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    Quote Originally Posted by Mutilated View Post
    LOL calling Primus great and 3TEETH pretty good and a poor man's Skinny Puppy. Way off the mark on all accounts.
    PRIMUS SUCKS but they put on a hell of a live show.

    I don't think I'll be buying any 3Teeth records but yeah. They are nowhere near as adventurous as SP, but I felt the vocal + aesthetic influence was strong. Their entire sound seemed to be based around that generic, repetitive quarter-note club beat. That kills me for the majority of industrial/EBM groups, but they executed it more tastefully than I've heard a lot of others

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    I saw them last night 40 minutes outside of Atlanta. I thought it was good. My seats sucked and for the first few songs, I didn't feel any connection to what was going on. Maynard being totally in the dark made it feel even less personal with my seats. I got over it because they sounded great. I forgot how amazing the drummer is live. I'm glad to have been there. Maynard talked to a guy dressed like a banana/penguin and referred to his own outfit and being dressed up. I would've like to have seen it but he was just a shadowy figure in the distance.

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    I had a great ticket for the KC show but let the wife talk me out of going due to the weather and my other cars battery. I should have just fucking went.

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    http://www.alternativenation.net/too...-music-videos/

    Rumors of two new videos? One supposedly being the rumored Opiate video Adam mentioned being released before year's end... Last year. Although, if this is to be believed, there may well be a revenue issue prompting a delay.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alternative Press
    NSYK posted an exchange from Tool guitarist Adam Jones’ recent VIP Q&A on the band’s Reddit a couple of days ago.

    “Adam talked a lot about the process they were going through on the new album. No one asked about the progress, so I can’t tell you what the status of that was.

    What I did find very telling, however, was him talking about the progress they’ve made on producing the two music videos. It came out of him talking about using CGI vs stop motion work in Hollywood and his time as a visual effects artist. This made me believe they are very far along in their work on the album.”

    He added, “He said two music videos that they were on the hook from the record company for, complained they only get an advance on the video and would likely lose money as it would be all over Youtube and Vimeo and not get traditional revenue, and talked about different options for making money back.”

    Tool also recently released a newsletter that hints at future projects, though does not offer an update on their new album.

    “As I’m sure some of you are aware, it’s now 2016 era vulgaris (or, if your pseudo-Latin is a bit rusty, 2016 in the common era), and as such, it’s a fair bet that at least a few Tool enthusiasts are wondering what might be in store for the band in the new calendar year. Well, the Criswell in me predicts that 2016 e.v. will be an exciting year (of course, Criswell once predicted that a beam from outer space would turn all the metal in Denver into carbon nanotube rubber!). However, before anyone reads too much into this (again), I have no time tables for anything, and that’s with a sequined tuxedo. As Tool finishes up the current mini-tour in those states where McDonalds first offered sweet tea, what I do have is e-mail traffic that suggests (nay, confirms) that the band is making preparations for things to come besides a new record.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by gerbil View Post
    http://www.alternativenation.net/too...-music-videos/

    Rumors of two new videos? One supposedly being the rumored Opiate video Adam mentioned being released before year's end... Last year. Although, if this is to be believed, there may well be a revenue issue prompting a delay.
    It's all bullshit and performance anxiety. Just make your goddamn videos. Concerned about not making the money back? Work within your goddamn budget. I understand wanting to make things and telling people that you're excited about wanting to make things. Like a concert film. Or a new album. Or two new videos. But Adam Jones seems to get jammed up if he's performing decade(s) old Tool songs or making 'art' for Tool posters and merch. I understand it, it's hard to get past that anxiety, and the band doesn't owe us anything, but I see things like this and it's hard for me not to feel a bit "quit yappin' and start doin'"

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    Shot in the dark, but is there anyone here trying to sell a ticket to the Orlando show?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrselfdestruct94 View Post
    Shot in the dark, but is there anyone here trying to sell a ticket to the Orlando show?
    Im not sure how much longer they're going to be up for, but keep checking Stubhub. The prices are dropping. Think they started out at $300 this afternoon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krazy View Post
    Im not sure how much longer they're going to be up for, but keep checking Stubhub. The prices are dropping. Think they started out at $300 this afternoon.
    It goes all the way to show time. I sold mine for $59 at 6:30 as I was still 3 hours from KC. I saw front floor sections going for $90 by 7PM.

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    “Adam talked a lot about the process they were going through on the new album. No one asked about the progress, so I can’t tell you what the status of that was.

    What I did find very telling, however, was him talking about the progress they’ve made on producing the two music videos. It came out of him talking about using CGI vs stop motion work in Hollywood and his time as a visual effects artist. This made me believe they are very far along in their work on the album.”

