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    every song is at least 10 minutes long? get the fuck outta here with that.

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    Taking interludes/song transitions into account, that's really not that much different from Lateralus or 10K Days yeah? Most of those songs are close to the 10 minute mark when combined, really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kel View Post
    every song is at least 10 minutes long? get the fuck outta here with that.
    The 10 minutes info apparently comes directly from Tool, via the music clinics. For example, https://consequenceofsound.net/2018/...-clinic-event/ .

    Quote Originally Posted by Prettybrokenspiral View Post
    And while we're at it, so is Maynard James Keenan. Remember last year when he was accused of raping women at his shows and then made some callous, half-assed statement claiming his innocence and wreaking of arrogance? A class act, that guy..

    Fuck him and his new Tool album that comes out in 2026. And anything else he does, for that matter..
    While I should know better than to respond about this, have you read the posts that discuss how the twitter account of the anonymous poster was also associated with (same email I believe, though it's been some time, I don't recall exactly) another twitter account that accused Trent hours later? See https://www.theprp.com/2018/06/29/ne...may-be-a-hoax/ and https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news...xperience.html . Just thought I would mention this in case you did not know about that and your hostility is all based on that one anonymous allegation.
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    I know the feelings running through the Tool fandom are strong but Jesus Christ enough with this relentless negativity. Itís nowhere near any kind of discussion at this point. Itís just bashing and trolling.


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    Quote Originally Posted by gerbil View Post
    I know the feelings running through the Tool fandom are strong but Jesus Christ enough with this relentless negativity. It’s nowhere near any kind of discussion at this point. It’s just bashing and trolling.
    I just found Tool in 2018. I LOVE it!!! I am so excited that I will get to hear a new album and get to discuss it new with other fans (despite knowing there will be a fair amount of hating on it--as with fans for any new release). Tool has the most beautiful music written by a band I have ever listened to in my life*---meaning of life/life changing stuff! (Yes, I know that sounds like the pretentious Tool fans that people like to hate -- but I believe it to be true, for me). However, it does once in a while become draining emotionally to listen to meaning-of-life music constantly, so mixing in a little Puscifer (oh is Indigo Children a great song to move to!) or APC (yes, even the new APC) is a good balance. I guess I am lucky to not be bogged down by years of waiting or other issues that people have had (lots of frustration on Tool related boards). So, really, we should be celebrating like that one meme I found...what did it say...something like I am so glad to have been alive at the same time when Tool was making music!

    *Disclaimer: For a band with music written by more than 1 (or 2) members. This is how I can say Tool is my fav band, yet Trent/NIN is still my fav overall (Trent being the sole member of NIN, up until Atticus). -.-

    P.S. Yes, I tend to get a bit obsessive when I get into something. Thanks in advance for your understanding and being nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinspots View Post
    The 10 minutes info apparently comes directly from Tool, via the music clinics. For example, https://consequenceofsound.net/2018/...-clinic-event/ .



    While I should know better than to respond about this, have you read the posts that discuss how the twitter account of the anonymous poster was also associated with (same email I believe, though it's been some time, I don't recall exactly) another twitter account that accused Trent hours later? Just thought I would mention this in case you did not know about that and your hostility is all based on that one anonymous allegation.
    Whether the accusation was true or bullshit, it does not negate the fact MJK has always been known as a manwhore. Its common knowledge this guy used to run through groupies in the 90s at Anthony Kiedis/Dave Navarro levels. That doesn't make him a rapist, but it does make him a scumbag

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helpmeiaminhell View Post
    Whether the accusation was true or bullshit, it does not negate the fact MJK has always been known as a manwhore. Its common knowledge this guy used to run through groupies in the 90s at Anthony Kiedis/Dave Navarro levels. That doesn't make him a rapist, but it does make him a scumbag
    Lmao. No


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    Quote Originally Posted by Helpmeiaminhell View Post
    As for the Mike Patton circle jerk. Lest we forget, those open minded Tool fans were the same fans who made fools of themselves booing Mikes bands Tomahawk AND Fantomas off the stage every night back in the day when Mike opened for them. Considering MJK constantly invites Patton bands to tour with him, he may be leading the Mike Patton circle jerk
    I laughed super hard at this because I'm old enough to remember those concerts and these statements are 100% accurate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gerbil View Post
    I know the feelings running through the Tool fandom are strong but Jesus Christ enough with this relentless negativity. It’s nowhere near any kind of discussion at this point. It’s just bashing and trolling.
    Don't feed the trolls, unless you want them to keep trolling.

    (But yeah, Maynard and his groupie habit? Though that time has probably passed, that was definitely a very well known, factual thing.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leviathant View Post
    Don't feed the trolls, unless you want them to keep trolling.

    (But yeah, Maynard and his groupie habit? Though that time has probably passed, that was definitely a very well known, factual thing.)
    Oh, yeah, I remember it well. But it was pretty par for the course those days and never really a secret. And while my immature, holier than thou self tried to reconcile it with my personal belief structure I feel like youíd have to be super steeped in Incel culture anymore to deride a 25-40-something guy for having sex with a lot of women.

