What's out there in the world is all there is. I imagine the only re-press 10,000 Days will ever get is when it's finally released on vinyl (hopefully next year?).

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    @botley That makes sense. Tech like 3d glasses moves so fast today, my old man instincts kick in and i forget about how much this stuff used to cost back in the day.

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    Revolver's review is up too.

    Edit: there's a couple more song titles! And now we finally know what "CC Trip" really means.
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    Metal Injection review is up too and it contains the full tracklisting:

    1. Fear Inoculum
    2. Pneuma
    3. Litanie contre la Peur* (French for "Litany against Fear")
    4. Invincible
    5. Legion Inoculant*
    6. Descending
    7. Culling Voices
    8. Chocolate Chip Trip
    9. 7empest
    10. Mockingbeat*

    * = Digital only interludes

    Also, the extra 10 minutes on the digital download are the segues. They are straight up leaving them off the CD, which is surprising.
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    the album's final major track and its angriest, as Keenan wails
    yesssssss

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    ..."Chocolate Chip Trip"? Really? Is it this album's edition of LAMC/Die Eier von Satan/Lost Keys/etc.?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demogorgon View Post
    ..."Chocolate Chip Trip"? Really? Is it this album's edition of LAMC/Die Eier von Satan/Lost Keys/etc.?

    No, judging by the Metal Injection review, that song is Mockingbeat. Chocolate Chip Trip is the instrumental track that's basically a long Danny Carey drum solo.

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    haha so that’s what CCTrip stood for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demogorgon View Post
    ..."Chocolate Chip Trip"? Really? Is it this album's edition of LAMC/Die Eier von Satan/Lost Keys/etc.?
    I actually really really like Lost Keys and often find myself listening to the track as a stand alone when listening to that album. Not a joke. I don’t think I understood it when the album came out but there’s just something about it that I love.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sonic_discord View Post
    Metal Injection review is up too and it contains the full tracklisting:

    1. Fear Inoculum
    2. Pneuma
    3. Litanie contre la Peur* (French for "Litany against Fear")
    4. Invincible
    5. Legion Inoculant*
    6. Descending
    7. Culling Voices
    8. Chocolate Chip Trip
    9. 7empest
    10. Mockingbeat*

    * = Digital only interludes

    Also, the extra 10 minutes on the digital download are the segues. They are straight up leaving them off the CD, which is surprising.
    Hmm, isn’t CC Trip an instrumental as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsChrisRoss View Post
    I actually really really like Lost Keys and often find myself listening to the track as a stand alone when listening to that album. Not a joke. I don’t think I understood it when the album came out but there’s just something about it that I love.


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    To be honest, the music to Lost Keys is solid. If they took out the little hospital skit, i'd probably listen to it as an instrumental track all the time. It just happens to be more of a filler track, which is mainly what i was referencing. Good call though.

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