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As far as my tastes go, but I do love Tool and they are one of my favorite bands.
House Always Wins
Puscifer and A Perfect Circle > Tool
As far as my tastes go, but I do love Tool and they are one of my favorite bands.
FATUM NOS IUNGET
TOOL WINTER TOUR DATES
Now that they are official, here are some TOOL WINTER TOUR DATES:
Jan 14 - Reno, NV @ Reno Event Center - ON SALE NOW (DEC 16)
Jan 15 - Las Vegas, NV @ Mandalay Bay Center
Jan 17 - Tucson, AZ @ Convention Center Arena - ON SALE NOW
Jan 18 - Albuquerque, NM @ Tingley Coliseum - ON SALE NOW
Jan 20 - Dallas, TX @ Verizon Theatre - ON SALE NOW
Jan 21 - TBA
Jan 24 - Toledo, OH @ Huntington Center - ON SALE NOW
Jan 25 - Toronto, ON @ Air Canada Centre - ON SALE NOW
Jan 26 - London, ON @ John LaBatt Centre - ON SALE NOW
Jan 28 - Boston, MA @ TD Bank North Center - ON SALE NOW
Jan 29 - Camden, NJ @ Susquehanna Bank Center
Jan 31 - Uncasville, CT @ Mohegan Sun Casino Arena
Feb 1 - East Rutherford, NJ @ Izod Center
Feb 3 - TBA
Feb 4 - Charlotte, NC @ Bojangles Coliseum
Feb 6 - Ft. Lauderdale, FL @ Bank Atlantic Center
Feb 7 - Orlando, FL @ UCF Arena
Feb 8 - Atlanta, GA @ Gwinnett Center Arena - ON SALE NOW
House Always Wins
They always hit up Charlotte, shame I've not seen them ever. Maybe I should invest to go this time!
God is an American
Got a floor ticket for Toronto at reasonable price (apparently it's "reserved seating" though? Bizarre).
Stubby Member
Boston show! yeah
Active Member
Last time I saw 'em - back in 01 or 02 - it was reserved seating at an arena. Folding chairs put out on the floor. So pay attention to whatever your ticket says - it's probably accurate.Originally Posted by botley
Only By Night
Haven't seen them in out 5 years so this is exciting. Going to the NJ, East Rutherford! Tickets bought!
Active Member
meh....im not giving this shithead any more of my $ for now. I'm not going to spend close to $100 sight unseen after the BS he pulled with the APC tour this summer ( was suspicious about that too and luckily didnt buy tix). I want to see a setlist and see how long theyre on stage, then ill try and get a ticket somehow if it looks good. reeks of yet another moneygrab. and put out the new album already.
yes, i'm bitter. i've said it before: it's really hard to get behind anything Maynard does nowadays, esp. as compared to Trent and how much better he treats his fans.
Last edited by bobbie solo; 12-17-2011 at 08:12 PM.
Active Member
I just find it hard to see how Maynard can convincingly transition from one band (and state of mind) to the next. His creativity seems to be focused on Puscifer right now: this is obvious from the live shows. At the APC show I saw this summer he couldn't have sounded less interested. So I do worry about why Tool are suddenly touring right now. It's not like they need to drum up interest in a new album or anything: their audience is there, patiently waiting. So it's got to be money. OK, they need money like anyone else. But I'd rather they tour behind a new album, or at least do something a little different (a one-album a night tour or somesuch).
i'm too thin
Maybe you should boycott Puscifer and APC then. Tool is Adam's band, and always has been.
Active Member
Adam is an arrogant prick with a big mouth. Tool is a collective, always has been. That's the beauty of it.
i'm too thin
From the Dec Newsletter:
Fair enough… but, consider this: During a month of touring, ALL FOUR BAND MEMBERS WILL BE TOGETHER, with lots of down time and great big stages containing their equipment, as well as state-of-the-art sound systems (The geniuses!). Not to mention crack security personnel. During the sound checks, once they’ve dialed in the mix for a couple of the songs on the set list for that evening, there should be a sufficient amount of time left to work on NEW MUSIC (that is - music for the next record). So, it’s a win-win situation – at least that’s how I see it…
So maybe that's the reason for the tour? They need to get their juices flowing?
Active Member
im not trying to start a fight, but youre not seriously gonna tell me that you think anything but Maynard is the reason there's been no new material and extremely sporadic touring since the 10,000 Days touring cycle ended, are you? Maynard's wine & Puscifer have held everything up for years now...APC is just the newest setback.
Throbbing Member
I'm pretty certain it's because the members of Tool all absolutely hate each other.
i'm too thin
I'm not sure what makes you think that... Ever entertain the idea that Maynard is just bored of waiting for the other guys and wants to, I dunno, maybe create something with every breath?
I dunno if I'd be inclined to disagree with that either.
bastard from blue city
lol. okay then.
God is an American
Dudes in this thread: I don't remember paying extra to attend the whine-tasting. Enjoy the music or else get out.
Active Member
Can't you see the wait for this new album is TEARING US APART?!
Throbbing Member
It's all part of the Tool Puzzle.
Active Member
I'm still convinced that piece of shit is a decoy album, and the real album, 10,001 Days, is going to come out in 2012 (just in time for the prophesied* ascension) and it will be glorious.
*=And by prophesied, I mean by the only prophet that matters: Maynard James Keenan in his song "Forty Six & 2." All hail.