    He added, “He said two music videos that they were on the hook from the record company for, complained they only get an advance on the video and would likely lose money as it would be all over Youtube and Vimeo and not get traditional revenue, and talked about different options for making money back.”
    LoL it's shit like this that makes me so disgustipated with Tool in the modern age. Twenty years ago when I was a hardcore fan of these guys, I never thought I'd see the day where they were so completely out of touch with reality.

    These guys are making an average of $700,000 a show, have NOTHING as far as new music is concerned in the past decade, and Adam is bitching that his music videos are going to lose money and he needs to find a way to make more? He said this to a guy that just paid $500 to talk to him, I might add.

    How the fuck does AJ think music videos get played these days? Maybe if you actually released an album every three to five years like every other band on the planet, you'd be in step with how the music industry works these days. I guess making a short film or a studio documentary of the making of this alleged new album and then releasing it as a limited edition package on your website was too much of a brainstorm for them.

    I'm so over this band, it's ridiculous. Tool haven't done anything groundbreaking or original in 20 years and this new record is most likely going to be some meandering, phoned-in joke that won't come close to justifying it's Chinese Democracy-like gestation period.



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    Quote Originally Posted by NYRexall View Post
    LoL it's shit like this that makes me so disgustipated with Tool in the modern age. Twenty years ago when I was a hardcore fan of these guys, I never thought I'd see the day where they were so completely out of touch with reality.

    These guys are making an average of $700,000 a show, have NOTHING as far as new music is concerned in the past decade, and Adam is bitching that his music videos are going to lose money and he needs to find a way to make more? He said this to a guy that just paid $500 to talk to him, I might add.

    How the fuck does AJ think music videos get played these days? Maybe if you actually released an album every three to five years like every other band on the planet, you'd be in step with how the music industry works these days. I guess making a short film or a studio documentary of the making of this alleged new album and then releasing it as a limited edition package on your website was too much of a brainstorm for them.

    I'm so over this band, it's ridiculous. Tool haven't done anything groundbreaking or original in 20 years and this new record is most likely going to be some meandering, phoned-in joke that won't come close to justifying it's Chinese Democracy-like gestation period.


    I hope they put something as groundbreaking as Viginti Tres on the next one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    I hope they put something as groundbreaking as Viginti Tres on the next one.
    Aside from Jambi, Vicarious and Rosetta Stoned, I can't even remember what the songs on 10KD sound like, it's been so long since I bothered listening to it..

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYRexall View Post
    Aside from Jambi, Vicarious and Rosetta Stoned, I can't even remember what the songs on 10KD sound like, it's been so long since I bothered listening to it..
    Same. The tool playlist on the ipod in my car is down to a pretty streamlined tracklisting, and Vicarious and Jambi are the only 10KD tracks even on it.

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    I listen to 10k Days along with the other albums all the time...

    Look, people here enjoy the music. Don't see them if you don't want to. If you feel locked into just one band, you're doing it wrong.

    People in this very thread are posting about how much they enjoyed seeing Tool live. So, I'll quote myself

    Quote Originally Posted by gerbil View Post
    This is pretty much spot on. Regardless of allllllll the rest. People don't go see Jethro Tull breathlessly anticipating their next album. They go because they like the music and they put on a killer show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by october_midnight View Post
    Same. The tool playlist on the ipod in my car is down to a pretty streamlined tracklisting, and Vicarious and Jambi are the only 10KD tracks even on it.
    Right In Two might be my favorite Tool song... always felt like the mix on the album version was a bit weird though, especially with the vocals at the end. It's great live.

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    How can you have Right in Two without Intension?

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    I was lucky enough to get a ticket to Orlando last night and found my seat five minutes before Tool took the stage. I missed Primus and 3Teeth but I honestly couldn't care less. I was there for Tool, and they didn't disappoint. No Quarter is a phenomenal cover and the place went crazy when they played The Grudge. They played extended versions of Opiate (favorite track of the night) and Stinkfist, and it added to songs that I felt were already perfect as they were. Maynard seemed more into it this time around. In 2012 there wasn't much movement from him. He came on stage, he sang, and he left the moment after they closed with Aenima. Here he came out of the shadows a bit, moved around, saw him headbang near Danny's drum set, and bowed to the audience and to the other band members before leaving the stage.