    EDIT: Unless, obviously, if he were actually raping women (or men). Sexual assault is serious but requires some amount of evidence. Every account of his man-whoring noted that it was absolutely clear to the people involved what was going on.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Helpmeiaminhell View Post
    Whether the accusation was true or bullshit, it does not negate the fact MJK has always been known as a manwhore. Its common knowledge this guy used to run through groupies in the 90s at Anthony Kiedis/Dave Navarro levels. That doesn't make him a rapist, but it does make him a scumbag
    banging people that want to be banged = scumbag. got it.

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    Yeah, great timing of posting about that scumbag Tren.... err, MJK who was getting trolled on Twitter by some horseshit fake account.

    Im bringing this up for a couple reasons. One is Maynard actually (eventually) replied about it. The fuck you want him to do, get OJ’s legal team together (I think most of them are dead?) and spend millions of dollars over some twitter account?

    As for Trent not replying, that’s cool and good for him. It didn’t receive the press that Maynard’s accusation got. I’d guess both of those dudes decided to indulge in some Motley Crue-like debauchery without wanting the attention of it back when they were younger and single-ish.

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    doesnt waste his time with that nonsense.
    Doing what you love doing is never a waste of time.

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    Glad we have an informant of 80’s/90’s rock stars sexual tendencies on here. :eye roll:


    As long as it’s legal/consentual and not spreading diseases, I really don’t care who’s fucking who. Not gonna judge, not sure what a single, 20’s (heterosexual BTW) me on the road would be up to back in the day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krazy View Post
    Glad we have an informant of 80ís/90ís rock stars sexual tendencies on here. :eye roll:


    As long as itís legal/consentual and not spreading diseases, I really donít care whoís fucking who. Not gonna judge, not sure what a single, 20ís (heterosexual BTW) me on the road would be up to back in the day.
    I mean, Iím not gonna lie, I expect that stuff from artists not because theyíre men, young, or perverse or anything. I expect it from artistsómale and femaleóbecause a lot of them are wildly passionate and full of energy. And even the quiet, reserved ones, well... Still waters run deep and all that.


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    Alright folks, bring it back on track. Don't make me lock this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leviathant View Post
    Alright folks, bring it back on track. Don't make me lock this thread.
    10/4, good buddy.

    I think Iíve done a pretty good job of managing my expectations for this. I just want it to be what it is.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Leviathant View Post
    Alright folks, bring it back on track. Don't make me lock this thread.
    Think for yourself. Question authority.



    Sorry I had to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealNs1 View Post
    Think for yourself. Question authority.



    Sorry I had to.
    Yeah, I guess I have to, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leviathant View Post
    Yeah, I guess I have to, too.
    Thread open. Letís all play nice and remember opinions are like....

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    can we all take a moment and have a group hug?


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    Quote Originally Posted by NotoriousTIMP View Post
    can we all take a moment and have a group hug?

    No. Get back on topic please. Tool. Maynard. New 10 minute songs. Go.


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    Is the new Tool album going to be released digitally?

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    I just think the fact that it has been like 12 years since an album, at first nostalgia will cloud our judgement and it will hopefully age like fine wine. I never had a chance to see em till 2016 and can't wait for an actual tour other than a few one offs. I just wish I could hear all the old stuff live that I've missed. I fully except the new album tour to be mainly only new stuff witch is fucking great but does leave the newer fans wanting old popular stuff, ya know kinda like The people wanting closer and the hand that feeds at a NIN show,lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theburningreptile View Post
    Is the new Tool album going to be released digitally?
    Maynard has said the whole catalog will be available digitally at some point but indecisiveness and dysfunction is why it's not yet. I assume the same will go for new music - though a new album could be the fire they need under their collective ass to make a move in that department.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toadflax View Post
    Maynard has said the whole catalog will be available digitally at some point but indecisiveness and dysfunction is why it's not yet. I assume the same will go for new music - though a new album could be the fire they need under their collective ass to make a move in that department.
    Not offering their music digitally seems like a huge missed opportunity for revenue...and coming from a band that tours non-stop to make money makes it seem even more weird.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theburningreptile View Post
    Is the new Tool album going to be released digitally?
    I am unaware if they have fulfilled their previous outdated/antiquated contract (which was the reason for their catalog's absence on streaming platforms, if I remember correctly), but let's hope that the announcement of their new album coincides with the news that their entire back catalog (in addition to the new album) is making its way to iTunes & Spotify thanks to a newly updated contract that allows them to join the rest of us in the 21st century.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NotoriousTIMP View Post
    Not offering their music digitally seems like a huge missed opportunity for revenue...and coming from a band that tours non-stop to make money makes it seem even more weird.
    Agreed. It seems (some or all of) the band is trying to retain the sanctity of the album, i.e. forcing/encouraging people to actually listen to a physical thing from beginning to end, but Maynard's made it clear his stance is to make it available in as many ways as possible and let people choose what to do with it.

    We live in an age where it takes like two seconds to download/rip digital tracks and add them to your phone/device, anyway, so I agree it's pretty silly to keep their music off the digital market if the above is their only reason for doing so.
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    I think we should worry about that first part... first: “will the new Tool album be released?”

    Heh.

    Let’s question digitally/tye-dyed vinal/available only through your drug dealer while buying acid/etc. when the time comes.

    :P

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    Here’s an idea for Tool: once the new album drops, relaease ALL your previous material digitally. Everything at once.

    Seems like Ike a good idea. Or release all previous material digitally once they set a release date. No?...

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