Throbbing Member
See, people might scoff at that and think it's a joke, but see if you play Vicarious, Wings For Marie Part 1 and the beginning of Viginti Tres at the same time? You hear something that sounds uncannily like the theme tune for Gilligan's Island.
Active Member
It's Green Acres, you son of a bitch!
Hairy Member
I hate buying tickets to anything nowadays because of the bullshit that happens. Like today for instance, I was on Ticketmaster exactly at 11:00 EST when tickets went on sale for the Feb. 1st Izod Center show. I am planning on going with a friend, so I searched for two tickets, best available, immediately at 11. The seating chart for this show was for the "theater" set up of Izod Center which basically puts the stage in the middle of the floor and cuts the arena in half with curtains to make it a more intimate feel. Keeping that in mind, I searched for two, best available, and came up with two in Section 206 in one of the last rows. I felt like I wanted something a little better so I gave them up and searched again for two. Got the sorry nothing is available message. Searched at least 5 more times for a pair of best availables and nothing. Getting mad now. Then I said fuck well I guess I'll try for a single and go by myself and apologize to my friend about my failure to get 2. I searched and got a ticket in Section 128 Row 14. Sounds good, looks good (with the "theater" setup advertised this would be a pretty good seat), I bought it ($84 after all fees). So I couldn't just leave it at that, like I usually always do in situations like this I started searching again for pairs. Then all of a sudden pairs are coming up again, this is about 30-40 minutes after the onsale time. Good pairs. WTF? So I got a pair that came up in Section 101 row 15, so I bought them figuring that they are pretty good seats, keeping in mind the advertised "theater" setup and now at least my friend can come. Now I have an extra, whatever, not the end of the world and it's not that far from the pair I bought so maybe I can find someone to come with or sell it. Then for shits and giggles I keep searching. Now there are really good pairs coming up, on floor sections, way better then what I got before. I hate when this shit happens. Then a while later there are pairs coming up in sections that are grayed out and supposed to be sectioned off for the "theater" setup. Then I realize that the seating chart no longer shows Theater and it just has the drop down menu and says Select A Seating Chart. Looking around it seems that they decided to just sell more tickets and make more money by making it a traditional "End Stage" setup after all. And now after buying 3 tickets in what were supposed to be pretty good sections, now there are way better seats popping up all over the place and my pretty good seats are now all the way across the whole floor on the other side of the arena. FFFFUUUUUUUUUU .
[/end Ticketmaster rant/first world problems of the day] oh well at least I'll be in the building and the visuals will probably be kick-ass even from across the arena. I just think it's messed up that they did that, but then again it's all about the money.
Hairy Member
a tool winter tour? jesus... maynard has become a machine. i wonder where the TBA show will be..?
houston...?
Stubby Member
I'm actually convinced that it's not Maynard that treats his fans like shit, but that it's Maynard fans that treat him like shit.
With Tool, people are pissed when they don't have variety and a lot of the old songs get neglected. With APC, people bitch at the idea of playing all of their songs on different nights so no song gets left out. For new material, they bitch when a band of his doesn't put something out, but anytime he does put something out they bitch that they don't like it. They bitch when one of his bands has downtime, and they bitch when they go on tour. They bitch when he makes money, and they bitch when he doesn't. They bitch when his music sounds too much like it did back in the day, and they bitch when it sounds too different. His fans bitch when his other fans act like total douchebags, and they bitch when Maynard acts like his fans are total douchebags. They bitch when his stage presence is boring, and they bitch when he tries to liven up his act.
That's how I see it.
FATUM NOS IUNGET
That's pretty much it in my opinion as well. I always say that I love Tool, but I'm fuckin' embarrassed to be a Tool fan. Not because of the band, but because never have I seen such moaning from one group's fanbase, holy shit.
Gilded Member
I've always seen his behavior as a reaction to the way their fans act. They don't make the music they do because they are gods, and I'm sure it's simultaneously embarrassing and discouraging to them when their fans act as if the band are gods. I've never been personally embarrassed to be a Tool fan because I don't act in the way that a lot do. That would be like saying I'm embarrassed to be a beer drinker because most people who drink beer act like fools. I appreciate it for what I enjoy about it, and I just know that the band has to recognize that there are intelligent, "normal" fans that do not act in an absurd way about everything they ever do.
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MAYNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRDDDDDDDDDDD DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD!!!!!!
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTTT TT
...I'm sorry. What were you guys talking about?
Mars And Daemons
Damn, I see you all here but (again) damn! I have never seen Tool live.
They never played in my country and the closest they got was in 2007 in Hungary. And (for the third time) damn, I was only 17, one year short from traveling alone to another country. I would have. So stop bitching.
Gilded Member
Oh hey, you're as old as my younger sister. I've yet to get her into Tool, but I've gotten her away from her pop dominated taste in music. I didn't mean to come off as bitching (if I did). I'm fucking grateful I've been able to see them the three times that I have. Each were in a completely different type of venue and each were amazing in their on way. The problem is that for the last two ventures on the road (and probably this coming one) they have barely changed anything up to make it worth paying the high ticket prices to go to see them. I mean, I would love to see Tool live all the time, but at nearly $70 a show, I just can't justify it unless it's going to be something fresh. Granted, for you it's different, and I'm sorry you haven't been able to catch them live, but you at least see where we are coming from, right?Damn, I see you all here but (again) damn! I have never seen Tool live.
They never played in my country and the closest they got was in 2007 in Hungary. And (for the third time) damn, I was only 17, one year short from traveling alone to another country. I would have. So stop bitching.
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