    The band was on point and ripped through a two hour set. Danny Carey did a drum solo after the intermission that was another highlight of the night. I don't think he's a human being. The way he plays is like witnessing a work of fucking art. It was cool to hear a new piece of music as well. Hearing Descending on Youtube doesn't do it justice (when does hearing anything from a live band on Youtube do the performance justice?) and it's a cool little piece of music. As I recall, Adam Jones mentioned in an interview a few months ago that it was a 'trailer' to the actual song. I'm paraphrasing. And whenever the song is released, or the new album, I look forward to hearing the complete product.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrselfdestruct94 View Post
    I was lucky enough to get a ticket to Orlando last night and found my seat five minutes before Tool took the stage.
    Did they have the side screens/drapes in Orlando? They were missing from the Charlotte show and was wondering if they dropped them from the tour for some reason, or most likely they didn't fit the venue or maybe need maintenance (something broke in transit?). Decided the other night to take advantage of low ticket prices and airfare and go to NOLA show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krazy View Post
    Did they have the side screens/drapes in Orlando? They were missing from the Charlotte show and was wondering if they dropped them from the tour for some reason, or most likely they didn't fit the venue or maybe need maintenance (something broke in transit?). Decided the other night to take advantage of low ticket prices and airfare and go to NOLA show.
    They had them. I believe they came down during Parabol/Parabola. By all means if you can afford to go, then go! I'm contemplating going to the Pensacola show tomorrow night as well.

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    Check out this utter fuckup around 1:31:30 and Maynard's reaction: https://soundcloud.com/univonc/20160...e-nc-bojangles

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Seaward View Post
    Check out this utter fuckup around 1:31:30 and Maynard's reaction: https://soundcloud.com/univonc/20160...e-nc-bojangles
    Yeah. He's pissed at himself for fucking up the tribute to the soldier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gerbil View Post
    Yeah. He's pissed at himself for fucking up the tribute to the soldier.
    But, wasn't Danny the one who got entirely off track? He says "What the fuck are we doing guys?" and people who were there said all three of them turned to look at Danny like 'wtf.' Danny fucked up and just kept going and eventually got back into the groove.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Seaward View Post
    But, wasn't Danny the one who got entirely off track? He says "What the fuck are we doing guys?" and people who were there said all three of them turned to look at Danny like 'wtf.' Danny fucked up and just kept going and eventually got back into the groove.
    that was sort of amazing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Seaward View Post
    But, wasn't Danny the one who got entirely off track? He says "What the fuck are we doing guys?" and people who were there said all three of them turned to look at Danny like 'wtf.' Danny fucked up and just kept going and eventually got back into the groove.
    You're probably totally right and I'm missing it.

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    Oh, man. That was epic. Danny fucked that up hugely. Maynard has actually become less of a prima donna about mistakes, though.
    Last edited by gerbil; 01-29-2016 at 11:33 PM.

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    I think it's sort of neat. Just makes it that much more impressive to me as a total non-musician that these guys aren't actually robots and they're actually playing these songs live. Kinda hard to explain.

    It's just unfortunate that they screwed up that specific song on that specific night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tasisity View Post
    Sorry to double-post but I also wanted to add:

    The house speakers died during the beginning of Danny's solo, but you could still hear him pounding away through the entire arena. It almost added for the experience. I admit that I shot a few dirty looks at the sound crew during the ordeal, but I also couldn't help but laugh in familiarity. Watching the staff scramble to fix things and Danny persevering through it all was beyond entertaining.

    That on top of Les & Maynard both rambling during both of their sets with positive energy, it all made for a very exciting & humbling experience
    Just a point of semantics - the speakers didn't die. Those things are goddamn tough, and if they'd died, the show would have been over. Really hard to say what it might have been just from listening to the recording - there aren't a whole lot of points of failure that could take out the entire system and be fixed in a matter of only a minute. But the entire crowd should be thanking their asses that the band hired a top notch sound crew - plenty of other shows would have been finished for the night after that happened. These guys located, diagnosed, and fixed the problem in literally about sixty seconds and all while the artist and crowd are making noise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Seaward View Post
    I think it's sort of neat. Just makes it that much more impressive to me as a total non-musician that these guys aren't actually robots and they're actually playing these songs live. Kinda hard to explain.

    It's just unfortunate that they screwed up that specific song on that specific night.
    I've seen them fuck up Rosetta Stoned and it's usually the whole band skipping a middle section.

    Also, I hope a decent audio recording comes out of the show so someone can do a proper IEM/crowd matrix.

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    Anyone know what the most recent cover Tool has debuted live? I'm hard-pressed to think of one since like fucking You Lied or Demon Cleaner era.

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    That IEM recording of the Charlotte show is awesome! I was at that show. First time seeing Tool and it was a great show. I think the guy who made that recording has done shows in the past. There is an IEM of the last NIN show in Charlotte and the last Muse show in Charlotte too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Seaward View Post
    Anyone know what the most recent cover Tool has debuted live? I'm hard-pressed to think of one since like fucking You Lied or Demon Cleaner era.
    "Commando." Lateralus tour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Seaward View Post
    Anyone know what the most recent cover Tool has debuted live? I'm hard-pressed to think of one since like fucking You Lied
    or Demon Cleaner era.
    "You Lied" and "Orion" in 2011.
    "Some Days It's Dark" and "Holiday in Cambodia" in 2007.

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